How do the new L800 SDA compare to the Original Legend SDA-SRS 1.2TL?

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  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 6,516
    Thx. This thread is about 1.2TL & L800 right...
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,582
    Any SDA really... but the SRS line was the cream of that crop. Hopefully we will have a long future with the revived SDA.
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  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 6,516
    I hope to own some someday
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    boston1450 wrote: »
    Thx. This thread is about 1.2TL & L800 right...

    Yes
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  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,539
    boston1450 wrote: »
    I would prefer to keep this thread open for actual ears on type comments.

    Maybe I read it wrong. I was thinking maybe she/he had listened to some & would share why not impressed. Maybe I misunderstood

    Right, I was talking about hearing our SDA SRS Speakers in a retail setting versus at home and it was a big difference.
    Someone commented about hearing the new legends in a non home environment and them not sounding quite impressive, and I was sharing my view of SDA speakers in store versus our home.
    Sorry for being vague!
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  • boston1450boston1450 Posts: 6,516
    K_M I now see you have SDA's. My bad.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,230
    BC6 wrote: »
    I went back to RMAF to listen to the LS800s today and it was completely different. I loved them. Bass was great. Soundstage was great. There was a definite buzz in the room. People were anxious to get the good seats in the sweet spot. Compared to other speakers I heard, $6000 seems like a great deal. I don't know if they worked on the room or they just weren't broken in enough on Friday. I'm glad I went back. These speakers are really something special.

    Very cool! :)
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  • DeltadonDeltadon Posts: 93
    edited September 8
    BC6 wrote: »
    I went back to RMAF to listen to the LS800s today and it was completely different. I loved them. Bass was great. Soundstage was great. There was a definite buzz in the room. People were anxious to get the good seats in the sweet spot. Compared to other speakers I heard, $6000 seems like a great deal. I don't know if they worked on the room or they just weren't broken in enough on Friday. I'm glad I went back. These speakers are really something special.

    If you get a chance, try to find out how many hours that the speakers have been used. Was there a previous break-in period? Can you tell us what type and length of speaker cables were used. Lastly and what electronics (source, preamp, and amplifiers) were used. I would suggest that this information would be insightful to others wanting to put together a similar system for themselves.
  • BC6BC6 Posts: 109
    Good thinking. I wish I had thought of it. It looked like their entire stack was Marantz, but I don't know which models. You can sort of see the electronics in the corner.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,664
    F1nut wrote: »
    A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.

    No problems with real monoblocks though?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    Nightfall wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.

    No problems with real monoblocks though?

    That's what I was told.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,582
    Wonder why they didn't go with Classe.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,664
    F1nut wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    A Marantz AVR or pre/pro, Marantz amp and Marantz SA10. It was mentioned to me that the L800 will not work with the PM10, but I don't know why. Seeing as Polk didn't take it to RMAF I have to believe what I was told is true.

    No problems with real monoblocks though?

    That's what I was told.

    Strange. I wonder if the user manual will have a small list of things it's not compatible with? Will using a PM10 hurt anything or does it just not produce sound? If it hurts something who's responsible when something super esoteric has been hooked up to these that hasn't been tested and something breaks? Is there legal jargon that says use these speakers with dual mono designs at your own risk? So many questions.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    Wonder why they didn't go with Classe.

    Because Marantz sounds better.
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  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,654
    The PM10 is not common ground.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,607
    edited September 8
    The coffee shop at Georgetown University, at least when our daughter was there, is/was called Uncommon Grounds.

    That seemed like something worthy of mention in the context of the recent posts to this thread.

    B)
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,911
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Hmmm thought that didn't matter?
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Correct, it's a bridged dual mono fully balanced switching amp.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,582
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Hmmm thought that didn't matter?

    We need some clarification then about whether or not monoblocks will work with the new speakers, or if there is a dreadnaught-type interface on the way.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 43,111
    edited September 8
    I was told the design of the new crossover negates the use of an isolation transformer with non-common ground amps. However, there appears to be an exception.

    I'm sure we will learn more when they are released.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,911
    F1nut wrote: »
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Correct, it's a bridged dual mono fully balanced switching amp.

    Could it be the high frequency of the switching power supply? Maybe there IS going to be some limitations on amp topography?
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,607
    edited September 8
    F1nut wrote: »
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Correct, it's a bridged dual mono fully balanced switching amp.

    edited, my post wasn't "on point" enough, sorry :|

  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,654
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Hmmm thought that didn't matter?
    By the looks of the schematic diagram in the patent , the grounds of the dimensional drivers are tied together with the interconnect just like in previous models. I would think a common ground reference would still be necessary.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,911
    Thanks Fred 👍
  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,654
    F1nut wrote: »
    I was told the design of the new crossover negates the use of an isolation transformer with non-common ground amps.
    Interesting.

  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 21,582
    FTGV wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    FTGV wrote: »
    The PM10 is not common ground.

    Hmmm thought that didn't matter?
    By the looks of the schematic diagram in the patent , the grounds of the dimensional drivers are tied together with the interconnect just like in previous models. I would think a common ground reference would still be necessary.

    I hope that won't be the case. The guys they are marketing these to will want every option available for amplification...
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  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,625
    I'd like to have the opinions of, for example, @VR3 and @westmassguy about whether the crossovers on the new SDAs are "ripe" for upgrading and modifying with better capacitors, resistors, and inductors, as were the original SDAs.

    From what I've seen, it would seem very difficult to upgrade the stock crossovers, but I confess to knowing little of value about the subject.
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  • FTGVFTGV Posts: 3,654
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Thanks Fred 👍
    Well Polk told F1 otherwise so I'm sure they will add clarity to the subject.
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