$2.94 a gallon and dropping

heiney9

cmy330go wrote: »

What year is it? Chances are it's got electronically controlled ignition which will **** timing to avoid pinging or knocking. It won't hurt the engine, but it will just make it pretty sluggish.

I one time had to put standard gas in my Lexus GS430. The car ran just fine. It's just that it felt like I lost about 70hp.

Yes most cars (if they are newer) have adaptive timing, but they can only **** or advance so much based on the manufacture tuning parameters. So you can get pinging if you use lower octane fuel simply because the manufacturer tuned the ECU with only so much adaptive capability. Some cars are better than others.

Generally the more performance oriented the car is the more picky it can be about octane. My car is chipped and the chip is optimized for 93 octane fuel w/ a 10.5:1 compression ratio. In the dog days of summer when it's hot and humid if I use anything less under hard acceleration I get pinging, so all Summer I use 93. Later in the year towards Winter I use 91 octane. Saving .10c a gallon isn't a big deal so I almost always fill up with 93 octane Shell Ultimate.

Each cars ignition, timing and fuel maps are different and change based on load and atmospheric conditions. Bottom line is if you are getting pinging and your plugs, wires, etc are in good condition you need to bump up the octane of your fuel or investigate why it suddenly started pinging when it didn't before.

Delicate electronic parts and sensors do fail (like knock sensors) so it's best to have that stuff checked out if you have problems.

H9

thebluemonkey

heiney9 wrote: »

Illinois is still at $3.55 most places. Now OPEC says they don't like oil being below $100 so they are considering cutting production. It never ends!!!!!!!!!!

If that isnt a reason to start really doing something about altenative energy i dont know what is.

audiobliss

thebluemonkey wrote: »

If that isnt a reason to start really doing something about altenative energy i dont know what is.

Or tapping into our oil reserves here at home!

Kex

audiobliss wrote: »

Or tapping into our oil reserves here at home!

We didn't fix the oil problem after the energy crisis in the 70s or the 80s ... perhaps it's time to stop ignoring the warnings with short sighted solutions that will probably not fix anything in the short to mid term (but lets not turn this into a political discussion)?

Dennis Gardner

$2.89 here, shame on me for being happy about it. They sure know how to condition us don't they.....

exalted512

bobman1235 wrote: »

Also, all this entitlement attitude that we deserve fuel under 3 bucks a gallon is kinda funny. Gas has been vastly underpriced for us in America for a long time, it was bound to catch up with the rest of the world. I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not delusional enough to think it's so unreasonable. We've just all been spoiled by cheap gas for too long.

100% correct. Gas is really only like 70 cents more expensive/gallon than in the 1960s. There was a long, long time where we were paying a lot less than what we were if you take into account inflation rates over the years.
-Cody

Lowell_M

heiney9 wrote: »

Yes most cars (if they are newer) have adaptive timing, but they can only **** or advance so much based on the manufacture tuning parameters. So you can get pinging if you use lower octane fuel simply because the manufacturer tuned the ECU with only so much adaptive capability. Some cars are better than others.

Generally the more performance oriented the car is the more picky it can be about octane. My car is chipped and the chip is optimized for 93 octane fuel w/ a 10.5:1 compression ratio. In the dog days of summer when it's hot and humid if I use anything less under hard acceleration I get pinging, so all Summer I use 93. Later in the year towards Winter I use 91 octane. Saving .10c a gallon isn't a big deal so I almost always fill up with 93 octane Shell Ultimate.

Each cars ignition, timing and fuel maps are different and change based on load and atmospheric conditions. Bottom line is if you are getting pinging and your plugs, wires, etc are in good condition you need to bump up the octane of your fuel or investigate why it suddenly started pinging when it didn't before.

Delicate electronic parts and sensors do fail (like knock sensors) so it's best to have that stuff checked out if you have problems.

H9

+1 here. The engine in my car has quite high compression (in the 10.something:1 range) and requires 92 or higher octane. If I put anything lower in the tank, gas mileage and power go out the window. I don't mind an extra couple dollars a tank to get the power that I paid for in the first place with the car...plus I get some of that back in gas mileage.

SKsolutions

3.39 for knock and ping.

Strong Bad

ND13 wrote: »

At under $90 a barrel, shouldn't gas be well under $3 just about everywhere? At over $140 a barrel gas was right around $4.09. It always seems to adjust upward a lot faster than adjusting downward.

I was just wondering the same thing. Oil dropped below $80 a barrel today. It should be $1.00 a gallon cheaper than what it is.

My **** hurts!

treitz3

The politicians are too consumed with greed and corruption to concern themselves with greed and corruption on a lower level.

It seems "we" are on a back burner and that we had better get used to it. That's my take, at least.

danger boy

$3.49 here... and dropping. i think it'll stop dropping pretty soon though.

why is it that the economy is bad, and yet gas prices are dropping? we're still using the same amount of gas we were a year ago.. when it was way over $4.00

heiney9

danger boy wrote: »

we're still using the same amount of gas we were a year ago.. when it was way over $4.00

No, demand has fallen. Maybe you are using the same amount but on average demand is down; atleast that what they tell us.

Jstas

danger boy wrote: »

$3.49 here... and dropping. i think it'll stop dropping pretty soon though.

why is it that the economy is bad, and yet gas prices are dropping? we're still using the same amount of gas we were a year ago.. when it was way over $4.00

Economic slow down means less people buying stuff. The less stuff being bought, the less stuff that has to replenish stock in the stores. If less stuff is going to the stores, less fuel is being burned to transport it to the stores.

The average consumer buying gas for a commuter vehicle is not nearly as big a dent in demand as things like trucking companies, shipping companies, train companies, airlines and so on.

Mike Kozak

cmy330go wrote: »

What year is it? Chances are it's got electronically controlled ignition which will **** timing to avoid pinging or knocking. It won't hurt the engine, but it will just make it pretty sluggish.

I one time had to put standard gas in my Lexus GS430. The car ran just fine. It's just that it felt like I lost about 70hp.

It is a 1992 Touring Sedan DeVille with a 4.9L V-8, needs the good juice. currently 48000 original miles in pristine condition

goingganzo

well when gas is $3 a gallon 20 extra cents for 92+ octane is not bad.

marvda1

funny, it seems as the stock market drops so does the price of gas.

george daniel

just filled up at "racetrac",, 3.68.9 gallon--87 octane---georgia

Polkitup2

$2.87 just now in Minnesota.

NotaSuv

2.94 yesterday when I posted first thread................today down to 2.87.....one year ago it was at 2.76 here...... at this rate it will be lower than a year ago prices....no complaints here..now I am just trying to rent a large tanker or 2 to fill and bring to the South Eastern US to cash in on those high prices

wow
Polkitup2 beat me by mere seconds LOL

Early B.

Just got back from the Chevron gas station here in metro Atlanta. Premium was $4.69! Regular was $3.75. Across the street premium was only $4.15. Not sure why the huge price difference.

ND13

Got 87 for $3.05 in Indy this afternoon.

heiney9

$3.49 for the cheap stuff in Illinois. Of course we have the most corrupt governor in the U.S.

NotaSuv

Keiko wrote: »

3.87, 3.99 and 4.09 here yesterday when I filled up. I don't care what anyone says about how we've been paying less than other countries, yadda yadda yadda. These oil companies/OPEC and affilliates(for lack of another word which I won't use here) are a bunch of greedy ****. 'F' em' all. :mad:

Yes my friend there is a price to pay for livin in PARADISE

funny thing is gas has always been refined on the islands costs the same price as the mainland but always higher per gallon than the mainland....I remember gas was more expensive on Farrington near the refineries than it was on the windward side ....go figure

NotaSuv

LOL 2.79 this morning I saw on the way to work, down another 5 cents from yesterday....

bobman1235

Keiko wrote: »

I'd like to soak some corporate testicles in kerosene, then light em.

:eek: Tell us how you really feel Keiko

Lowell_M

heiney9 wrote: »

$3.49 for the cheap stuff in Illinois. Of course we have the most corrupt governor in the U.S.

$3.39 for 88 this morning... I filled up with 93 for $3.55.

sucks2beme

Oil prices were driven by speculation. Gas prices were based on oil price
and refinery capacity. The gas guys haven't built any new refineries in
decades. Kinda like the electric market, not enough capacity=higher prices.
A little glitch and you're in trouble. And we've got more than a little glitch
in the gulf.

BAD ASP

I live in the northwest suburbs of Chicago in good old Cook County. On the way into work this morning Shell regular was $3.75 gallon.:mad:

Airplay355

3.19 here in Maine...it goes down a few cents every day...yesterday is was 3.24

exalted512

Tuesday it was 3.29, this morning it was 3.23 when I went to school. I needed to fill up but i was running late, so i didnt. got out of school and the price was 3.09. Chalked it up to being late is one of my best virtues.
-Cody