How do the new L800 SDA compare to the Original Legend SDA-SRS 1.2TL?
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Any SDA really... but the SRS line was the cream of that crop. Hopefully we will have a long future with the revived SDA.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
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I hope to own some someday...
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boston1450 wrote: »Thx. This thread is about 1.2TL & L800 right...
YesPolitical Correctness'.........defined
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boston1450 wrote: »nooshinjohn wrote: »I would prefer to keep this thread open for actual ears on type comments.
Maybe I read it wrong. I was thinking maybe she/he had listened to some & would share why not impressed. Maybe I misunderstood
Right, I was talking about hearing our SDA SRS Speakers in a retail setting versus at home and it was a big difference.
Someone commented about hearing the new legends in a non home environment and them not sounding quite impressive, and I was sharing my view of SDA speakers in store versus our home.
Sorry for being vague!Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
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Yamaha A-S801
Yamaha RX-V377
Yamaha RX-A860
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Harman Kardon PM-665
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K_M I now see you have SDA's. My bad....
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I went back to RMAF to listen to the LS800s today and it was completely different. I loved them. Bass was great. Soundstage was great. There was a definite buzz in the room. People were anxious to get the good seats in the sweet spot. Compared to other speakers I heard, $6000 seems like a great deal. I don't know if they worked on the room or they just weren't broken in enough on Friday. I'm glad I went back. These speakers are really something special.2 Channel: Atohm GT-1 speakers, Atoll IN400 integrated amp, PS Audio DirectStream DAC, PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB with Ortofon Bronze cartridge, SotM sMS-200 ultra streamer, SotM sPS-500 power supply, and homemade infinite baffle subwoofer with two Fi Audio IB318 drivers.
HT: All Polk: SDA 2.3tl fronts, CSiA6 center, 500-LS ceiling, RT/FX, RTi8, Monitor 4 rears, plus Yamaha CX-a5100 AV Preamplifier/Processor, Yamaha MX-a5000 11.1 channel amplifier, and Sony XBR55-AE1 OLED TV. -
I went back to RMAF to listen to the LS800s today and it was completely different. I loved them. Bass was great. Soundstage was great. There was a definite buzz in the room. People were anxious to get the good seats in the sweet spot. Compared to other speakers I heard, $6000 seems like a great deal. I don't know if they worked on the room or they just weren't broken in enough on Friday. I'm glad I went back. These speakers are really something special.
Very cool!
Basement: Polk SDA SRS 1.2tl's, Cary SLP-05 Pre with ultimate upgrade,McIntosh MCD CD/SACD player, Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC, Cambridge 851N streamer, McIntosh MC300 Amp, Silnote Morpheus Ref2, Series2 Digital Cables, Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Series2 XLR's, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Pangea Power Cables, MIT Shotgun S3 IC's, MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
Office: PC, EAR Acute CD Player, EAR 834L Pre, Northstar Designs Intenso DAC, Antique Sound Labs AV8 Monoblocks, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus sub, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable, Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
Spare Room: Dayens Ampino Integrated Amp, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), Analysis Plus Oval 9's, Zu Jumpers, AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2, SVS PB1000 sub, Blue Jeans RCA IC's, Shunyata Hydra 8 Power Conditioner
Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated, Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer, Rotel RCD-1072 CD player, Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
Garage: Cambridge Audio 640A Integrated Amp, Project Box-E BT Streamer, Polk Tsi200 Bookies, Douglas Speaker Cables, Shunyata Power Conditioner -
I went back to RMAF to listen to the LS800s today and it was completely different. I loved them. Bass was great. Soundstage was great. There was a definite buzz in the room. People were anxious to get the good seats in the sweet spot. Compared to other speakers I heard, $6000 seems like a great deal. I don't know if they worked on the room or they just weren't broken in enough on Friday. I'm glad I went back. These speakers are really something special.
If you get a chance, try to find out how many hours that the speakers have been used. Was there a previous break-in period? Can you tell us what type and length of speaker cables were used. Lastly and what electronics (source, preamp, and amplifiers) were used. I would suggest that this information would be insightful to others wanting to put together a similar system for themselves. -
Good thinking. I wish I had thought of it. It looked like their entire stack was Marantz, but I don't know which models. You can sort of see the electronics in the corner.
2 Channel: Atohm GT-1 speakers, Atoll IN400 integrated amp, PS Audio DirectStream DAC, PS Audio NuWave Phono Converter, Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB with Ortofon Bronze cartridge, SotM sMS-200 ultra streamer, SotM sPS-500 power supply, and homemade infinite baffle subwoofer with two Fi Audio IB318 drivers.
HT: All Polk: SDA 2.3tl fronts, CSiA6 center, 500-LS ceiling, RT/FX, RTi8, Monitor 4 rears, plus Yamaha CX-a5100 AV Preamplifier/Processor, Yamaha MX-a5000 11.1 channel amplifier, and Sony XBR55-AE1 OLED TV. -
A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.Political Correctness'.........defined
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A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.
No problems with real monoblocks though?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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That's what I was told.Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
Wonder why they didn't go with Classe.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” -
That's what I was told.
Strange. I wonder if the user manual will have a small list of things it's not compatible with? Will using a PM10 hurt anything or does it just not produce sound? If it hurts something who's responsible when something super esoteric has been hooked up to these that hasn't been tested and something breaks? Is there legal jargon that says use these speakers with dual mono designs at your own risk? So many questions.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Wonder why they didn't go with Classe.
Because Marantz sounds better.Political Correctness'.........defined
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The PM10 is not common ground.
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The coffee shop at Georgetown University, at least when our daughter was there, is/was called Uncommon Grounds.
That seemed like something worthy of mention in the context of the recent posts to this thread.
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The PM10 is not common ground.
Correct, it's a bridged dual mono fully balanced switching amp.Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
We need some clarification then about whether or not monoblocks will work with the new speakers, or if there is a dreadnaught-type interface on the way.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” -
I was told the design of the new crossover negates the use of an isolation transformer with non-common ground amps. However, there appears to be an exception.
I'm sure we will learn more when they are released.Political Correctness'.........defined
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President of Club Polk -
Could it be the high frequency of the switching power supply? Maybe there IS going to be some limitations on amp topography? -
edited, my post wasn't "on point" enough, sorry
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By the looks of the schematic diagram in the patent , the grounds of the dimensional drivers are tied together with the interconnect just like in previous models. I would think a common ground reference would still be necessary. -
Thanks Fred 👍
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Interesting.I was told the design of the new crossover negates the use of an isolation transformer with non-common ground amps.
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By the looks of the schematic diagram in the patent , the grounds of the dimensional drivers are tied together with the interconnect just like in previous models. I would think a common ground reference would still be necessary.
I hope that won't be the case. The guys they are marketing these to will want every option available for amplification...The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Statement V2 cartridge and Origin Conqueror Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered…History has stopped. Nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right” — George Orwell
“If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” -
I'd like to have the opinions of, for example, @VR3 and @westmassguy about whether the crossovers on the new SDAs are "ripe" for upgrading and modifying with better capacitors, resistors, and inductors, as were the original SDAs.
From what I've seen, it would seem very difficult to upgrade the stock crossovers, but I confess to knowing little of value about the subject.Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer with Morrow Audios USB cable to DirectStream DAC w/Bridge II; AQ Sky XLRs, McIntosh MC 220 Tube Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).
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Well Polk told F1 otherwise so I'm sure they will add clarity to the subject.Thanks Fred 👍 -
Can they be? Sure, but there's a lot of components on the board, so it isn't going to be cheap.Political Correctness'.........defined
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