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  • delkal
    delkal Posts: 764
    edited December 2018
    Eleven pages and counting and it seems like everyone is wrong here. There is no difference if you use expensive cables or or just cheap hardware store lamp cord IF you couple them up with Brilliant Pebbles. Seems that they correct all of the problems in cables. They are a "unique and comprehensive system for tuning the room and audio system based on special physical properties of highly symmetrical crystal structures".

    "Brilliant Pebbles addresses specific resonance control and RFI/EMI absorption problems associated with audio electronics, speakers and cables, as well as acoustic wave problems associated with the listening room boundaries and the 3-dimensional space within the boundaries. "

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    They are cheaper than expensive cables interconnects too!

    machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm


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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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    Lmao!!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    HAHA....so that's what happens when you stop going to therapy, you tie bags of rocks to your cables ? :)
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    edited December 2018
    tonyb wrote: »
    HAHA....so that's what happens when you stop going to therapy, you tie bags of rocks to your cables ? :)



    Don’t judge till u try it

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    edited December 2018
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    HAHA....so that's what happens when you stop going to therapy, you tie bags of rocks to your cables ? :)



    Don’t judge till u try it

    If I did that Ron, the wife would be looking up straight jackets on Amazon. Besides, if I sat down with a lap full of rocks, she'd probably come along and plant a cactus in there....which has the possibility of being very painful.
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    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Pretty dead on right @DarqueKnight ?

    Dead on.

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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    K_M wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ouch, that's going to leave a mark.

    Not really....a dozen or so of the same guys, saying the same stuff, on a forum with a very small membership, really does nothing to upset me at all.
    If you venture to much larger audio forums, you would see many different views overall.


    As for you not being upset by being schooled once again proves once again that your mind was and remains closed. In addition, your posts in this thread leave little doubt as to your passive aggressive character trait. Some self reflection on your part could do you well.

    Some alcohol could do me well also....

    It’s Friday night. I’ll drink to that, and enjoy my excellent cables. :)

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  • gdphoto
    gdphoto Posts: 182
    Well I'm half way finished my Furez 12/4 cables, I'll be done them tomorrow. Yesterday I received the 15 foot MIT AVT3 used cables I bought. Any thoughts as to what I may except to hear from both of them?
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  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Well I'm half way finished my Furez 12/4 cables, I'll be done them tomorrow. Yesterday I received the 15 foot MIT AVT3 used cables I bought. Any thoughts as to what I may except to hear from both of them?

    When you try the MIT’s, you’ll hear F1 Nut in the background saying; “See, I told you so.”
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,645
    rpf65 wrote: »
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Well I'm half way finished my Furez 12/4 cables, I'll be done them tomorrow. Yesterday I received the 15 foot MIT AVT3 used cables I bought. Any thoughts as to what I may except to hear from both of them?

    When you try the MIT’s, you’ll hear F1 Nut in the background saying; “See, I told you so.”

    LMAO!!!
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    How about Himalayan salt lamps? No joke.... I was reading an article to my wife (basically making fun of) about the use of salt lamps in the listening room.... apparently it benefits sound quality. Can anyone guess what I got for Christmas?

    You got married?

    Yeah buddy! We snuck away to do it. Haha
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    edited December 2018
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    How about Himalayan salt lamps? No joke.... I was reading an article to my wife (basically making fun of) about the use of salt lamps in the listening room.... apparently it benefits sound quality. Can anyone guess what I got for Christmas?

    You got married?

    Yeah buddy! We snuck away to do it. Haha

    Congrats man!

    Thank you skip. I have to get into the habit of saying “wife” now.
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
    edited December 2018
    I use one of those salt things in the family room mainly because it’s a cool looking nightlight lol...

    If it does other things to help audio rock on. My wife said it’s supposed to help with anxiety and had it at her work but moved departments and didn’t have the desk space.....
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    How about Himalayan salt lamps? No joke.... I was reading an article to my wife (basically making fun of) about the use of salt lamps in the listening room.... apparently it benefits sound quality. Can anyone guess what I got for Christmas?

    You got married?

    Yeah buddy! We snuck away to do it. Haha

    Congrats man!

    Thank you skip. I have to get into the habit of saying “wife” now.

    Congrats! Is there a Mikey jr on the way?!?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    Mikey, give your wife my number so I can properly school her on gifts for an audiophile. If she continues on the same path, for your Birthday your going to get bags of rocks for your cables. :)
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    Or worse:
    http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina25.htm
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  • K_M
    K_M Posts: 1,629
    tonyb wrote: »
    Mikey, give your wife my number so I can properly school her on gifts for an audiophile. If she continues on the same path, for your Birthday your going to get bags of rocks for your cables. :)

    Seriously.....the use of the term "School".,,,,,,,, :#
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    K_M wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Mikey, give your wife my number so I can properly school her on gifts for an audiophile. If she continues on the same path, for your Birthday your going to get bags of rocks for your cables. :)

    Seriously.....the use of the term "School".,,,,,,,, :#

    ...and the problem with that is...what exactly ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
    Technically best speaker wire is NO SPEAKER WIRE!

    Active powered speakers FTW!
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,465
    edited December 2018
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    How about Himalayan salt lamps? No joke.... I was reading an article to my wife (basically making fun of) about the use of salt lamps in the listening room.... apparently it benefits sound quality. Can anyone guess what I got for Christmas?

    You got married?

    Yeah buddy! We snuck away to do it. Haha

    Congrats bro.

    Hear is something from someone who has been married for 25 years. don't let her win on one thing of gear she wants moved/removed, once that happens it goes down hill quick.

    Trust me I had a nice setup, before I knew I had just in-ceiling speakers.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,981
    mrloren wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    mikeyb128 wrote: »
    How about Himalayan salt lamps? No joke.... I was reading an article to my wife (basically making fun of) about the use of salt lamps in the listening room.... apparently it benefits sound quality. Can anyone guess what I got for Christmas?

    You got married?

    Yeah buddy! We snuck away to do it. Haha

    Congrats bro.

    Hear is something from someone who has been married for 25 years. don't let her win on one thing of gear she wants moved/removed, once that happens it goes down hill quick.

    Trust me I had a nice setup, before I knew I had just in-ceiling speakers.

    Your doing good my man. I got regulated to the shower....with a double insulated curtain....and no soap.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
    tonyb wrote: »
    Your doing good my man. I got regulated to the shower....with a double insulated curtain....and no soap..... with TOM

    Fixed it for ya :wink:

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  • gdphoto
    gdphoto Posts: 182
    I hooked up the DYI Furez 12/4's last night. I could only listen to them for about an hour. So far I definitely hear better base and seems to be more clarity. I'll know better when I get back home on Tuesday and give them a work out. Turns out the old Monsters were 20 feet long. Thought I cut them down to 10 feet years ago. I built a book shelf/entertainment center back in the mid nineties and the cables have been hidden. The middle 6 to 8 feet have turned dark, dark green, almost black. That surprised me. Anyway, so far I think they sound good. Do cables need to break in? I'll listen to them for a few weeks and then I'll try the MIT AVT3's and see if they sound any different.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,553
    gdphoto wrote: »
    Anyway, so far I think they sound good. Do cables need to break in?

    And he opens the next can of worms.....

    *ducks for cover*
    INCOMING!!!!!

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Technically best speaker wire is NO SPEAKER WIRE!

    Active powered speakers FTW!

    Wonder what kind of wire (if any) they have in them?
    Anyone open up a pair of the active, wireless KEF LS50s?
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    edited December 2018
    tonyb wrote: »
    Mikey, give your wife my number so I can properly school her on gifts for an audiophile. If she continues on the same path, for your Birthday your going to get bags of rocks for your cables. :)

    BaHahahahaha! She’s doing good my friend, got a chainsaw for my bday in October, and an axe for Christmas. Lol just in case she tries to make me sell all my gear for kids! :wink:
    2 channel:
    Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
    Theater:
    Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables.

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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Technically best speaker wire is NO SPEAKER WIRE!

    Active powered speakers FTW!

    Wonder what kind of wire (if any) they have in them?
    Anyone open up a pair of the active, wireless KEF LS50s?
    8u2w7ufb6639.png


    I have never had to open mine up.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    erniejade wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Technically best speaker wire is NO SPEAKER WIRE!

    Active powered speakers FTW!

    Wonder what kind of wire (if any) they have in them?
    Anyone open up a pair of the active, wireless KEF LS50s?
    8u2w7ufb6639.png


    I have never had to open mine up.

    No reason that you would -- other than curiosity. I'll bet they're not wired with, umm, MIT Cable. Or Audioquest. Or maybe even Monster.
    Actually, I reckon it's all PCB trace based on the graphic I posted -- but a real photo of the innards would be most interesting, from my perspective, since the LS50 family seem to be held in fairly high regard in most circles.

    :|
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,894
    Here's a similar (???) KEF loudspeaker (of which I've never heard, in full disclosure -- and which looks to be a desktop/computer "monitor") that I just stumbled across*:

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    Is that zip cord I espy in there? :/

    source: https://darko.audio/2014/11/kef-x300a-wireless-powered-loudspeaker-review/

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    * Don't get me wrong - I am not comparing this thing to an LS50 (wireless or otherwise) and, for all I know, it might be a piece of absolute junk!
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