Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    DK makes an eloquent argument to support this but so do those who support faith-healing as a cure for cancer.

    Faith has nothing to do with the improvement in the reproduction of sound we are discussing. I don't believe anyone here is saying they base their findings on faith. We simply install and listen to a variety of cables.
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    . . . it is unfortunate that forums such as this are used to promote them, instead of debunking them . . .

    What ??? Forum members aren't allowed to have and express their opinions?
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    What is Polk Audio's official position on this?

    You might have missed the thread, but Polk used to produce higher quality, higher priced cables.
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    I would like to see the peanut gallery stay quiet and allow for some intelligent discourse on this.

    So those who disagree with your opinion are the "peanut gallery" and only your anti high-line cable agenda is to be allowed?

    I've always gotten great advice here. I'm sorry you haven't. Why don't you cut the negative rhetoric, settle in, and try to improve the sound of your system instead of bashing those who do, because that's what this forum is really about.
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    It is very clear that most of the posters in this forum beleive that line cords, ICs and speaker wires have a dramatic effect on the sound of their equipment. Just because they are a majority it doesn't make them correct however. It is just amazing that this dramatic effect can't be demonstared with DBTing.

    I don't say they are making up this belief or they are trying to fool people, I just politely ask how can this be? Can you demonstrate it or expalin it based on electrical laws. Their response is to call me names and snicker and refer me to web sites of companies that sell these wires.

    Doesn't that response tell you something dear reader?

    Anyway the debate if you can call it that has run it's course unless there are new names to call me or some new data to demonstrate their experience with wires?

    You can beleive what you want about wires and if it helps you enjoy music that's great. That's what is all about - having fun listening to music on your system.

    I'm glad for you all of you.

    My suggest for the name of the haters club would "Logic".

    The beauty of the laws of electrical engineering to me is that every thing electrical can be summarized as a mixture/combination of resistance, capacitance and inductance. There are simple and complex laws and formulas that predict the performance of these circuits. Many smart people have been trying to understand and make electrical things for you to use. Just don't let vodoo electrical BS confuse you.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited April 2009
    bikezappa wrote: »
    It is very clear that most of the posters in this forum beleive that line cords, ICs and speaker wires have a dramatic effect on the sound of their equipment. Just because they are a majority it doesn't make them correct however. It is just amazing that this dramatic effect can't be demonstared with DBTing.

    I don't say they are making up this belief or they are trying to fool people, I just politely ask how can this be? Can you demonstrate it or expalin it based on electrical laws. Their response is to call me names and snicker and refer me to web sites of companies that sell these wires.

    Doesn't that response tell you something dear reader?

    Anyway the debate if you can call it that has run it's course unless there are new names to call me or some new data to demonstrate their experience with wires?

    You can beleive what you want about wires and if it helps you enjoy music that's great. That's what is all about - having fun listening to music on your system.

    I'm glad for you all of you.

    My suggest for the name of the haters club would "Logic".

    The beauty of the laws of electrical engineering to me is that every thing electrical can be summarized as a mixture/combination of resistance, capacitance and inductance. There are simple and complex laws and formulas that predict the performance of these circuits. Many smart people have been trying to understand and make electrical things for you to use. Just don't let vodoo electrical BS confuse you.

    Look, I don't know how it works for you, but I have a 28X28 finished area of walk my out basement that comprises my home office and my "man cave"

    One 28' wall contains 2 complete rigs driving tweaked Polk SDA-2B's and tweaked Polk SDA SRS 2's. When I say tweaked, I mean new Sonicaps, resistors, RDO198-1's, Mortite and Dynamat, Cardas connectors and silver wire SDA interconnects. No they are not 10K speakers, but the sound is very good and revealing. Fortunately, the music side of the room allows for perfect placement of the SDA's and my favorite leather recliner.

    I have several tape decks, cd players and turntables and an assortment or speaker cables and interconnects that I can easily change out.

    I'm very connected to how the system sounds as I listen to music 8 to 10 hours per day while in the office, so I've had thousands of hours to swap components in and out. I swap a component, and then work with the music is in the background.

    When I get sucked away from my desk chair and into that recliner, reaching for the remote to kick up the volume, with a big grin on my face and the hair on the back of my neck standing up, I know I've found a new component that's a keeper. That's how I tested 7 different main speaker cables to get to what many might consider the crazy priced **** I'm enjoying today.

    I guess it would be nice to have some kind of electronic meter that does it for you, but that would sure take the fun out of what is after all, just a wonderful hobby.

    Maybe it's like a painting where the artist is never satisfied with the first layer of paint. We eventually craft "masterpiece" sound that many appreciate, but there is no technical recipe to define it. It's our own unique creation.


    PS.: It's a bit ironic, but when I started I was skeptical too. I was gifted or spent thousands of dollars climbing the "cable ladder" to get to the cables I have in play today. One of the senior members in the group shared where he thought the real improvements began before I started. I ended up just one rung above that initial recommendation.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,398
    edited April 2009
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    a wonderful hobby.

    +1000.

    Naysayers and closed minded EE's read my signature. THAT is what it's all about.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    "The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Wow. This was spoken by an internationally esteemed physicist who has spent decades contributing some of the most innovative high end audio amplifier designs ever created. Seems like, with the quality and quantity of test equipment he has, he would be using his vast knowledge and experience to quantify everything. Seems like that would help him sell more amplifiers.

    The simple truth is that there are many types of electrical phenomena that can't be reduced to simple gross measurements of resistance, inductance and capacitance. Truly knowledgeable individuals understand that a flow of electrons through a conductor is primarily interacting with that conductor on the molecular and atomic (quantum) level. In order to get the "whole story" of a cable's or component's performance, we would need to measure a signal's interaction with a cable or component at the quantum level in addition to the gross or macro level.

    It is interesting, and telling, that you never, ever, ever, ever hear or read someone from the naysayers cult say something like the following:
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    When I get sucked away from my desk chair and into that recliner, reaching for the remote to kick up the volume, with a big grin on my face and the hair on the back of my neck standing up, I know I've found a new component that's a keeper.

    I can definitely relate. In my case, the more resolving my audio system became, the more of a distraction it became. I get sucked away from the desk in my home office just to listen to a favorite song or sometimes just a particular part of a song. I get sucked away, for just a few minutes, from preparing a meal in the kitchen to go listen to that clean, well defined, articulate rumbling, grumbling bass growl that I like. I sometimes stay up way past bedtime to listen to a few more songs.

    Now, if I were constantly reading naysayers saying similar things about their noisy, low performance amps, preamps and cables, I would think there was some validity to the premise that you can obtain top notch sound with bottom notch money. But I never read such. All I read from the naysayer cultists is that those who have invested in quality sound reproduction equipment are wasting money, are stupid, are deluded, etc., and that all the manufacturers of such equipment are snake oil purveyors.

    So strong is the bitterness of the naysayer's sour grapes is that they can't even confine their venom to appropriate discussions. If we are talking about speaker cables (this thread), they pop in with invective about $500 power cords. If we are talking about subwoofers, they pop in with sarcasm about $400 power cords:
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Only if I connect them with $400 power cables. :)

    Pitiful.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,398
    edited April 2009
    The thing is even my modest little office rig I replaced "zip" cord with my own DIY version of Shotgun style constructed Canare wire with the same banana plugs and heard a very subtle but marked improvement in sound stage, bass response and guess what else......over long periods of listening the fatigue was almost non existent.

    So while you naysayers and closed minded cult leaders are livid at the fact people spend so much of THEIR OWN MONEY on higher priced cables w/no difference whatsoever according to your cult......even modest priced DIY cables in a very low budget system (comparatively) differences are apparent. Imagine what differences can be heard with even better cable on even better resolving systems.


    Oh wait...............you cable naysaysers can't imagine that because you are unwilling to even try it.

    H9

    P.s. For the record my office rig is this:

    Re-badged Dared MP5 integrated hybrid tube amp (13wpc)
    AMC DAC 8 digital to analog converter
    FLAC files played from the computer
    Harmonic Technologies Toslink cable
    Signal Cable Analog II I/C's
    Polk Audio Monitor 5B's (circa 1986) w/Solen's; Mills and RD0's
    DIY Shotgun (double runs) Canare 4S8 cables with banana plugs.
    Total cost (minus the computer) used <$500 and I can hear differences in I/C's and speaker cables.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2009
    Cable advice from xcapri is like getting sex advice from a 40 year old virgin.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    [QUOTE=DarqueKnight;

    The simple truth is that there are many types of electrical phenomena that can't be reduced to simple gross measurements of resistance, inductance and capacitance.
    Pitiful.[/QU

    Wrong. The frequency domain of audio electronic circuits are well understood and predictable.

    Yes it is pitiful for a EE to say that.

    DK can't prove there are dramatic differences with any tests. Why not if it is dramatic?

    DK's claims violate EE circuit laws for line cords and fuses.

    DK says this is a speaker cable thread again. Gee wizz I think about every topic under the sun has been brought up on this thread and now he wants to restrict topics.

    Ok round and round we go. No new information.

    DK I would very interested in a quote or a paper that states or comments that line cords or fuses can change the sound of a system from an independent EE organization that has been here for 50 years.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    It is a wonderful hobby, so what is the point of a $500 power cable with no, or at most questionable improvement to our audio listening pleasure? The only person who gains is the seller of such a product.

    Using your logic, the Bose Wave radio would be the height of audio reproduction. :rolleyes:
    Now you can learn to organize your ignorance.

    Hilarious, coming from the queen of ignorance.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    edited April 2009
    The frequency domain of audio electronic circuits are well understood and predictable.

    So Peter, are you saying that one can predict how a piece of audio gear is going to sound mearly by the frequency domain of audio electronic circuits?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,673
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Hmm who brought the subject up in this post first?
    Dont bring it up and cry about it later my friend.

    Geez, are you really THAT stupid!?! Rhetorical question.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    I have unsubscribed from this thread because it has gotten venomously repetitious and thus the entertainment value is now equal to the information value, which is zero.

    I have also upgraded the status of certain naysayer cultists in order to provide a more efficient forum viewing experience.

    Carry on.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,398
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    . They will believe anything!

    I believe what I hear................you should try it sometime. You might actually get some enjoyment out of this hobby if you actually took the time to experience things for yourself. Myself, I agree with many on here not because they say so.........but because I have experienced the differences myself.

    I just had some very, very expensive cables here for demo (I/C's and speaker cables) retail around $1700 or more. I have cables that cost about $700 or so when new and are about 6-7 years old.

    Guess what???? I preferred the lesser expensive older cables in my system. According to part of the logic of your naysayer cult I should have preferred the more expensive cables because they cost more.

    You are really, really dense.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote:
    I have also upgraded the status of certain naysayer cultists in order to provide a more efficient forum viewing experience.

    Carry on.

    What took you so long? The only problem I have is when some posters use the quote feature when responding to the trolls. It negates the usefulness of the IL somewhat. (note: I did a double blind test and I can quantitatively measure the decreased value of the IL at 76.43879% - I will be publishing a paper in the near future).
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited April 2009
    One question before I abandon this thread...has anyone ever defined a Spearker? I looked, but I may have missed it. Of course one of the IL posters could have tried to define it and I would have not seen it unless they were quoted...although in those cases I try to go into manual IL mode.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    I am still waiting for the Xster to say something intelligent... Anything inteligent...
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,796
    edited April 2009
    Don't hold your breath, Ben.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2009
    ? of the day.....


    How many dicks can post in one thread?
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    OK we give you actually hands on experience, and you search the internet for data that "supports" your argument.
    Still waiting...

    Edit: Trust your ears fool
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  • a1adjz
    a1adjz Posts: 32
    edited April 2009
    I am new to all this but, I will say this about IC's and speaker cables. I was a nay sayer about the topic before I took some advice from some of the senior members of this forum and I am so glad I did. I originally had very inexpensive cables. I then moved to AQ DB's and ended up with KC's . I started with AQ type 4 and moved up to Gibraltar and the differences were very apperent to me. The overall sound was smoother and much less fatigueing to listen to as opposed to the other cables. I may not be an engineer however, I am a critical listener and I could appreciate the differences. I didn't pay a huge amount for my cables, I bought them used from friends and other members.
    Main theater : Pan 54 G10, Onkyo 805, UPA 7, Carver TFM 45, Sony BDP 350, Polk SDA 2 s, Polk CSi A6, Polk RTi4 (X 4 ), Velo CHT 10 (X 2), APC H15.

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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2009
    I love it how, because Polk decided to place labels for post count, the noobs seem to believe they are, in fact, true.:rolleyes:
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • Hillbilly61
    Hillbilly61 Posts: 702
    edited April 2009
    ND13 wrote: »
    I love it how, because Polk decided to place labels for post count, the noobs seem to believe they are, in fact, true.:rolleyes:

    Hey, hey, hey! Postwise, I'm a n00b and I've seen a lot of dumb **** said by high post count CP members. :eek: As a n00b, I have license to say dumb ****, take a know it all stance on all issues and generally be obnoxious! :p
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2009
    Okay, Okay, the Noobs that seem to believe that post count matters....BETTER!!!

    Plus I saw your post, so that should tell you that you're not on my ignore list.

    I like Hillbillies.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited April 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    So Peter, are you saying that one can predict how a piece of audio gear is going to sound mearly by the frequency domain of audio electronic circuits?

    No I'm not.

    The sound in the room is caused by mechanically moving air.

    There is an electrical to mechanical transfer of energy that is always problematic at best. Grin.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    OK great minds. Here is a fun example. I'll list it so it doesn't confuse simple folk.

    Two speakers(with me so far?Good.)

    Both are very accurate to +-1db from 35hz-20khz

    One set of speakers has aluminum drivers, and the second set has paper and textile drivers(still simple enough?).

    OK I will restate that both sets of speakers have the same exact frequency response(still with me here?).

    Please tell me that both speakers sound identical because of scientific data they measure exactly alike.

    OK please go slap and sterilize yourself.
    Thanks again for some of the infinite wisdom posted by great minds.
    You guys are just too damn easy. ROTFL
    Ben

    Again something intelligent please.
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  • Terra S
    Terra S Posts: 74
    edited April 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    OK please go slap and sterilize yourself.
    Thanks again for some of the infinite wisdom posted by great minds.
    You guys are just too damn easy. ROTFL
    Ben

    Again something intelligent please.

    It's rather entertaining reading all the "non" intelligent comments! :rolleyes:
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited April 2009
    Terra S wrote: »
    It's rather entertaining reading all the "non" intelligent comments! :rolleyes:


    Yeah...from both sides...;)

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    Terra S wrote: »
    It's rather entertaining reading all the "non" intelligent comments! :rolleyes:

    OK please entertain some of your wisdom here.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited April 2009
    Please reply I am so anticipating responses.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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  • tcrossma
    tcrossma Posts: 1,301
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    What is Polk Audio's official position on this? With all their engineering expertise in audio equipment, would they recommend this as an upgrade for their products? I would like to see the peanut gallery stay quiet and allow for some intelligent discourse on this.

    I'm pretty they have a position to some degree, since this is from their Support / FAQ page:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/education/showanswer.php?question_num=80

    A quote:
    Your choice of wire can effect the sound quality of your system and we recommend better-quality branded wire such as Monster Cable, Kimber Kable, AudioQuest or the like.
    We recommend that you get stranded cable that is specifically designed for use with speakers, not just lamp cord or (heaven forbid) telephone wire.

    I read this as: Not all wire is created equal and it does matter what you get.
    Speakers: Polk LSi15
    Pre: Adcom GFP-750 with HT Bypass
    Amp: Pass Labs X-150
    CD/DVD Player: Classe CDP-10
    Interconnects: MIT Shortgun S3 Pro XLR
    Speaker cables: MIT MH-750 bi-wire
    TT:Micro Seiki DD-35
    Cartridge:Denon DL-160
    Phono Pre:PS Audio GCPH
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