Speaker cable fable!

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited September 2012
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Yeah this is as uninteresting as it gets on CP. I'm not sure when it became a crime to like things and not like others. If you believe in cables, awesome and if you don't....equally awesome but how about you realize that no one cares either way. IN a decade of audio forums this is still the most posted debate and still the most worthless read on any forum.

    VIVA LA MIT!

    And you just had to join in on the fun because of how uninteresting it all is didn't you ;P
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2012
    halo71 wrote: »
    No Rick's post weres the bast in dis thrad! <----musicians will understand this! :eek:

    :cheesygrin:

    I agree with you on this one Gary. Rick's post was the best of this thread. Then, second was Jesse's.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited September 2012
    Ok those needs some "Wire" for support....

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
    Pioneer 84TXSi AVR
    Pioneer 79Avi DVD
    Sony CX400 CD changer
    Panasonic 42-PX60U Plasma
    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited September 2012
    I was getting ready to beg Ken to stop this madness but things are starting to get,er, i mean look up!
    Main Rig-Realistic AM/FM Record player 8 track boasting 4 WPC

    Backup Rig-2 CH-Rogue Audio Zeus w/Factory Special Dark Mods,Joule-Electra 300ME Platinum Preamp,OPPO-105 w/Modwright Tube Mod, Auralic Aries G2.1,Polk 2.3TL,3.1TL's,Dreadnought,RTA-15TL's,1C's All Fully Modded,2xRTA-12c's ,Benchmark DAC3 HGC,Synology NAS,VPI Scout w/Dynavector DV-20XH and Rogue Audio Ares Phono Preamp,Sony PCM-R500 DAT,HHB-850 Pro CDR,Tascam CC-222SLMKII Cassette/CDR,MIT S3.3 Shotgun Cables,Shunyata Hyra-8,Shunyata and Triode Labs Power Cords

    I’M OFFENDED!!!!
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  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited September 2012
    all I am trying to do is lighten the mood a bit. Carry on...

    Can you lighten the mood a little more.:smile:
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  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited September 2012
    Thanks I needed that,Carry on!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited September 2012
    Not fair. You guys are pulling me back into this thread!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited September 2012
    Just received the October 2012 issue of the absolute sound and they interview the founders of MIT, Cardas Audio, Kimber Kables, Audioquest, and Siltech cables. They also review Siltech Explorer, Cardas Audio Clear, and Synergistic Research Element cables. Buy the magazine, read it, and learn something.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited September 2012
    it's really very simple and untouchable.

    That best cable possilble lets music go through without any change.

    Copper is excellent conductor of signal, and assuming you have proper shielding and thicknes (nothing fancy) signal passes through it without any changes. Tested carefully by The Audio Critic and confirmed by every doubleblind test by an independent respectable institution.

    Assuming there WAS a 'night and day' difference between the basic copper cable and other cables, one does arrive and severe logical contradictions. For example, having a system of separates would be a SEVERE disadvantage to a similar all-in-one AVR, for the simple reason that the AVR is soldered togerther without cables at all, and the separates will have to be connected with cables. So everything else being equal, system of preamp + copper cable + amp would have a severe disadvantage to the AVR made of the same components.

    The whole exotic cable business is just cheap charlatanry, only it isn't cheap. The nice thing about it is that only the ones with the 'golden' ears that can hear those magical nigh and day differences get ripped off and sponsor this whole farce. Really, someone should come out and file a lawsuit against companies like MIT for outrageous claims that are scientifically impossible
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited September 2012
    and i am sane enough to know that i will never convert someone like heiney and his posse. That is not why i bother posting. But this place has thousands of viewers who never post, and others who dig these things years after. THere should be a trace of the truth somewhere, otherwise we are doing the community a bad favor, leaving them in heiney's paws.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    jeremymarcinko wrote: »
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2012
    Rav, I believe you have forgotten the answers that were already given to you regarding the reason seperates are better than AVR's despite needing to be hooked up with IC's. Go back and look them up again.
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

    "Green leaves reveal the heart spoken Khatru"- Jon Anderson

    "Have A Little Faith! And Everything You'll Face, Will Jump From Out Right On Into Place! Yeah! Take A Little Time! And Everything You'll Find, Will Move From Gloom Right On Into Shine!"- Arthur Lee
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited September 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Just received the October 2012 issue of the absolute sound and they interview the founders of MIT, Cardas Audio, Kimber Kables, Audioquest, and Siltech cables. They also review Siltech Explorer, Cardas Audio Clear, and Synergistic Research Element cables. Buy the magazine, read it, and learn something.

    On page 50, William Low of AudioQuest, says "I use Polk Audio's introduction of Cobra Cable at the June 1976 Chicago CES as the opening shot in the cable wars."

    Since Polk started high end cables, I guess it is appropriate there are cable discussions. :biggrin:
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,008
    edited September 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    and i am sane enough to know that i will never convert someone like heiney and his posse. That is not why i bother posting. But this place has thousands of viewers who never post, and others who dig these things years after. THere should be a trace of the truth somewhere, otherwise we are doing the community a bad favor, leaving them in heiney's paws.

    I've heard some woppers in my time, this rates up there with the all time greats from the likes of T-unit. Yes Rav, only you have the truth in your hands, looking out for the other thousands of stupid readers. Like Moses leading the Jews out of Egypt. Who's playing God now ? Un-frickin'-believable.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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