How do the new L800 SDA compare to the Original Legend SDA-SRS 1.2TL?

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,189
    Never thought I'd see the day when Polk, Marantz, and Classe were the same company and that new SDA speakers would be driven by Japan made Marantz and Classe gear at shows. :)
    1. Polk L800 + L900, L400, LSiM-703 x4; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz AV8805A processor; Parasound A31; Outlaw 7000X; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Director 4.7; MIT S2 cables
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    edited December 2019
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Sounds like L800 is geared for a single listener, especially if the soundstage doesn’t make sense if you aren’t in the sweet spot.

    Doesn't that describe every proper audiophile system? :D


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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,687
    No.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Sounds like L800 is geared for a single listener, especially if the soundstage doesn’t make sense if you aren’t in the sweet spot.

    Doesn't that describe every proper audiophile system? :D


    I think a dialed in system (with the right speakers) has a much wider sweet spot. Obviously it sounds”best” in the middle, but mine does not collapse or get off kilter 3-4ft either direction of the sweet spot.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    That sounds about right I think...Definitely best in the middle, and where any serious listening takes place. I enjoy the sound from anywhere, but imaging seems limited to about a 4' sphere around the sweet spot. Outside that there's clearly stereo separation, but not imaging. Sound about right? Or my **** all sucks and I need to change everything? Lulz.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    But I have not owned SDA’s or even heard them so I can’t attest to their sweet spot.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    Me neither, it's a Polkie badge I need... In the end if it sounds good to me good 'nuf. Then I'll reposition the speakers another hundred times until it's good 'nuf again.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,820
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Am I wrong in thinking a bit of toe-in might be in order for these?

    Yes, you are wrong.
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  • Inspector 24
    Inspector 24 Posts: 1,308
    I’ll put that on the list of things to try if I ever get to.
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,602
    westmassguy wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »

    Again not to ruffle any feathers, but they are not "Bad" really, but again fairly ordinary.

    Ruffling feathers is all you do. You and your other half throw bombs, stir the pot, then wait for the fireworks.
    I'm done.

    Okay uh so you have no reply basically?

    You mentioned T/S parameters and I was expecting some discussion to ensue about what aspects you found superior or unique, but you have nothing other than basically calling ME a troll?
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,602
    edited December 2019
    audioluvr wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »
    No, because I am not bashing anything, nor anyone, but simply wondering what in particular you guys feel makes them so special.

    Again they were fairly low cost, that is a fact.
    The replacement cost Polk MW woofers, are VERY marked up price wise.

    Why don't you save us all some grief and every time you feel like posting a comment here just say "I don't like Polk speakers. Never have and never will"

    Why beat around the bush???

    Well I guess that would be true, except you are totally off base and just trolling. Look at the list of speakers we own. Jesus, that makes your comment come off as total BS rite?

    I was questioning the claims that the older SDAs were impossible to improve on.

    So FANBOY type comments are fine, but someone daring to question something that we ALSO OWN, are not allowed??

    We have owned over a dozen various Polk models over the years, so uh yeah I "Hate them".....

    Do you have a comment that will add to what I asked, or are you just looking to bash and troll like the "other guys" that are never able to discuss anything they do not agree with?

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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,602
    Inspector 24 wrote: »
    Of all the strong opinions I read on here it's interesting which ones get jumped on and who's doing the jumping.

    Some of you **** better get a listening party going before you burn down the forum arguing about which is better. Besides its more fun in person, and maybe face to face you **** would show a little respect. You all suck in your own way, you're all great in your own way. Don't like it, don't respond.

    Please stop cluttering up interesting threads with this useless ****. Take your pissing contests somehwere else. It's old.

    You are dealing with several very thin skinned guys, that believe their Opinion is some factual thing, and no one can dare disagree, unless it is one of their circle of buddies, then they respectfully disagree with them.

    If it is someone outside their circle of buddies, all they are able to do is say the person is a troll, or looking to stir the pot.

    Most of that I believe derives from a lack of truly believing what they say is true, and having no factual data or explanations to back up most of what they argue.

    So they resort to name calling.
    Obviously any other forum, most of them would be banned by now for constant name calling and bickering, but only on here are they able to thrive.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,640
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Stop trying to stir the pot.
    westmassguy wrote: »

    Ruffling feathers is all you do. You and your other half throw bombs, stir the pot, then wait for the fireworks.
    I'm done.
    audioluvr wrote: »

    Why don't you save us all some grief and every time you feel like posting a comment here just say "I don't like Polk speakers. Never have and never will"

    Why beat around the bush???
    F1nut wrote: »
    Trolling yet again.

    Be very patient.

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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,602
    joecoulson wrote: »
    But I have not owned SDA’s or even heard them so I can’t attest to their sweet spot.

    They do have a fairly narrow area to sit that brings out the effect best.........

    But in all honesty, the Lsi with the Vifa tweeter, (having fairly narrow dispersion) also has a fairly narrow area that gives a very pinpoint image and sounds just right.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,820
    Maybe 2020 is the year you try an aftermarket power cord.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    Polk LSi’s have to be the best towers ever made. I must secure some for myself.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,820
    Absolutely Joe, just make sure you upgrade the crossovers with some Dayton caps and you'll be golden.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,944
    Awesome! Gotta sell my Adante’s first. Or maybe I can trade them for some LSi’s?
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,820
    Sell your Adante's what first? Trade them for some LSi's what?
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