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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,815
    BlueFox wrote: »
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Geezs, I thought I was just asking a simple question about cables.

    No such thing as 'simple' in this hobby. Or, conversely, simple things for simple minds. Your choice. :)

    I totally disagree (FWIW).
    Folks certainly do manage to complicate the hobby, but the sum total of comin' up on five decades of fiddlin' with hifi audio has convinced me that simpler is better when it comes to the reproduction of music that sounds like real musicians playing real music in a real environment.

    YMMV, of course, but I just wanted to kind of chuck that out there. :|
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,535
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Geezs, I thought I was just asking a simple question about cables.

    No such thing as 'simple' in this hobby. Or, conversely, simple things for simple minds. Your choice. :)

    I totally disagree (FWIW).
    Folks certainly do manage to complicate the hobby, but the sum total of comin' up on five decades of fiddlin' with hifi audio has convinced me that simpler is better when it comes to the reproduction of music that sounds like real musicians playing real music in a real environment.

    YMMV, of course, but I just wanted to kind of chuck that out there. :|

    Five decades. Doesn’t sound very simple to me. :)
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1 file player
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,388
    tonyb wrote: »
    I liken the cable discussion to cooking. Your in essence trying to create your own recipe, using the best ingredients you can, to create something specifically designed to your own preferences. The quality of those ingredients would be apparent in the final result. Same goes for audio.....

    Some can eat Taco Bell every day and be happy. Others who know what real Mexican food tastes like would have another opinion. Venture outside your comfort zones gents, that's how we make discoveries.

    Mmm Taco Bell...
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> Audio Research Reference 40th Anniversary -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ARC Ref 40th Anniversary
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 7,099
    Gentlemen,
    Let's refrain from calling each other derogatory names such as "arrogant". This topic has been more thoroughly discussed than any in the history of audio. There's really not much to add is there?
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,535
    There is always something to add.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1 file player
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 4,277
    My apologies. I honestly didn't mean it as a personal attack, but I can certainly understand how it could have been interpreted that way. Should have chosen my words more carefully.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 3,198
    Roughouts

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    Celery green, baby!
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 2,315
    edited December 2018
    I love this thread, just keeps on giving and giving.

    Now if I could just find a killer deal on some AQ interconnects life would be great.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk LsiM 705
    Center: Polk LSiM 704C
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk S15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
    Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,602
    edited December 2018
    AQ fan here too
    Although wireworld has me intrigued
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u

    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • ThortonThorton Posts: 1,298
    It's like watching your favorite movie over and over and over again Ken. :)

    Yes, but I wish it was "Rocky"
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________
    Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
    Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
    DAC: Bricasti M1SE
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
    Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
    Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
    Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
    Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
    Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
    IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
    Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
    Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics
  • These threads always get "rocky". That should suffice.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,501
    These type of threads I like seeing a "troll" appear as it normally brings out a few well informed members for rebuttal. Then I get the benefit of learning something new.
  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 7,099
    edited December 2018
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".
    "They thought we were too loud, but shoot, I had four army blankets folded over my amp, and the volume level was on 2. I'm used to playin' on 10!" S.R.V.
  • You'd swear this was a speaker wire forum. You won't see this much passion at a southern revival.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,602
    My power cable leads those revivals

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    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u

    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,129
    This is the first time I’ve ever seen anybody work in green cowboy boots into a cable thread, so something new.
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 3,198
    edited December 2018
    rpf65 wrote: »
    This is the first time I’ve ever seen anybody work in green cowboy boots into a cable thread, so something new.
    My boots have become a diffuser of tension on the forum. They bring happiness and joy! It's the equivalent of waking up to a Christmas tree full of presents when you're a little kid. Or smelling coffee and bacon in the morning. Who doesn't love that? Merry Christmas!
  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,699
    edited December 2018
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

    There are three things that give a man a false sense of courage, a keyboard, alcohol and a firearm.
    Motorhead, 4.12.20

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb and dumber.
  • HermitismHermitism Posts: 3,198
    edited December 2018
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.
  • ken brydsonken brydson Posts: 7,790
    edited December 2018
    Hermitism wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.

    David Lee Roth?

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    HT/Main- Panny 50" G10 Plasma, Pioneer SC-1222k AVR, Panny DMP-BD60 BDP, Polk LS90 mains, CS350LS center, LS/fx side surrounds, LS50 surround backs, SVS 25-31PC+ sub, Harmony One

    Office Rig- Marantz 2252B, Denon 2910, Kenwood KD2070 TT, Polk RTA 12B's/ RTA8t
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,684
    tonyb wrote: »
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".

    LOL...complete with our own "cousin Eddie" AKA....Russ. :)

    What's your address?....
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,368
    lightman1 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".

    LOL...complete with our own "cousin Eddie" AKA....Russ. :)

    What's your address?....

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    Den: Lumin D1,Wireworld Silver Eclipse RCA, KEF LS50 Wireless, Velodyne SPL1200, Technics 1200, Denon DL160, Jolida D9,

    Living Room:,T+A PA 1530R, Tyler Highland H2, High Fidelity Reveal RCA, Aries Mini, LKS MH-da004, Wireworld Silver Eclipse SC

    Have but haven't used in a while: LH Labs VI Dac, Cayin SCD50T, , W4S recovery,Grant Fidelity Tube Dac 11
  • ZLTFULZLTFUL Posts: 5,416
    Man if only some cable naysayers would offer their unsolicited advice...
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
  • ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Man if only some cable naysayers would offer their unsolicited advice...

    I like unsolicited cable naysayer advice. It's even better when such advice does not have come from the advisor's practical or reasonable personal experience.
    "So hot it burns Mice!"~DK
    "Polk SDA-SRSs are hopelessly out of date both sonically and technologically... I see no value whatsoever in older SDA speakers."~Audio Asylum Member
    "Knowledge, without understanding, is a path to failure."~DK
    "Those who irrationally rail against something or someone that is no threat to them, actually desire (or desire to be like) the thing or person they are railing against."~DK
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,466
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.

    See, we can agree on some things. lol

    BTW Russ, my addy is 1 north Frosty lane, North pole....see ya in the summer, maybe. :)
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • halohalo Posts: 5,570
    Hermitism wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.

    What about these B(. Y .)bs?
  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,684
    tonyb wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.

    See, we can agree on some things. lol

    BTW Russ, my addy is 1 north Frosty lane, North pole....see ya in the summer, maybe. :)

    Sweet! I'll bring canolli and scotch....
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    rpf65 wrote: »
    Have to disagree K_M. When I went from no name to Canare wire, thought I heard a little difference, but wasn’t quite sure. After a few weeks, switched back, and noticed that the midrange was less pronounced. Took a while, but got curious again.

    @K_M 's experience differs from yours. She once thought she heard a difference in cables, but when she did a blind test, the differences "disappeared". When I (repeatedly) asked how the test was set up and what evaluation methodology was used (specifically, what performance criteria were listened for), she refused to answer.

    Actually I will say there can be small differences for sure. But most are small enough that they fall into the "maybe, or maybe not" such as early morning listening, or listening on a sunny day, changes my perception of sound.

    I will not get into "Discussions" with you, based on your previous "Style" of discussing, which usually is copying and pasting a bunch of information from other sources, and so on, and asking me specifically to prove you wrong........

    Lsi15, Lsi9, LsiC,Rta11t,M5jr+,M4, SDA SRS 2.3TL, Rti6....Still listing stuff, a work in progress.
    B+W-Sold
    Electro Voice EV-SIX
    Infinity-Sold
    Advent-Now gone
    Yamaha A-S801
    Yamaha RX-V377
    Yamaha RX-A860
    Yamaha RX-A3060
    Harman Kardon Hk-350i
    Harman Kardon Hk-........
    Harman Kardon PM-665
    Harman Kardon HK-775
    Pioneer.......Stereo Receiver

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