How do the new L800 SDA compare to the Original Legend SDA-SRS 1.2TL?
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Ahh. I thought it was lifted (i.e., cut and pasted) from the S+V peas peace piece?
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I read it from my mag.
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Gotcha
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got you.
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I feel like an alcoholic asking the people at the bar to talk me out of that next drink! 😂They are worth the drive for any SDA fan, if for nothing more than to hear them.
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Does anyone else find their system images differently (worse) during the day then at night in the dark?
I most certainly do. I recommend the Audioprism Quietline MKIII audio filters. They are no longer in production (I believe), but you can get them used. I got mine that way thanks to a fellow Polkie.
They made a substantial differnce in my system (especially during the day, but also at night. Ray did a write up on them here: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/147134/studies-on-residential-power-line-noise-part-11-noise-harvester-and-quietline/p1
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Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
"I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion."![:\](https://forum.polkaudio.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....
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Does anyone else find their system images differently (worse) during the day then at night in the dark?
I most certainly do. I recommend the Audioprism Quietline MKIII audio filters. They are no longer in production (I believe), but you can get them used. I got mine that way thanks to a fellow Polkie.
They made a substantial differnce in my system (especially during the day, but also at night. Ray did a write up on them here: https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/147134/studies-on-residential-power-line-noise-part-11-noise-harvester-and-quietline/p1
I'm thinking you should get on Verb's alpha meter list and do some line measurements with your quietlines. I also have 4 quietlines and 5 noiseharvestors and I'd be interested in seeing if other members get the same alpha meter readings as I do with these devices. -
I thought of posting this in Skip's L800 thread but ........
10 most innovative home technologies and gadgets of 2019 (10. Polk Legend L800)
The link in No 10 take you to Polk website.
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/10-innovative-home-technologies-gadgets-of-2019
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DarqueKnight wrote: »motorstereo wrote: »L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
If Polk fails to improve upon the vintage SDA in EVERY WAY it would be a sad day for their design team. The Legend should easily SMOKE 30+ year old parts & materials...it shouldn't even be close!
But, as motorstereo's post clearly indicated, he wasn't talking about comparing the L800 to stock vintage SDAs. He (and I) were talking about comparing the L800 to vintage SDAs with significant parts upgrades. Modded SDAs easily SMOKE stock SDAs, therefore the L800 doing so is a given.
We like our SDA's a good bit, but maybe being a lot less of a fanboy of them, than some in the forum.
I simply do not see the low cost components in the vintage era Polks to be the best thing ever as some do.
I'm not saying they were crap or bad at all, but the woofers and tweeters used by polk back then, and even the replacement "upgraded" ones are also not truly "great" either.
They were fairly standard low cost run of the mill drivers, that while performing well for sure, could easily be bettered, by even relatively low cost DIY drivers today and even years ago.
You are still using the stock woofers in yours, so your upgrades basically consist of new tweeters.
(yes I realize you have done more, but the basic drivers are by far the biggest contributors to the sound)
Are you claiming, you believe the 198 tweeters and the Polk Mid-woofers are the greatest speaker components ever conceived??
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Stop trying to stir the pot.
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DarqueKnight wrote: »motorstereo wrote: »L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
If Polk fails to improve upon the vintage SDA in EVERY WAY it would be a sad day for their design team. The Legend should easily SMOKE 30+ year old parts & materials...it shouldn't even be close!
But, as motorstereo's post clearly indicated, he wasn't talking about comparing the L800 to stock vintage SDAs. He (and I) were talking about comparing the L800 to vintage SDAs with significant parts upgrades. Modded SDAs easily SMOKE stock SDAs, therefore the L800 doing so is a given.
We like our SDA's a good bit, but maybe being a lot less of a fanboy of them, than some in the forum.
I simply do not see the low cost components in the vintage era Polks to be the best thing ever as some do.
I'm not saying they were crap or bad at all, but the woofers and tweeters used by polk back then, and even the replacement "upgraded" ones are also not truly "great" either.
They were fairly standard low cost run of the mill drivers, that while performing well for sure, could easily be bettered, by even relatively low cost DIY drivers today and even years ago.
You are still using the stock woofers in yours, so your upgrades basically consist of new tweeters.
(yes I realize you have done more, but the basic drivers are by far the biggest contributors to the sound)
Are you claiming, you believe the 198 tweeters and the Polk Mid-woofers are the greatest speaker components ever conceived??
Trolling yet again.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I'm not saying they were crap or bad at all, but the woofers and tweeters used by polk back then, and even the replacement "upgraded" ones are also not truly "great" either.
They were fairly standard low cost run of the mill drivers, that while performing well for sure, could easily be bettered, by even relatively low cost DIY drivers today and even years ago.
Possibly the most ignorant statement I've ever read about vintage Polks.
Have you ever even looked at the T/S parameters for the MW65** woofers?Home Theater/2 Channel:
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westmassguy wrote: »
I'm not saying they were crap or bad at all, but the woofers and tweeters used by polk back then, and even the replacement "upgraded" ones are also not truly "great" either.
They were fairly standard low cost run of the mill drivers, that while performing well for sure, could easily be bettered, by even relatively low cost DIY drivers today and even years ago.
Possibly the most ignorant statement I've ever read about vintage Polks.
Have you ever even looked at the T/S parameters for the MW65** woofers?
Yes I have seen the T/S parameters. (remember we do DIY speakers and are QUITE familiar with this stuff)
They still seem quite ordinary. I am not sure what you feel is unusually impressive about them, care to explain?
Again not to ruffle any feathers, but they are not "Bad" really, but again fairly ordinary.
What aspect of them are you referencing exactly?
If they were truly that world class and impressive, why is this a secret outside our forum?
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Stop trying to stir the pot.
No not really. Try again. I have yet to see anyone give an explanation to what I am asking.
Saying I am stirring the "pot", gives zero insight into why this particular driver is out of the ordinary.
I have the Polk mid-woofers in several speakers we have owned, really like them, but simply never felt they were unusually good or something special overall.
When someone proclaims they have found nothing to beat a 30 year old Polk speaker, and nothing can improve on it, to you does that sound believable or a good bit of hyperbole?
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I would also like to hear that set up.
I see where Classe is following other Mfg's lead with Vu Meters! I like it, but I don't have Classe kinda Cash
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DarqueKnight wrote: »motorstereo wrote: »L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
If Polk fails to improve upon the vintage SDA in EVERY WAY it would be a sad day for their design team. The Legend should easily SMOKE 30+ year old parts & materials...it shouldn't even be close!
But, as motorstereo's post clearly indicated, he wasn't talking about comparing the L800 to stock vintage SDAs. He (and I) were talking about comparing the L800 to vintage SDAs with significant parts upgrades. Modded SDAs easily SMOKE stock SDAs, therefore the L800 doing so is a given.
We like our SDA's a good bit, but maybe being a lot less of a fanboy of them, than some in the forum.
I simply do not see the low cost components in the vintage era Polks to be the best thing ever as some do.
I'm not saying they were crap or bad at all, but the woofers and tweeters used by polk back then, and even the replacement "upgraded" ones are also not truly "great" either.
They were fairly standard low cost run of the mill drivers, that while performing well for sure, could easily be bettered, by even relatively low cost DIY drivers today and even years ago.
You are still using the stock woofers in yours, so your upgrades basically consist of new tweeters.
(yes I realize you have done more, but the basic drivers are by far the biggest contributors to the sound)
Are you claiming, you believe the 198 tweeters and the Polk Mid-woofers are the greatest speaker components ever conceived??
Trolling yet again.
No, because I am not bashing anything, nor anyone, but simply wondering what in particular you guys feel makes them so special.
Again they were fairly low cost, that is a fact.
The replacement cost Polk MW woofers, are VERY marked up price wise. -
I noted with interest that Classe is now manufactured in Japan and wonder if SU is using the same facilities that build the Marantz Reference gear?Political Correctness'.........defined
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The Classe monoblocks driving the Magicos at Axpona earlier this year sounded fantastic. Visceral bass.
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Again not to ruffle any feathers, but they are not "Bad" really, but again fairly ordinary.
Ruffling feathers is all you do. You and your other half throw bombs, stir the pot, then wait for the fireworks.
I'm done.
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The Classe monoblocks driving the Magicos at Axpona earlier this year sounded fantastic. Visceral bass.
I like the sound of that. If I ever own a fishing boat, that's what I'm going to call it. Talk about 2-way meaning!So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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Of all the strong opinions I read on here it's interesting which ones get jumped on and who's doing the jumping.
Some of you **** better get a listening party going before you burn down the forum arguing about which is better. Besides its more fun in person, and maybe face to face you **** would show a little respect. You all suck in your own way, you're all great in your own way. Don't like it, don't respond.
Please stop cluttering up interesting threads with this useless ****. Take your pissing contests somehwere else. It's old.Up
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No, because I am not bashing anything, nor anyone, but simply wondering what in particular you guys feel makes them so special.
Again they were fairly low cost, that is a fact.
The replacement cost Polk MW woofers, are VERY marked up price wise.
Why don't you save us all some grief and every time you feel like posting a comment here just say "I don't like Polk speakers. Never have and never will"
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Thanks for the link. I noted the reviewer referred to the L100’s as a value. Nice that they Demo’d the L800’s with the L100’s.
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From the article...
SDA works best when the listener is seated on axis. Move too much to the left or right of the sweet spot, and the holographic effect collapses. Also, if you sit too far back, directly behind the sweet spot, the soundstage expands and diffuses until it no longer makes sense.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Sounds like L800 is geared for a single listener, especially if the soundstage doesn’t make sense if you aren’t in the sweet spot.Post edited by BlueFox onLumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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