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Trying to put together my VTI rack right now, and one of the points doesn't line up with it's recession below. It's "off" and not aligned properly. Not sure how to get around this.
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IS the post cross threaded possibly, causing it to be slightly canted> IDK, just spit balling.
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Nope. All of the points have screwed in fine so far with no cross threading or seizing issues.
It's just the physical alignment of that corner's shaft I think. If I grab it super hard and pull it aligns, and then when I let go it goes back to misaligned. It's like the metal frame itself and/or the welds are slightly off.IS the post cross threaded possibly, causing it to be slightly canted> IDK, just spit balling.
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It should align itself once the rack is loaded with equipment . I had one like that with my VTI.Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
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Looks like that's one of the 12" legs. Right?Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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I used my feeble nerd arms to use brute force and bend it, and now it's aligning better. Yay.It should align itself once the rack is loaded with equipment . I had one like that with my VTI.
Edit: Tony, it was one of the 7" sections.Looks like that's one of the 12" legs. Right?
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Does the top side line up correctly?
You could stick a pipe that just fits in it and try some manual persuasion. That should work.
It just needs a bit of caressing."Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
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VTI has suggested to folks whack the leg with a rubber mallet. Experience with hammer wielding to achieve a desired result will help assure a positive outcome. One could dent the leg though.
TNT's above suggestion sounds good. The caps come off easily, just be careful of the finish.
Or like machone said, load it.Salk SoundScape 8's * Audio Research Reference 3 * Bottlehead Eros Phono * Park's Audio Budgie SUT * Krell KSA-250 * Harmonic Technology Pro 9+ * Signature Series Sonore Music Server w/Deux PS * Roon * Gustard R26 DAC / Singxer SU-6 DDC * Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive * AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm * AT33PTG/II & Denon 103R * Richard Gray 600S * NHT B-12d subs * GIK Acoustic Treatments * Sennheiser HD650 * -
Yeah, I see now in the instruction manual that they mention a rubber mallet may be necessary due to things getting knocked out of alignment during "shipping and handling".
AKA, if your rack was made at the factory on a Monday vs. a Friday.
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They've had issues like that going back years and years and why I'll never recommend a VTI rack or stands. You'd think by now they would have fixed their quality control problems.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I figured at this price point that the quality would be better than this.
I had a few more alignment issues with another frame piece. The end caps did not seem to be hammered down all the way, they are simply not installed evenly. I couldn't get them to budge, but I might try putting a towel over them tomorrow and giving some light taps with a hammer to see if I can fully seat them.
Additionally, two of the end caps that you screw the spikes into had little raised lips on the surface where the spike meets the cap - the metal wasn't completely flat like the others. As a result, the spike's alignment when fully screwed in is skewed and not straight/90 degrees.
This isn't "oh it might have gotten misaligned during shipping", but rather straight up poor quality control.They've had issues like that going back years and years and why I'll never recommend a VTI rack or stands. You'd think by now they would have fixed their quality control problems.
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when you put equipment with weight on the shelf it will align.Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
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The section that I posted about earlier is the only one that required brute force to try to bend and fix the alignment, which I was able to do.
The others are aligned as it stands currently, it's just visually disappointing to see the silver caps not installed correctly and two of the spikes coming down at something other than a 90 degree angle. That's what I meant about poor quality control.
It's just not built to as exacting standards of fit and finish that I would expect for the price. Shrug.when you put equipment with weight on the shelf it will align.
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Sadly, you never know what you're going to get these days. The rack I had from VTI had no issues whatsoever. Sorry about the trouble you're experiencing with it.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
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The section that I posted about earlier is the only one that required brute force to try to bend and fix the alignment, which I was able to do.
The others are aligned as it stands currently, it's just visually disappointing to see the silver caps not installed correctly and two of the spikes coming down at something other than a 90 degree angle. That's what I meant about poor quality control.
It's just not built to as exacting standards of fit and finish that I would expect for the price. Shrug.when you put equipment with weight on the shelf it will align.
Though these are nice looking racks, and, appear to be decent solid racks, they are, by far, on the lower end of the price spectrum when it comes to audio racks. If you can get it lined up after putting some weight on it, and are happy with the overall look and stability, I'd forget all about that little detail and be thankful that you got a nice looking, fairly stable rack at that price point. I'm still balking at spending somewhere in the $2K-$3k range for what is still a "fairly priced" rack. I'm seeing stuff in the $10k and up range. -
I should be used to it by now. It seems like with every major purchase I make there's something not quite right. I have bad luck I guess.Sadly, you never know what you're going to get these days. The rack I had from VTI had no issues whatsoever. Sorry about the trouble you're experiencing with it.
I would expect this quality out of the sub $100 Monoprice rack listed earlier in this thread, not a $400+ VTI.
The caps not being assembled correctly and the spikes coming out at a wonky angle are more than a "little detail", imo. The fact is, it doesn't look like the product photo shown on their website.
I get that made in China stuff can vary wildly in quality, but I don't think you'd be happy either if you just had purchased this, despite it being on the cheaper side of audio racks.Though these are nice looking racks, and, appear to be decent solid racks, they are, by far, on the lower end of the price spectrum when it comes to audio racks. If you can get it lined up after putting some weight on it, and are happy with the overall look and stability, I'd forget all about that little detail and be thankful that you got a nice looking, fairly stable rack at that price point. I'm still balking at spending somewhere in the $2K-$3k range for what is still a "fairly priced" rack. I'm seeing stuff in the $10k and up range.
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It's pretty difficult to illustrate the issues in photos, but here are some anyway:
All of the other metal shelf units are "acceptable", but this one should not have passed QC, imo. I'm tempted to just order another shelf.
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Those are typically much higher maintenance.
In a word: Yes.
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@Clipdat It looks like the end caps aren't seated properly. As if they went in slightly c@ck eyed and aren't seated flush thereby throwing off the projection of the spikes, or, the receiving cup. Might try taking the spike out and lightly tapping with a mallet, or dead blow, to see if they seat properly. Should use a piece of sacrificial wood covered in tape to keep from marring the surface.
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In this price level that is inexcusable and totally unacceptable! I'd be raising hell.Main Rig:
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My VTI is not anything like that one... everything looks good and aligned. I bought mine 10y ago.
Sorry buddy, do they send you new endcaps or replace the stands in question?Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Drew, I'm sorry to hear you have problems with the racks. I'll get with VTI today and see what they will do about this. I have never had any problem with alignment like this in the past with VTI racks. Sending you a PM about this.Sunfire Theater Grand IV
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Having owned a couple of VTI racks, the end caps on the older racks were much thicker than the new ones.
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@Clipdat It looks like the end caps aren't seated properly. As if they went in slightly c@ck eyed and aren't seated flush thereby throwing off the projection of the spikes, or, the receiving cup. Might try taking the spike out and lightly tapping with a mallet, or dead blow, to see if they seat properly. Should use a piece of sacrificial wood covered in tape to keep from marring the surface.
Yeah, I'd be a little ticked, but, would make a decision to try and fix, or, return it. No hill too high...
I agree that the caps are not fully seated. But I think the bigger problem is the legs are not aligned. I would try and remove all of the endcaps and bend the legs till they are aligned with each other. Then place one on top of the other to check the fit and make sure the legs match up perfectly, it looks like yours are 1/8 - 1/4 inch off.
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If you put your ear next to it can you hear a slight hum?
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I wouldn't "bend" anything! (Loss of warranty). Send back for replacement or refund! Shouldn't have to bend it to make it right! Just very poor quality control. It can happen to any company (even though it shouldn't) what they do will speak volumes as to the company.Main Rig:
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OPPO 83 CDP
Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
ADS L1590/2 Biamped
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I hope everything works out or you get a refund......... Its not good spending a lot of money on "cheap". But if you decide to spend a lot less for "cheap" check out this Sanus rack. Its only $120 shipped, can hold 200 lbs, and gets good reviews on Amazon. I know it is bare bones and not even close to most of the racks mentioned but it doesn't look too bad (at least to me). I just ordered one last night (before I looked at this thread). If anyone wants an update I will let you know when it gets here.
https://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1CZ1G98946
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I hope everything works out or you get a refund......... Its not good spending a lot of money on "cheap". But if you decide to spend a lot less for "cheap" check out this Sanus rack. Its only $120 shipped, can hold 200 lbs, and gets good reviews on Amazon. I know it is bare bones and not even close to most of the racks mentioned but it doesn't look too bad (at least to me). I just ordered one last night (before I looked at this thread). If anyone wants an update I will let you know when it gets here.
https://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1CZ1G98946
I like the Simplicity of these racks, I tried to mimick their look in my Racks
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soundfreak1 wrote: »I wouldn't "bend" anything! (Loss of warranty). Send back for replacement or refund! Shouldn't have to bend it to make it right! Just very poor quality control. It can happen to any company (even though it shouldn't) what they do will speak volumes as to the company.
Read the earlier post where the manual/instructions suggest using a mallet.
