On topic -- lookin' forward to copious feedback on the L800 Experience from the Skipfest MMXIX attendees. A separate thread would be most welcome & appreciated.
Remember that "it" has multiple personalities, and each is probably not aware of what the others do.
"So hot it burnsMice!"~DK
"Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
"Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
"Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
Speaking of no pants.....at work, no fotochop...was thinking of a lightman mod to this album cover....
Make yourself necessary to someone. Ralph Waldo Emerson
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
That being said, the constant bashing of F1NUT is getting ridiculous. He's a straight shooter, plenty of audio knowledge in his back pocket, more than most too. If he's a bit gruff at times, so what, aren't we all at one time or another. Not like he's calling your momma ugly or anything like that, right ? Put him on ignore if you don't care for his personality. That's why that option is there for all members.
Seems every time he chimes in on a thread, some of you drag it down into a personal conflict. Here's a clue....debate him on the merits of the thread topic instead of making it personal. That applies to everyone.
Wow, you have been here for many years, but seem clueless, by what you say.
Everyone knows F1nut starts crap with many (especially new) forum members, but I never see you call him out on making the forum look bad.
Where are you, the great arbiter of justice, when he is bashing someone??
Hiding in your corner?
Him bashing people non stop is fine right Tony??
He doesnt "Chime in", he makes thousands of personal rude comments, and what you are upset that someone dares to question the Troll being a troll?
You pretend you want to be some neutral "Peace Keeper", but make zero effort to address the Problem.
Everyone should just ignore Jesse, but he is not the actual problem right??
I've known the man for 20 years roughly, and never met him yet.
I have met F1nut on multiple occasions, and his hair was perfect.....every time.
Like minute rice...
I’ve seen him in full sunlight, and it was scintillating.
(He also sold me a couple crates of his LPs for a knock down price while I was there)
1. Polk LSiM707, 704C, 703; Dual SVS SB2000 subwoofers; Marantz SR7011 receiver; Parasound A31 amp; Oppo 205; Sony 65" 4K TV; FIOS; PS Audio Power Plant Premier; MIT S2 cables 2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 Preamp; Classe Model 25 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio Power Director; MIT S1 Cables 3. Polk LSiM703; Parasound JC2BP and A23; Sony 48" 4K TV; Wyred4Sound DAC 2; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
That being said, the constant bashing of F1NUT is getting ridiculous. He's a straight shooter, plenty of audio knowledge in his back pocket, more than most too. If he's a bit gruff at times, so what, aren't we all at one time or another. Not like he's calling your momma ugly or anything like that, right ? Put him on ignore if you don't care for his personality. That's why that option is there for all members.
Seems every time he chimes in on a thread, some of you drag it down into a personal conflict. Here's a clue....debate him on the merits of the thread topic instead of making it personal. That applies to everyone.
Wow, you have been here for many years, but seem clueless, by what you say.
Everyone knows F1nut starts crap with many (especially new) forum members, but I never see you call him out on making the forum look bad.
Where are you, the great arbiter of justice, when he is bashing someone??
Hiding in your corner?
Him bashing people non stop is fine right Tony??
He doesnt "Chime in", he makes thousands of personal rude comments, and what you are upset that someone dares to question the Troll being a troll?
You pretend you want to be some neutral "Peace Keeper", but make zero effort to address the Problem.
Everyone should just ignore Jesse, but he is not the actual problem right??
Would you please take this bickering back to your thread.
WTF......perhaps if you stopped posting fountains of misinformation Kelley the knowledgeable members wouldn't have to constantly correct your posts. Why not do us all a favor here; put the people on ignore that seem to offend you, wipe your eyes and move on.
WTF......perhaps if you stopped posting fountains of misinformation Kelley the knowledgeable members wouldn't have to constantly correct your posts. Why not do us all a favor here; put the people on ignore that seem to offend you, wipe your eyes and move on.
Misinformation, meaning, a view you do not like or agree with.
I see the same several guys, bashing anything I say. Nothing they have said, has seemed all that credible, but based on hurt feelings and disagreeing with things I say they do not want to hear.
No one has corrected me, but many have posted their views as being factually right and mine wrong.
Name something I was factually wrong about......Since you bring this up....list 10 things I am wrong about??
The AA Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
The AA Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
AA or not that can be good advice for life in general.
Name something I was factually wrong about......Since you bring this up....list 10 things I am wrong about?
Do you mean in just this thread alone???
Ok since you asked first and formost I'll point out a major mistake on your part. FWIW Jesse is my go to guy when making any change that involves my 1.2tl's. He's always glad to help and has never once steered me wrong. Nooshinjohn gave me a great deal on an incredible mc cart that for the first time lifted my vinyl beyond my digital. If it wasn't for him I'd more than likely would've retired my vinyl rig. I've also read cover to cover my hard copy of DK's excellent SDA handbook several times. Without the use of his dreadnaught I would not be able to use monoblocks. What I'm saying is because of these 3 members my rig is the very best it's ever been.
If you're actually serious about this hobby you're doing yourself a terrible disservice by putting these fine members on ignore just because you don't like being corrected.
Name something I was factually wrong about......Since you bring this up....list 10 things I am wrong about?
Do you mean in just this thread alone???
Ok since you asked first and formost I'll point out a major mistake on your part. FWIW Jesse is my go to guy when making any change that involves my 1.2tl's. He's always glad to help and has never once steered me wrong. Nooshinjohn gave me a great deal on an incredible mc cart that for the first time lifted my vinyl beyond my digital. If it wasn't for him I'd more than likely would've retired my vinyl rig. I've also read cover to cover my hard copy of DK's excellent SDA handbook several times. Without the use of his dreadnaught I would not be able to use monoblocks. What I'm saying is because of these 3 members my rig is the very best it's ever been.
If you're actually serious about this hobby you're doing yourself a terrible disservice by putting these fine members on ignore just because you don't like being corrected.
Talk about a dance around.
So what am I wrong about?
Again sounds like anyone that disagrees with them are automatically wrong in your mind.
Not sure I have ever been corrected, about what exactly?
or are you referring to when they do not like something I say, and they bash me and say "WRONG", over and over?
Name something specific I was wrong about.
The whole SDA effect thing, showed, they did not understand SDA, but were parroting marketing stuff Polk made, but none was in their own words, nor addressed anything I asked.
They are great at telling people how wrong they are, but never answering any direct questions, or proving anyone is wrong.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
Good advice and I agree.
I'm looking forward to reading someone's impression of having a direct comparison between the 2 flagships
I agree!
Very curious how the two compare.
Do you own the vintage flagship also?
Yes ma'am I do own the 1.2tl's and have since 2011. They've been recapped by F1nut with a binding post upgrade also done by him. I have all MIT cabling due to Jesse and I use a dreadnaught designed by darqueknight. This all starts with a Clearaudio Stradivari m/c cart that came from nooshinjohn earlier this year.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
This all starts with a Clearaudio Stradivari m/c cart that came from nooshinjohn earlier this year.
Glad to be of service, but wait until you try a Goldfinger!
I believe I can say with confidence that there will never be a Goldfinger here. I would love to hear one though and still find it incredible that it can best the Strad.
L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
Yes ma'am I do own the 1.2tl's and have since 2011. They've been recapped by F1nut with a binding post upgrade also done by him. I have all MIT cabling due to Jesse and I use a dreadnaught designed by darqueknight. This all starts with a Clearaudio Stradivari m/c cart that came from nooshinjohn earlier this year.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
Good advice and I agree.
I'm looking forward to reading someone's impression of having a direct comparison between the 2 flagships
I agree!
Very curious how the two compare.
Do you own the vintage flagship also?
Yes ma'am I do own the 1.2tl's and have since 2011. They've been recapped by F1nut with a binding post upgrade also done by him. I have all MIT cabling due to Jesse and I use a dreadnaught designed by darqueknight. This all starts with a Clearaudio Stradivari m/c cart that came from nooshinjohn earlier this year.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
When we first got a pair of Lsi, I expected our SDA SRS to beat them in every way, they did in low end extension and overall sound levels for sure, but for smoothness of sound, clarity, resolving low level treble sounds, and a few other things, the Lsi were the better speaker.
I imagine the new L800's will refine on the Lsi and Lsim sound.
Our older SDA's have a big sound, can get loud and can do fairly deep well, but never found them the epitome in focus, detail, and just resolving small sounds.
I found the vifa tweeters in the Lsi and Lsim to simply be on another level sound wise.
Of course we all listen for different aspects of sound.
Comments
What's new
I just did a Google search for your pants and I found them on the floor of Richard Simmons hotel room.
I don't have a tie...
On topic -- lookin' forward to copious feedback on the L800 Experience from the Skipfest MMXIX attendees. A separate thread would be most welcome & appreciated.
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/188110/official-polkfest-2019-complete-with-new-sdas/p1
Now THAT is the funniest thing you have ever posted!
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
@F1nut
Remember that "it" has multiple personalities, and each is probably not aware of what the others do.
"Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
"Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
"Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
Speaking of no pants.....at work, no fotochop...was thinking of a lightman mod to this album cover....
Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ & Pro 11+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS* Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 *
Like minute rice...
Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
Den:
Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500
dhsspeakerservice.com/
Exclusive Distributor of Gimpod's Custom SDA Circuit Boards
"And keep her under 70, would you, huh? Betty likes a slow ride"
Wow, you have been here for many years, but seem clueless, by what you say.
Everyone knows F1nut starts crap with many (especially new) forum members, but I never see you call him out on making the forum look bad.
Where are you, the great arbiter of justice, when he is bashing someone??
Hiding in your corner?
Him bashing people non stop is fine right Tony??
He doesnt "Chime in", he makes thousands of personal rude comments, and what you are upset that someone dares to question the Troll being a troll?
You pretend you want to be some neutral "Peace Keeper", but make zero effort to address the Problem.
Everyone should just ignore Jesse, but he is not the actual problem right??
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
I’ve seen him in full sunlight, and it was scintillating.
(He also sold me a couple crates of his LPs for a knock down price while I was there)
2. JM Labs Electra 920.1; Sonic Frontiers Line 3 Preamp; Classe Model 25 amp; Sony HAP-Z1ES; Oppo 105D; Music Hall MMF7 and Acoustech phono pre; PS Audio Power Director; MIT S1 Cables
3. Polk LSiM703; Parasound JC2BP and A23; Sony 48" 4K TV; Wyred4Sound DAC 2; Oppo 203; Squeezebox Touch; MIT S3 cables
Would you please take this bickering back to your thread.
Misinformation, meaning, a view you do not like or agree with.
I see the same several guys, bashing anything I say. Nothing they have said, has seemed all that credible, but based on hurt feelings and disagreeing with things I say they do not want to hear.
No one has corrected me, but many have posted their views as being factually right and mine wrong.
Name something I was factually wrong about......Since you bring this up....list 10 things I am wrong about??
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
The AA Serenity Prayer
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
AA or not that can be good advice for life in general.
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's
Do you mean in just this thread alone???
Ok since you asked first and formost I'll point out a major mistake on your part. FWIW Jesse is my go to guy when making any change that involves my 1.2tl's. He's always glad to help and has never once steered me wrong. Nooshinjohn gave me a great deal on an incredible mc cart that for the first time lifted my vinyl beyond my digital. If it wasn't for him I'd more than likely would've retired my vinyl rig. I've also read cover to cover my hard copy of DK's excellent SDA handbook several times. Without the use of his dreadnaught I would not be able to use monoblocks. What I'm saying is because of these 3 members my rig is the very best it's ever been.
If you're actually serious about this hobby you're doing yourself a terrible disservice by putting these fine members on ignore just because you don't like being corrected.
L800's is the topic, lets not tarnish a thread about Polks new flagship speaker please.
Thanks bro.
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's
Talk about a dance around.
So what am I wrong about?
Again sounds like anyone that disagrees with them are automatically wrong in your mind.
Not sure I have ever been corrected, about what exactly?
or are you referring to when they do not like something I say, and they bash me and say "WRONG", over and over?
Name something specific I was wrong about.
The whole SDA effect thing, showed, they did not understand SDA, but were parroting marketing stuff Polk made, but none was in their own words, nor addressed anything I asked.
They are great at telling people how wrong they are, but never answering any direct questions, or proving anyone is wrong.
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
Good advice and I agree.
I'm looking forward to reading someone's impression of having a direct comparison between the 2 flagships
I agree!
Very curious how the two compare.
Do you own the vintage flagship also?
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver
I look forward to reviews on the OP topic.
Yes ma'am I do own the 1.2tl's and have since 2011. They've been recapped by F1nut with a binding post upgrade also done by him. I have all MIT cabling due to Jesse and I use a dreadnaught designed by darqueknight. This all starts with a Clearaudio Stradivari m/c cart that came from nooshinjohn earlier this year.
I honestly cannot see the L800's besting them in any way but I'm human and I've been wrong before.
Glad to be of service, but wait until you try a Goldfinger!
I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
President of Club Polk
I believe I can say with confidence that there will never be a Goldfinger here. I would love to hear one though and still find it incredible that it can best the Strad.
When we first got a pair of Lsi, I expected our SDA SRS to beat them in every way, they did in low end extension and overall sound levels for sure, but for smoothness of sound, clarity, resolving low level treble sounds, and a few other things, the Lsi were the better speaker.
I imagine the new L800's will refine on the Lsi and Lsim sound.
Our older SDA's have a big sound, can get loud and can do fairly deep well, but never found them the epitome in focus, detail, and just resolving small sounds.
I found the vifa tweeters in the Lsi and Lsim to simply be on another level sound wise.
Of course we all listen for different aspects of sound.
B+W-Sold
Electro Voice EV-SIX
Infinity-Sold
Advent-Now gone
Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
Yamaha RX-A3060
Harman Kardon Hk-350i
Harman Kardon Hk-........
Harman Kardon PM-665
Harman Kardon HK-775
Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver