Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    C'mon...now. I know trolls can be annoying. But are they really any worse than ants at a picnic? Is being a pest worthy of death?



    mad.gifI have several cell phone videos of you stomping some poor hungry ants who dared infringe on your al fresco dining experiences. Were those pests worthy of death?

    I don't think you can compare stomping insects to drowning a...tro...hmmmm....maybe Keiko a point.

    Yea... It's more fun to dump water on them and watch them try to swim around to dry land.... or burn them with a magnifying glass.
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    Playstation 3
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    Are we to understand that you, by this statement, are admitting to a thus far undeclared fetish for some part of a_mattison's anatomy? If so (if I may be so bold), which part would that be?

    This is one of the pitfalls of coming into a conversation at the end.

    If you had been paying attention you would know that I am not one of the "haters" a_mattison is asking to "bite" him.;)

    I hope this explanation will suffice. Let me know if you require further clarification.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    a_mattison wrote: »
    Yea... It's more fun to dump water on them and watch them try to swim around to dry land.... or burn them with a magnifying glass.

    Trolls are a masochistic species. They thrive on pain and humiliation. The activities you describe would actually be "fun" to them. Enjoy.
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    Have you heard the Signal Ultra cables, DK? They really are pretty sweet. I haven't tried a great deal of cables in my rig, but they are definately a step up from the Canare. H9 had some MIT's at our last get together but we never worked them into my rig.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    I haven't tried, or heard, any of the Signal speaker cables. I currently use Signal power cables and Analog II interconnects in my HT. I also used Signal Silver Resolution XLR interconnects in my two channel system prior to upgrading to Audioquest Sky.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,945
    edited April 2009
    There was reference in some other thread about other forums "talking" about Polkies and the aura of the sheep stuff. That may have something to do with it.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    I can only speculate as to where and why all these individuals have decided to show their asses on CP at once.

    1. They are starved for attention.
    2. They have gotten kicked out of other forums.
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  • seafire
    seafire Posts: 459
    edited April 2009
    After reading that some members had actually posted complaints against me the following.
    I came to this forum site as a owner of Polk speakers in my HT setup.From the beginning it was obvious that a certain"pack mentality" rules here.I can name most of this pack but in the interests of the forum I'm not even going to go there.In this thread the heading is '' speaker cable fact or myth".I responded by stating that there are alternatives to expensive cable by making your own with cat 5 or a combo of cat 5 and thick gauge multi thread.This statement was met with a barrage of insults , name calling and general slander mostly directed at me directly.At one stage I was so frustrated that I threatened to phone Polk head office.After some careful thought I decided not too as this was not in the interests of this forum.This pack of individuals wait till I appear the pm each other and the next thing the insults start flying here.If you scroll back I have been called names and insulted more than 30 times in this thread alone! Furthermore I am not alone as many members have pm'd and emailed me with the same complaint privately!Never have I reported anyone! THANK GOODNESS FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE WITH A FOND SPIRIT FOR HEALTHY DEBATE. I FOR ONE WILL NEVER JOIN THE PACK MENTALITY!
    Seafire
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited April 2009
    seafire wrote: »
    After reading that some members had actually posted complaints against me the following.
    I came to this forum site as a owner of Polk speakers in my HT setup.From the beginning it was obvious that a certain"pack mentality" rules here.I can name most of this pack but in the interests of the forum I'm not even going to go there.In this thread the heading is '' speaker cable fact or myth".I responded by stating that there are alternatives to expensive cable by making your own with cat 5 or a combo of cat 5 and thick gauge multi thread.This statement was met with a barrage of insults , name calling and general slander mostly directed at me directly.At one stage I was so frustrated that I threatened to phone Polk head office.After some careful thought I decided not too as this was not in the interests of this forum.This pack of individuals wait till I appear the pm each other and the next thing the insults start flying here.If you scroll back I have been called names and insulted more than 30 times in this thread alone! Furthermore I am not alone as many members have pm'd and emailed me with the same complaint privately!Never have I reported anyone! THANK GOODNESS FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE WITH A FOND SPIRIT FOR HEALTHY DEBATE. I FOR ONE WILL NEVER JOIN THE PACK MENTALITY!
    Seafire

    Another with the, people are sending me PM's stuff....hilarious!!!

    The paranoia/conspiracy angle is always a good one too.

    It doesn't matter how often you try to paint yourself as some sort of victim, it's blatantly obvious that your only purpose here is to troll, so please stop fooling yourself. I saw thru you along time ago.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2009
    Where we are now:
    seafire wrote: »
    I came to this forum site as a owner of Polk speakers in my HT setup.

    seafire wrote: »
    THANK GOODNESS FOR THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE WITH A FOND SPIRIT FOR HEALTHY DEBATE.


    Where we started out:
    seafire wrote: »
    Ok been around this hobby for 25 years.Most of this speaker cable -interconect stuff is ****!!

    seafire wrote: »
    YOU GUYS HAVE SOME SERIOUS TWEAKING TO DO BECAUSE THIS MEANS THAT SIGNAL TRAVELING FROM YOUR CD ON **** PCB TRACK THEN GOES THROUGH YOUR 250USD+ INTERCONNECT ONLY TO RESUME ITS SIGNAL ON ANOTHER CHINESE **** PCB TRACK UNTIL THE SPEAKER OUTS HAHAHA THEN WHEN IT REACHES YOUR SPEAKER AFTER TRAVELING THROUGH YOUR 1000USD + SPEAKER CABLE IT RUNS THROUGH YOUR KOREAN PASSIVE CROSSOVER WITH MEASLY TRACKS TO YOUR SPEAKERS WITH YOUR SPEAKER MANUFACTURERS **** CABLE TO THE SPEAKER HAHAHA GIVE YOURSELVES A BREAK GUYS FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!

    Who here agrees that "healthy debate" begins with insulting the intelligence of the members? For example, we are characterized above as using $1,000 power cords with cheap, low quality electronics. Does anyone here do that? Speak up.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    ... I must conclude by stating that you, Sir, are nothing less than a downright cad and an utter scoundrel!

    Balderdash and falderal!!!
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
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  • seafire
    seafire Posts: 459
    edited April 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Where we are now:







    Where we started out:






    Who here agrees that "healthy debate" begins with insulting the intelligence of the members? For example, we are characterized above as using $1,000 power cords with cheap, low quality electronics. Does anyone here do that? Speak up.
    Like I said
    FOOD FOR THOUGHT ;)
    AKA Throwing down the gauntlet :)
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  • seafire
    seafire Posts: 459
    edited April 2009
    Ok I will own up.
    My entrance was a little brash to say the least.I didn't realize this forum had such a strong tradition with regards to newbies etc.Was actually stirring the pot to get some healthy debate going.But come on guys, some of the name calling is not in good spirit.And as far as playing the victim not true.I 'm a big boy and can handle myself.Was just stating the fact.
    ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited April 2009
    seafire wrote:
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    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,681
    edited April 2009
    seafire wrote: »
    Ok I will own up.
    My entrance was a little brash to say the least.I didn't realize this forum had such a strong tradition with regards to newbies etc.Was actually stirring the pot to get some healthy debate going.But come on guys, some of the name calling is not in good spirit.And as far as playing the victim not true.I 'm a big boy and can handle myself.Was just stating the fact.
    ;)


    A little brash? If you had said that cables matter, but you can get there for
    a lot less with a cat 5 DIY, we could accept that. But no, crap in the middle of
    dance hall floor and expect a warm greeting? I've looked at using cat 5
    before, but found another cost effective(heavily discounted) cable.
    There's healthy debate, and then there's not so healthy debate.
    Like the "all properly designed amps should sound the same" guy.
    What amps was he listening to? Make your point and move on.
    I'm sure most of us thought you were one of those "banned" guys
    logging back in under a new name.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,681
    edited April 2009
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Using $1000 power cords in a home with expensive electronics is still a waste of money. That is the point that the rational have tried to make. Seafire hit it on the head with the pack mentality on here. It is unfortunate and I would expect better.

    Darqueknight does in fact make extremely eloquent arguments and is mostly rational in his comments (although he does make some unfounded assumptions, as we all sometimes do). The others typically chime with excessive rudeness and crudeness that doesn't contribute at all and causes the discussion to deteriorate. Enough said. Thank me.


    Or ignore you. I won't be buying any $1k cords. But that doesn't
    mean I don't think it wil make a difference. Just not a good sense buy
    in my sytems. You and Seafire maybe could also scoot down to the
    Porsche dealership and save countless people from wasting their money.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2009
    Keiko, being able to watch sunset over Waikiki beach sipping Mai Tai everyday should allow you to ignore everything else...:)

    I used to sit across that tiny cafe at the Hilton Hawaiian Village, across from the pool, overlooking the beach, enjoying the band till the sun set. What a life!
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2009
    I went back to that spot in 2007, was there in 2001, and 2006. In 2001, I lived in for 6 months at the Hilton and it was the highlight of my traveling, life seems a lot simpler back then (before 911).

    I'll hold on to your promise, hopefully sooner.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited April 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    Congrats 79 Ford. You, seamonkey, C3P0, videodrome and JVC are all in a league of your own. You GO boy! ;)

    If I forgot to mention any of the other trolls, I apologize. It's late here and I'm still feeling a bit of jet lag. :o

    Let's not forget jinjuku.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Report the troll.
    What troll? what are you talking about? Any opinion that doesn't suit you should be considered a troll? The bullying around and totally irrelevant comments to the discussion at hand are in my opinion the trolls and actually what should be reported but what would be the sense as you need some that actually cares!
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,674
    edited April 2009
    C3PO sighting.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    C3PO sighting.

    . . . and he's playing the victim card.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    Flash21 wrote: »
    I can't believe 5 of you posted useless, pointless complaints after seafire posted something actually addressing the subject of the thread (whatever your opinion of it's accuracy)...you guys are just as big a problem in this thread as he is IMHO...
    They are in fact the BIG and ONLY problem in this thread! Take away all the bullying, irrelevant comments and insults and this thread might actually be of some use. The problem, this is Polk's forum and those people are actually Polk's customer and it might be hard for Polk to actually sanction the bull that is going around!
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    C3PO sighting.
    This is one example of a post that is totally irrelevant to this discussion and not providing anything but a simple waiste of server space! People like that, you have to wonder where they are coming from, twilight zone or what?????????
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2009
    3PO your last three posts have been "irrelevant" to the discussion concerning the title of this thread so again I tell thee, "stop trying to police our club, you are doing a lousy job of it."
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    ....With this thread? Pffft!...

    If you don't know what I'm referring too, go back and review the entire thread again.
    The question is then simple; Why do you even bother participating in this discussion???? Matter of fact, if one reviews the entire thread they'll find the negative comes from the exact same people he is talking about. A discussion is about to share views and agree to disagree, NOT an attitude of "MY WAY or NO WAY" which has been displayed by the so called pack!!
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited April 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    an attitude of "MY WAY or NO WAY" which has been displayed by the so called pack!!

    Yes, you are correct the above attitude has been the norm for Seafire & Xcapri and now you. See post # 1121.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,403
    edited April 2009
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    This is one example of a post that is totally irrelevant to this discussion and not providing anything but a simple waiste of server space! People like that, you have to wonder where they are coming from, twilight zone or what?????????

    Hmmmmmm.......This is one example of a post that is totally irrelevant to this discussion and not providing anything but a simple waisteI]sic[/I of server space!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited April 2009
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Hmmmmmm.......This is one example of a post that is totally irrelevant to this discussion and not providing anything but a simple waiste of server space!

    Hmmmmmm.......This another example of a post that is totally irrelevant to this discussion and not providing anything but a simple waiste of server space!

    edit... rather than creating another post, I'd just like to publically apologise to Ricardo for assisting in nearly overtaking the World Class EMO thread.
    HT
    RTi70 mains
    CSi30 center
    RTi28 Rears
    Velodyne CHT-12
    H/K AVR-247
    ADCOM GFA-7000
    Samsung PN58B860
    Playstation 3
    2-Channel
    Polk Audio LSi15's
    Rotel RCD-1072
    Nakamichi CA-5 Pre
    ADCOM GFA-555
    Signal Cable Analog II IC's
    Signal Ultra Bi-Wire Speaker Cables
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited April 2009
    Good Going Guys! It's only 9 posts away from my favorite "Ricardo's EMOTIVA Thread"

    This needs to stop or I swear the EMU will suffer. LOL :p
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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