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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    BlueFox wrote: »
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Geezs, I thought I was just asking a simple question about cables.

    No such thing as 'simple' in this hobby. Or, conversely, simple things for simple minds. Your choice. :)

    I totally disagree (FWIW).
    Folks certainly do manage to complicate the hobby, but the sum total of comin' up on five decades of fiddlin' with hifi audio has convinced me that simpler is better when it comes to the reproduction of music that sounds like real musicians playing real music in a real environment.

    YMMV, of course, but I just wanted to kind of chuck that out there. :|
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Geezs, I thought I was just asking a simple question about cables.

    No such thing as 'simple' in this hobby. Or, conversely, simple things for simple minds. Your choice. :)

    I totally disagree (FWIW).
    Folks certainly do manage to complicate the hobby, but the sum total of comin' up on five decades of fiddlin' with hifi audio has convinced me that simpler is better when it comes to the reproduction of music that sounds like real musicians playing real music in a real environment.

    YMMV, of course, but I just wanted to kind of chuck that out there. :|

    Five decades. Doesn’t sound very simple to me. :)
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,563
    tonyb wrote: »
    I liken the cable discussion to cooking. Your in essence trying to create your own recipe, using the best ingredients you can, to create something specifically designed to your own preferences. The quality of those ingredients would be apparent in the final result. Same goes for audio.....

    Some can eat Taco Bell every day and be happy. Others who know what real Mexican food tastes like would have another opinion. Venture outside your comfort zones gents, that's how we make discoveries.

    Mmm Taco Bell...
    Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    Gentlemen,
    Let's refrain from calling each other derogatory names such as "arrogant". This topic has been more thoroughly discussed than any in the history of audio. There's really not much to add is there?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    There is always something to add.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,208
    My apologies. I honestly didn't mean it as a personal attack, but I can certainly understand how it could have been interpreted that way. Should have chosen my words more carefully.
    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,271
    Roughouts

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    Celery green, baby!
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    edited December 2018
    I love this thread, just keeps on giving and giving.

    Now if I could just find a killer deal on some AQ interconnects life would be great.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
    Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
    Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
    Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    edited December 2018
    AQ fan here too
    Although wireworld has me intrigued
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited December 2018
    KennethSwauger wrote: »
    This topic has been more thoroughly discussed than any in the history of audio. There's really not much to add is there?

    It's like watching your favorite movie over and over and over again Ken. :)

    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    It's like watching your favorite movie over and over and over again Ken. :)

    Yes, but I wish it was "Rocky"
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    Ethernet Filter: GigaFOILv4 with Keces P3 LPS
    Source: Roon via ethernet to DAC interface
    DAC: Bricasti M1SE
    Pre/Pro: Marantz AV8805
    Tube Preamp Buffer: Tortuga TPB.V1
    Amp1: Nord One NC1200DM Signature, Amp2: W4S MC-5, AMP3: W4S MMC-7
    Front: Salk SoundScape 8's, Center: Salk SoundScape C7
    Surround: Polk FXIA6, Surround Back: Polk RTIA9, Atmos: Polk 70-RT
    Subs: 2 - Rythmik F25's
    IC & Speaker Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, Signal Cable
    Power Cables: Acoustic Zen, Wireworld, PS Audio
    Room Treatments: GIK Acoustics
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    These threads always get "rocky". That should suffice.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,141
    These type of threads I like seeing a "troll" appear as it normally brings out a few well informed members for rebuttal. Then I get the benefit of learning something new.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited December 2018
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    You'd swear this was a speaker wire forum. You won't see this much passion at a southern revival.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    My power cable leads those revivals

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    KennethSwauger wrote: »
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".

    LOL...complete with our own "cousin Eddie" AKA....Russ. :)
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    This is the first time I’ve ever seen anybody work in green cowboy boots into a cable thread, so something new.
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,271
    edited December 2018
    rpf65 wrote: »
    This is the first time I’ve ever seen anybody work in green cowboy boots into a cable thread, so something new.
    My boots have become a diffuser of tension on the forum. They bring happiness and joy! It's the equivalent of waking up to a Christmas tree full of presents when you're a little kid. Or smelling coffee and bacon in the morning. Who doesn't love that? Merry Christmas!
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,900
    edited December 2018
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
    The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,271
    edited December 2018
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited December 2018
    Hermitism wrote: »
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.

    David Lee Roth?

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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,789
    tonyb wrote: »
    KennethSwauger wrote: »
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".

    LOL...complete with our own "cousin Eddie" AKA....Russ. :)

    What's your address?....
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    lightman1 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    KennethSwauger wrote: »
    Kind of like "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation".

    LOL...complete with our own "cousin Eddie" AKA....Russ. :)

    What's your address?....

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    Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,651
    Man if only some cable naysayers would offer their unsolicited advice...
    "Some people find it easier to be conceited rather than correct."

    "Unwad those panties and have a good time man. We're all here to help each other, no matter how it might appear." DSkip
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    Man if only some cable naysayers would offer their unsolicited advice...

    I like unsolicited cable naysayer advice. It's even better when such advice does not have come from the advisor's practical or reasonable personal experience.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.

    See, we can agree on some things. lol

    BTW Russ, my addy is 1 north Frosty lane, North pole....see ya in the summer, maybe. :)
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Hermitism wrote: »
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.
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    This is the best I could do, the only kind of booby the forum allows.

    What about these B(. Y .)bs?
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,789
    tonyb wrote: »
    motorhead43026 wrote: »
    ^^I would much prefer bo-obs, lots of bo-obs.

    See, we can agree on some things. lol

    BTW Russ, my addy is 1 north Frosty lane, North pole....see ya in the summer, maybe. :)

    Sweet! I'll bring canolli and scotch....
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,629
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    rpf65 wrote: »
    Have to disagree K_M. When I went from no name to Canare wire, thought I heard a little difference, but wasn’t quite sure. After a few weeks, switched back, and noticed that the midrange was less pronounced. Took a while, but got curious again.

    @K_M 's experience differs from yours. She once thought she heard a difference in cables, but when she did a blind test, the differences "disappeared". When I (repeatedly) asked how the test was set up and what evaluation methodology was used (specifically, what performance criteria were listened for), she refused to answer.

    Actually I will say there can be small differences for sure. But most are small enough that they fall into the "maybe, or maybe not" such as early morning listening, or listening on a sunny day, changes my perception of sound.

    I will not get into "Discussions" with you, based on your previous "Style" of discussing, which usually is copying and pasting a bunch of information from other sources, and so on, and asking me specifically to prove you wrong........

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