$2.94 a gallon and dropping

Sami

Looks like China's demand for oil is dropping drastically so even with the production cuts OPEC can't keep the price up.

mmadden28

When they say the price is down due to decreased demand, what demand are they including? Because my trip to work is just the same traffic mess as usual-no less cars ont he road around me. Or are thheyalso taking into acount air travel, and shipping, etc.??

Jstas

cmy330go wrote: »

Jersey is the same way. When I go through there I do all I can to avoid filling up. It's such a pain in the A.

If you're "going through" my state then you are likely on an Interstate or U.S. route. If you are on an Interstate and stop at a rest area, they are self-serve and usually have full-service pumps available also. If you are on a U.S. Route, you should just keep going and push your car out of the state if you have to rather than stop for gas here. Our gas hates you anyway. Keep in mind that it costs money to get out of NJ. It's part of our deterrent system. Works with reverse psychology. Or, extortion, kinda like the mob. But, if you are happening to push your vehicle out of NJ, the unscrupulous toll booth attendant may count your feet touching the ground as a 3rd axle and charge you the higher toll rates.

Also, since you are passing through, do it as quickly as possible. We have enough people here and we don't want any of you dang foreigners hanging around!






But **** and moan about our fueling laws all you want. I don't even have to get out of my car because some dude fills it up for me AND the gas here still costs less than what the rest of you suckers everywhere else are paying for self-serve!

For the record, it was $2.58 a gallon for regular this morning at the Sunoco down the street and I paid $2.72 for Ultra 93 yesterday.

Ricardo

$2.27 for regular today in Cincinnati

audiobliss

$2.35 here in Arkansas yesterday! Woohoo

rayslifecycle

I ride my bicycle........everywhere, everyday.........
but I did get a ride with a friend
to get to Baltimore for Polkfest......hahahaha

ND13

2.58 in New Tucky

F1nut

BTW, Oregon is GOOFY for NOT allowing self serve. What do you need, a state Journeyman's license in 'petroleum distribution'

Jersey is the same way. When I go through there I do all I can to avoid filling up. It's such a pain in the A.

What a hoot.

You guys must be too young to remember when all gas stations, nationwide, were full service. They filled your tank, washed your windows, checked your oil and if asked would even check the air in your tires. It was great! Self serve sucks, it's just a way of keeping the overhead down for the station owners and it's certainly not a service for the consumer.

Anyway, as John pointed out Jersey generally has the lowest prices of any other states around it and you don't have to get out of your car! Something to consider the next time.

m00npie

F1nut wrote: »

You guys must be too young to remember when all gas stations, nationwide, were full service. They filled your tank, washed your windows, checked your oil and if asked would even check the air in your tires.

I worked at a full service station while in high school doing all of the above jobs. That station has been forced out of business and replaced by a Mega Sheetz, Wawa and other wacky named eye-sores. I'm still trying to understand what’s so convenient about them. Perhaps it’s the $5.00 car wash offer that displays prior to asking me if I want my receipt.

mmadden28

I remember the days....
However NJ is BY LAW full service, but they don't offer (as long as I can remember) to check your oil-I think you have to ask for that, and its likely you have to pay $0.25 to get air in your tires (on your own by the way). NJ fuel taxes are lower than PA's, so the gas prices are lower.
Sucks; NJ stations pumps your gas but costs less, but in PA you pump your own and pay more.

By the way IIRC we're down to $2.77 around me.

Ricardo

$2.15 this morning. Could it get below $2.00????

NotaSuv

$2.07 here this morning and oil still droppin............just got back from chicago.. was $3.25 a gallon or higher there....

leroyjr1

$2.39 (cheapest) here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin

NotaSuv

Keiko wrote: »

I used to work at full service station also. Those were the days. Gas was under a buck back then.

We are still around 3.50 per gallon here on the islands. It's been going down, but slowly.
This is how to milk a Hawaiian I quess. [/QUOTE

Hows bout switching homes for awhile.....gas here is 2.07....have a huge fenced yard for your kids..... large rice cooker in kitchen......4 large bedrooms and a den, nice seperate room for 2 channel, large room for HT.
Snow blower filled with gas ready to roll.............
I know the windward side.... and know what ita like to be a haole

heiney9

$2.69 in Rockford, IL. :mad:

jeremie

$1.93 in some parts of missouri. Majority of missouri is 1.99 except the st. louis area.

Mike Kozak

2.79 for premium in Huntersville, NC

petrym

$2.32 for midgrade in Omaha area.

seeclear

I paid 2.21 last night in Woodland Park, Colorado. It has dropped .85 in just over a week here. Dropping every day. At this rate it will be below 2.00 by the weekend.

Airplay355

Still $2.53 here in Maine. I only put $10 or so in at a time because in the 4 days that it takes me to use that much gas the price will have dropped by another $.10.

Jstas

I saw 2.19 for regular and 2.39 for super this morning on the way to the train station.

I also saw a news story late last week that places in the midwest are already seeing gas in the 1.79 a gallon range for regular.

jdhdiggs

Those **** oil companies are just trying to screw us again by lowering the price... Those dispicable ****!

Jstas

Oh and about the full serve in NJ. Yeah, it's required by law for both safety reasons and taxation reasons. You won't get the full serve like you used to way back in the 50's and 60's. Most likely because most stations only have enough overhead to pay one dude to work the pumps and if they have a store, one dude to run the store. That's more than likely the owners being too cheap but when you have a "megastation" with 8 double-sided pumps and only one or two people to pump gas, they don't have the time for the service anymore.

Yeah, it's a drag but the nice thing is that I don't have to get out in the weather and mess around with a pump that every other ham-fisted, cretin of a mouth-breather messed up and fiddle with it while it steals my credit card and jambs up the handle. Nor do I have to go inside, guess how much gas my car is going to take, tell the guy at the counter that I need $25.30 cash on pump 6 and to please turn it on. I pull up to the station, tell the dude whether to fill it, what grade I need and cash or credit and away he goes, fillin' it up. I wait 5 minutes and when it's done, he comes back, pulls the filler, closes the tank, I hand him my cash and on my way I go. No weird stains on my clothes, no gas smell on my hands. Works out nice.

concealer404

$2.14 here. Crossing my fingers for under $2.

bobman1235

Jstas wrote: »

Oh and about the full serve in NJ. Yeah, it's required by law for both safety reasons and taxation reasons. You won't get the full serve like you used to way back in the 50's and 60's. Most likely because most stations only have enough overhead to pay one dude to work the pumps and if they have a store, one dude to run the store. That's more than likely the owners being too cheap but when you have a "megastation" with 8 double-sided pumps and only one or two people to pump gas, they don't have the time for the service anymore.

Yeah, it's a drag but the nice thing is that I don't have to get out in the weather and mess around with a pump that every other ham-fisted, cretin of a mouth-breather messed up and fiddle with it while it steals my credit card and jambs up the handle. Nor do I have to go inside, guess how much gas my car is going to take, tell the guy at the counter that I need $25.30 cash on pump 6 and to please turn it on. I pull up to the station, tell the dude whether to fill it, what grade I need and cash or credit and away he goes, fillin' it up. I wait 5 minutes and when it's done, he comes back, pulls the filler, closes the tank, I hand him my cash and on my way I go. No weird stains on my clothes, no gas smell on my hands. Works out nice.

Personally, my view :
1. Full serve is fine. Forcing the stations to do it is purely something I don't like in principle, not in practice. It's like smoking in bars; I love that I don't come home smelling like smoke, I hate that a private business is forced to do something like that. No one likes pumping their own gas, but I still think it should be up to the station owner how they want to run their business.
2. It's not a safety concern. I fill up once or twice a week, self-serve, for the past 12 years I've been driving, and have never seen anything bad happen. 90% of the country is self-serve, and how often do you hear of some gas station related accident that would have been prevented by full serve? Once a year, if that? It's purely a tax / employment thing.
3. Pay at the pump. Use a debit card if you don't like using credit. People who go inside and try to guess how much cash to pay, or even worse go back and get change need to have their heads examined.


But to the majority of your point you're absolutely right, who likes standing outside in the wind and cold to get gas? No one. So force some pump jockey to do it for everyone

Jstas

bobman1235 wrote: »

Personally, my view :
1. Full serve is fine. Forcing the stations to do it is purely something I don't like in principle, not in practice. It's like smoking in bars; I love that I don't come home smelling like smoke, I hate that a private business is forced to do something like that. No one likes pumping their own gas, but I still think it should be up to the station owner how they want to run their business.

I really don't see it as similar to the smoking in bars thing. Everybody needs fuel. Not everybody smokes. I don't agree with the smoking ban either and I voted against it when it went down. But I think it's a poor analogy.

bobman1235 wrote: »

2. It's not a safety concern. I fill up once or twice a week, self-serve, for the past 12 years I've been driving, and have never seen anything bad happen. 90% of the country is self-serve, and how often do you hear of some gas station related accident that would have been prevented by full serve? Once a year, if that? It's purely a tax / employment thing.

Whether you think it is a safety concern or not is not the issue. The state legislature has listed, safety, regulation and taxation purposes as to why the laws are in place. That is the only thing that matters. Your opinion may be against that but you don't live or vote in NJ and the voters in this state shot down repealing those laws. Those opinions are the ones that matter. If you think the politicians are lying and covering it all up, again, that's your opinion. As far as accidents, well, since I ran on an ambulance squad in a pretty densely populated area with about 40 gas stations within our coverage area, at least once, sometimes twice a month we'd get a call for a fire at a gas station. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

bobman1235 wrote: »

3. Pay at the pump. Use a debit card if you don't like using credit. People who go inside and try to guess how much cash to pay, or even worse go back and get change need to have their heads examined.

What if you are like me and got rid of all of your credit cards? I guess I need my head examined. I wish I could be as astute as you in my assessment of other peoples situations.

bobman1235 wrote: »

But to the majority of your point you're absolutely right, who likes standing outside in the wind and cold to get gas? No one. So force some pump jockey to do it for everyone

The "pump jockey" gets PAID to stand in the weather and do it. If you think he doesn't get paid enough, that's your problem. I know I don't get paid to pump gas when I'm in PA and I'm getting robbed paying as much as $.60 more a gallon to do it. So I'm kinda paying for the "luxury" of pumping my own fuel in PA. That is something I think is silly.

bobman1235

I didn't want to start a fight with you John, and specifically tried to not be insulting so you wouldn't jump down my throat and we could have some normal exchange of opinions. That's all they were meant to be, opinions, not insults or attacks or anything you have to growl at me for.

Jstas wrote: »

I really don't see it as similar to the smoking in bars thing. Everybody needs fuel. Not everybody smokes. I don't agree with the smoking ban either and I voted against it when it went down. But I think it's a poor analogy.

It's government stepping into a private business to enforce an unnecessary rule. Gas stations are being equated to bars (they're both private businesses), not to cigarettes. Pumping your own gas AT the station is being equated to smoking; both of them are actions that are undesirable to me but also should be up to the owner of the establishment to decide, that's all.

Whether you think it is a safety concern or not is not the issue. The state legislature has listed, safety, regulation and taxation purposes as to why the laws are in place. That is the only thing that matters. Your opinion may be against that but you don't live or vote in NJ and the voters in this state shot down repealing those laws. Those opinions are the ones that matter. If you think the politicians are lying and covering it all up, again, that's your opinion.

Absolutely, I did not mean to insinuate that the NJ residents or legislature should listen to my opinion, I was merely stating it for conversation's sake. I'm well aware that I am not supreme high chancellor of New Jersey. And you can apply my argument to ANY state considering such a measure (there are a few other states with similar laws, I don't remember which) if my infringing on the voting rights of New Jersians is such a concern.

As far as accidents, well, since I ran on an ambulance squad in a pretty densely populated area with about 40 gas stations within our coverage area, at least once, sometimes twice a month we'd get a call for a fire at a gas station. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Fair enough. Redacted. I'm surprised this isn't in the news more.

What if you are like me and got rid of all of your credit cards? I guess I need my head examined. I wish I could be as astute as you in my assessment of other peoples situations.

I'm sure you still have an ATM card, aka a debit card, which are accepted at most pumps. It is an extreme waste of time to go in and out of the station, in my opinion, and there are many options for paying at the pump that don't require credit of any kind.

Though, on a similar note, there's a gas station near me that has a dollar bill acceptor on the pump, like a vending machine, which is an awesome idea and great for people who are apparently opposed to plastic in all its forms.

The "pump jockey" gets PAID to stand in the weather and do it. If you think he doesn't get paid enough, that's your problem.

The "pump jockey" part was just a joke. I certainly meant no undue respect to the glamorous profession of pouring gas. And I certainly don't think they're "underpaid". Unskilled labor hardly warrants a kings wage in my world.

Jstas

bobman1235 wrote: »

It's government stepping into a private business to enforce an unnecessary rule. Gas stations are being equated to bars (they're both private businesses), not to cigarettes. Pumping your own gas AT the station is being equated to smoking; both of them are actions that are undesirable to me but also should be up to the owner of the establishment to decide, that's all.

No, they are not the same. Bars are regulated because they sell liquor. In NJ you need a license to sell booze. You also need a license to sell fuels. The smoking ban was in all public places in most states out of concern for public health, not regulation. You can't smoke in a gas station because you'll blow it up. Fuels, like booze, are controlled and taxed. The laws are there as measures to control the regulation and taxation of the fuels. Since fuels are highly combustible, they are dangerous and limiting access to the pumps can arguably provide a measure of safety. It's not meant to keep down a private business. The laws protect everyone involved and if you are pumping your own fuel and it's against the law, if an accident happens, you have criminal charges to be filed against you and there is liability. That's a strong deterrent to breaking that law. It helps keep costs down and helps keep people from stealing gas too.

bobman1235 wrote: »

Absolutely, I did not mean to insinuate that the NJ residents or legislature should listen to my opinion, I was merely stating it for conversation's sake. I'm well aware that I am not supreme high chancellor of New Jersey. And you can apply my argument to ANY state considering such a measure (there are a few other states with similar laws, I don't remember which) if my infringing on the voting rights of New Jersians is such a concern.

So you stated a conflicting opinion for "conversations sake" but you don't want to have an "argument"?

And there is only one, Oregon. And if I remember correctly, Oregon instantiated the law because people were a danger to themselves and setting themselves on fire and causing property damage. NJ's reasons are gear more towards taxation and regulation than safety. But the safety aspect and the fact that it creates jobs are what has been argued to keep the law enacted.

bobman1235 wrote: »

Fair enough. Redacted. I'm surprised this isn't in the news more.

It's not in the news because a guy setting a stream of gasoline dribbling down the side of his Hyundai is not news. A dude blowing up an entire gas station would be. There are thousands of fires every day but you never hear about them. Just the ones that burn something to the ground. Those kinds of fires get ratings.

bobman1235 wrote: »

I'm sure you still have an ATM card, aka a debit card, which are accepted at most pumps. It is an extreme waste of time to go in and out of the station, in my opinion, and there are many options for paying at the pump that don't require credit of any kind.

You assume too much. I have no such thing. I have gotten rid of all of my plastic due to recent changes in my life. I have plenty of cash flow to afford what I need and honestly, I'm glad I did it because it has insulated me from this current economic problem we are having. I don't hate plastic, I just found it to be a smarter move for the time being while I recover financially.

bobman1235 wrote: »

Though, on a similar note, there's a gas station near me that has a dollar bill acceptor on the pump, like a vending machine, which is an awesome idea and great for people who are apparently opposed to plastic in all its forms.

I have yet to see anything like that. Although I've always thought that if it works for candy bars and Dr. Pepper, why can't I plug a buck into a machine and get me some gas too?



Now I'm done with this. I don't care what your opinions are, I'm not going to argue them with you. But if you are going to be like every other jackass that DOESN'T live here in NJ and try to tell me what's up in a state I have literally lived in all my life, I don't want to hear it. You're likely wrong about whatever you have swimming around in your head about NJ and if you haven't figured it out by now, I will tell you that you are wrong and I will tell you why you are wrong. So unless you know you are dead on right and can furnish proof that you are right, save it. I'm tired of people getting in to discussions with me, tell me I am arguing with them and then calling me a meany or whatever else because of it. I don't want to deal with it and I don't want to hijack a thread over it. For conversations sake or any sake for that matter.

cmy330go

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

NotaSuv

great way to stay on topic..................popcorn anyone??