$2.94 a gallon and dropping

NotaSuv
NotaSuv Posts: 3,848
edited November 2008 in The Clubhouse
Seems like gas here is falling a few cents everyday...still a crazy range within a 25 mile radius...as high as 3.44 nearby.....with the gas pig I drive this saves me $$$$$$ .15 cents more and we are at the price of a year ago....now that we can afford the gas ,banks wont loan the $$$$ for cars :D
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,986
    edited October 2008
    Ha! Try a couple of pennies less than $4 a gallon for regular here. That's if your station has gas.

    Gas has dropped 40% for the price of a barrel since July. It sure would be nice if that price would be passed on to consumers.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2008
    Georgia still ripping folks off. between 3.20 and 3.70 within a 5 mile radius.

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2008
    Illinois is still at $3.55 most places. Now OPEC says they don't like oil being below $100 so they are considering cutting production. It never ends!!!!!!!!!!
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,725
    edited October 2008
    I don't even bother complaining any more. The way I see it, I'm as much to blame as the next guy becase:

    a) I could use less gas, but I don't, further contributing to the demand issue and advocating my willingness to pay whatever price they set it at. I believe most of us fall into this category...

    b) I/we continue voting people into office who can't/won't do anything about it

    c) I could get off my fat **** and protest, write a letter to my congressman, or something along those lines - but i don't
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  • kgingras
    kgingras Posts: 113
    edited October 2008
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    a) I could use less gas, but I don't, further contributing to the demand issue and advocating my willingness to pay whatever price they set it at. I believe most of us fall into this category...

    Could not agree more. I fill it up with the highest octane available. 110 please! Unless it goes over $10/gal I will not give it a second thought or change driving habits or auto choices.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2008
    Mostly 3.20's around here. Not bad. I'm just waiting for heating oil to catch up - I'm going to have to fill my tank for the winter soon, you're talking several hundred gallons, every penny counts!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Mostly 3.20's around here. Not bad. I'm just waiting for heating oil to catch up - I'm going to have to fill my tank for the winter soon, you're talking several hundred gallons, every penny counts!
    My oil company surprised me with a delivery a few weeks ago, meanwhile we didn't even negotiate a price yet. The invoice was for over $4.50 a gallon, times 150+ gallons. :eek:

    I called them immediately and was able to negotiate a much more reasonable price, but I'm still pissed about what happened. If I would have held out, I'm sure I would have done even better.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited October 2008
    It's $3.55 here last time I got out to look. I have to say, I'm happy with that. Sure, I'd love for it to be cheaper, but comparatively speaking $3.55 ain't that bad.
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited October 2008
    Just dropped below $3/gallon here too. It really pisses me off that people are excited about it, when it's still far too high.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited October 2008
    audiobliss wrote: »
    It's $3.55 here last time I got out to look. I have to say, I'm happy with that. Sure, I'd love for it to be cheaper, but comparatively speaking $3.55 ain't that bad.

    Not picking on you AB because some of my friends say the same thing. But, it's this "settling" that allows the prices to stay high. I don't think there is any reason gas can't be below $3 a gallon. Of course the value of the dollar and inflation will work against us.

    I know there are other things besides the daily price of crude that affect price but it sure seems to me every $5-10 increase in raw crude caused the price of gas to rise significantly but now that price of a barrel of crude is way down, prices at the pump don't seem to reflect that. There is always an excuse to keep pump prices high as long as we are willing to pay it.

    Pretty sad.....

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  • Mike Kozak
    Mike Kozak Posts: 931
    edited October 2008
    I have not been able to put premium in my caddy for the last 2 tanks, it is not good for it!!!!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2008
    Mike Kozak wrote: »
    I have not been able to put premium in my caddy for the last 2 tanks, it is not good for it!!!!
    The extra $.30 a gallon is a lot cheaper than new pistons. :rolleyes:
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  • Mike Kozak
    Mike Kozak Posts: 931
    edited October 2008
    I would put it in if I could find it, prem and mid have been sold out here in NC
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  • Fireman32
    Fireman32 Posts: 4,845
    edited October 2008
    I paid 3.89 the other day and had to drive 6 miles to find a gas station that had any gas.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2008
    Mike Kozak wrote: »
    I would put it in if I could find it, prem and mid have been sold out here in NC
    Ok, that's different.

    If you hear pinging, you can try octane booster available at the auto parts store. The only problem with them, is that their claims are usually greatly exaggerated. Xylene and toluene are also great octane boosters(113+), but also double as paint thinner, so be careful.

    Your best and safest bet for the time being is to just stay out of the pedal until you can put premium back in your tank.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited October 2008
    I really don't know how much gas costs right now in my area. I drive so little anymore since I started the new job and take the train. I filled my 25 gallon tank last Wednesday at $3.44 a gallon I think it was for Sunoco Ultra 93. Cost me like $56 and I'm still above half a tank. I don't think I'm going to need to fill it again until Sunday night judging by the amount of driving I have to do this week.

    On my old job's commute, I would blow through a tank of gas usually by Thursday after filling up Saturday night or Sunday night. Gas budget was $120+ a week.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,151
    edited October 2008
    Filled the VW Golf yesterday for 3.53/gallon regular, which is equivalent to last year's peak price. We have only rarely been under $3 since last year's peak. The fill was under $50 for the first time in a long time. This vehicle gets about 26 mpg in city driving, and 30 mpg highway.

    Our V8 truck uses regular and would keep cutting off at $75, so it has not been filled from empty in a long time. We only use when we have to, so it drives less than 5,000 miles per year.

    Our other car uses premium, which costs $0.20 extra here. We never use regular (the manual says it's a problem). It's a six cylinder, so it gets about 18-21 mpg in the city (L.A. traffic), so we never use it for city driving. Highway gets 32-35 mpg, at 75-80 mph, even though the official EPA estimate is only 28 or something like that.

    No matter where prices go, we have no ability to reduce our mileage. We need the two cars to get to work. Driving less would mean not working, which would be worse, financially, than using less gasoline! The truck gets driven so little that it makes no difference.

    I think we need new technologies so that we can forget oil and forget the Middle East. Go ahead OPEC: keep prices at $100 if you can, American ingenuity is going to make you obsolete!
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  • cmy330go
    cmy330go Posts: 2,341
    edited October 2008
    Mike Kozak wrote: »
    I have not been able to put premium in my caddy for the last 2 tanks, it is not good for it!!!!

    What year is it? Chances are it's got electronically controlled ignition which will **** timing to avoid pinging or knocking. It won't hurt the engine, but it will just make it pretty sluggish.

    I one time had to put standard gas in my Lexus GS430. The car ran just fine. It's just that it felt like I lost about 70hp.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2008
    What's up with all the gas shortages in the Carolinas / Georgia? Why are all your stations running out of fuel?


    Also, all this entitlement attitude that we deserve fuel under 3 bucks a gallon is kinda funny. Gas has been vastly underpriced for us in America for a long time, it was bound to catch up with the rest of the world. I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not delusional enough to think it's so unreasonable. We've just all been spoiled by cheap gas for too long.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Also, all this entitlement attitude that we deserve fuel under 3 bucks a gallon is kinda funny. Gas has been vastly underpriced for us in America for a long time, it was bound to catch up with the rest of the world. I don't like it, don't get me wrong, but I'm not delusional enough to think it's so unreasonable. We've just all been spoiled by cheap gas for too long.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited October 2008
    Here in my area of Dallas, e10 gas prices are around 3.37 - 3.49 per gallon. However, going back to Oklahoma City with E10 based its 2.71 - 281.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited October 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    What's up with all the gas shortages in the Carolinas / Georgia? Why are all your stations running out of fuel?

    Was this rhetorical? My understanding, the shortage started, the legislature said that gas stations couldn't raise prices, combine the two and poof! There you go...
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited October 2008
    cmy330go wrote: »
    What year is it? Chances are it's got electronically controlled ignition which will **** timing to avoid pinging or knocking. It won't hurt the engine, but it will just make it pretty sluggish.

    I one time had to put standard gas in my Lexus GS430. The car ran just fine. It's just that it felt like I lost about 70hp.

    It depends on the car. My truck has adaptive electronic ignition but being supercharged to the extent that it is, anything less than 91 can't handle the compression ratio after boosting and it pre-ignites. I need the higher octane to withstand the combustion chamber pressures. It's got nothing to do with timing advance for me. On the other end though, I think it can handle up to 112 octane without a problem. After than it's no longer gasoline and gets into the crazy racing fuels like C16 and Q16.


    Just because a car has electronic ignition doesn't mean it will adapt. It could be pinging and you won't even know it. Compression ratio is the issue. The more you compress gasoline, the more heat you add. The lower the octane rating, the lower the flash point of the fuel is and the lower the resistance to compression is. If you have a modern, high-performance engine with anything above a 10:1 compression ratio and your manual calls for 91 octane or better, it's not because the computer can't handle the timing curve needed. It's because physics and chemistry both say that it is a physical impossibility to do it safely and reliably.

    Some cars get extra power by advancing timing to a bleeding edge. Others get it by jacking up compression ratios. Still others get it through forced induction. All in all, each method increases cylinder pressures and you need a fuel that can withstand the cylinder pressures and generated heat from compression so that the computer can ignite the mixture at the optimum time. Otherwise, the pre-ignition effects stress engine components like valve seats, pistons, connecting rods, crankshafts and bearing caps.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited October 2008
    Just paid $3.39 for the cheap stuff.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,806
    edited October 2008
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    What's up with all the gas shortages in the Carolinas / Georgia? Why are all your stations running out of fuel?

    Because local refineries and distribution centers are still dealing with storm damage.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2008
    because of common ordinary greed.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2008
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    Was this rhetorical? My understanding, the shortage started, the legislature said that gas stations couldn't raise prices, combine the two and poof! There you go...

    Not rhetorical; I know there were some storm-related problems but didn't realize they were so far-reaching and still around.
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  • goingganzo
    goingganzo Posts: 2,793
    edited October 2008
    my car runs a high compreshon with direct injecton and runs premoum. 2.4l v6 with 200 ponnies. my older car has a 3.5l v6 with 180 hp and get the same millage. i will be buying a plug in electrict in 2010
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited October 2008
    $3.09 here
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited October 2008
    At under $90 a barrel, shouldn't gas be well under $3 just about everywhere? At over $140 a barrel gas was right around $4.09. It always seems to adjust upward a lot faster than adjusting downward.
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