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  • Sami
    Sami Posts: 4,634
    edited May 2007
    ledhed wrote: »
    GMC Syclone and Typhoon - just awesome

    Same engine on them as in the turbo Grand National, IIRC.
    ledhed wrote:
    jflail2 Hell yea Halo. A friend of mine had a Grand National back in HS. I nearly had to change my shorts several times after riding with him in that thing!

    Fast cars, very fast when built right. Wouldn't want to drive one on a twisted road though, it stops to be fun when you take it out of the straight road.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,600
    edited May 2007
    My first car was a 1960 Bel Air. 235 six. Got it for $100.
    It's still owned by the brother of the guy I sold it to when I went into the service.
    Had Mustangs, Camaros, and a lot of just plain old Detroit metal.
    Never have had a Japanese car. I did own a couple of VW Rabbits. Both a
    POS. Had a Escort. Even bigger POS. I've tried to stick to rear wheel drive.
    Much better. I still don't get the whole union bashing thing.
    Everything I've had wrong on my cars for the last 20 years had nothing to do with workmanship.
    It was all poor design/engineering. That's what makes me mad. They can make a model of car for 6 or 7 years without fixing known problems. It would be so easy to make them bullit proof. Go to any Ford or
    Chevy forum. You can find out the weak points of a car in 10 minutes, accross the whole life cycle of a car or engine. Yet, I can go down and find the same weak points in a 07'. There's a bunch of guys in suits NOT doing their job. I fight the same battle in my own workplace. I push problems up to be fixed, and stay with them.
    Sorry for the rant.
    Time for me to buy a new 08' Camaro!
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    Time for me to buy a new 08' Camaro!
    2009 :D
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,600
    edited May 2007
    2008 1/2???
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    2008 1/2???
    It should be released at that time but it is a 2009 model :D
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  • ledhed
    ledhed Posts: 1,088
    edited May 2007
    Mmmmmm.... Panoz Esperante

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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited May 2007
    Old Mopars are worth a bit.http://swww.tmz.com/2007/05/04/dukes-of-hazard-car-sells-for-almost-10-million/
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited May 2007
    I've seen this one on gminsidenews.com forum. They're raving about it.

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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited May 2007
    Had a Ply Duster with a 340.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    Sami wrote: »
    Same engine on them as in the turbo Grand National, IIRC.
    Nope, completely different.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,725
    edited May 2007
    ledhed wrote: »
    Mmmmmm.... Panoz Esperante

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    That's actually quite a beautiful car...
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited May 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Nope, completely different.

    They were pretty close. I had the pleasure of driving a syclone with aftermarket Gale Banks Turbo's. Very fast.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited May 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    I always liked the AMC offerings too, the SC/Rambler, The Machine, Hornet SC360 etc.

    My first car back in 1978 was a '68 Rambler American. 10 years old when I got it and kept it ten more......talk about reliabilty.

    IMO American cars were great until the late 70's when they started switching the big Caprice/Impalas for Malibus and Galaxies/Fairlanes for Zephyrs/Granadas.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited May 2007
    MSALLA wrote: »
    They were pretty close. I had the pleasure of driving a syclone with aftermarket Gale Banks Turbo's. Very fast.

    Buick = RWD Car, 3.8L, SFI, Turbocharged, Intercooled, Buick V6.

    GMC = AWD Truck, 4.3L, MPI(?), Turbocharged, Intercooled, Chevy V6.

    Maybe the same concept but two different animals.

    I owned an '87 Turbo T. Best car I ever had. Smooth, quiet ride. A real back seat & a real trunk. Looked wicked. Got great mileage too as long as you kept your foot of of it. But it had BALLS when you wanted / needed 'em.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited May 2007
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    The late 80's turbo Chryslers and Plymouths were real sleepers, and fun to drive.

    Russ

    I had a 1987 Chrysler laser, turbo 4 banger. the turbo lag was nearly unbearable, but when that turbo kicked in, hold on tight. that sucker pulled hard. had a blast driving that car for a couple years.

    handled pretty darn well too. I beat the snot out of that car :D
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  • MattN03
    MattN03 Posts: 558
    edited May 2007
    The Ford Mustang is my favorite. I own a 03 Mach 1 that is a hoot to drive, race, or just cruise around in and you can't beat that Shaker hood scoop! While not as fun to drive, my 97 Ranger has been extremely reliable. With 110,000 miles, I have only replaced the fuel pump because the float filled up with gas and gave me the incorrect gauge reading. I finally replaced the original battery last December with about 105,000 on the clock!
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited May 2007
    strider wrote: »
    I've seen this one on gminsidenews.com forum. They're raving about it.

    hyundai_hcd8_concept_2004_02_s.jpg


    Sweet looking vehicle... not real sold on Hyundai’s, but it look pretty cool. Not American made either is it ;)

    I'm a big VW / Audi fan as well... just all around the most fun to drive it seems.. on a reasonable budget.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2007
    A year ago, I sold a 1995 Saturn SL1 to a co-worker for $1350. This Saturn had 275,000 miles on it at the time of sale (original engine, orignal clutch, original transaxle). Only routine maintenance (brakes, battery, muffler, etc) while I owned it. The car is his daily driver and he has added 20,000 miles to the odometer in the past year...(i.e. 295,000 miles).

    The car drinks a quart of oil every 1500 miles... but, besides that, its all original and still going strong.

    Not a speck of rust on the body either!!! And, it typically gets 38 MPG in all-around driving.

    - Ron
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  • MSALLA
    MSALLA Posts: 1,602
    edited May 2007
    Halo wrote: »
    Buick = RWD Car, 3.8L, SFI, Turbocharged, Intercooled, Buick V6.

    GMC = AWD Truck, 4.3L, MPI(?), Turbocharged, Intercooled, Chevy V6.

    Maybe the same concept but two different animals.

    I owned an '87 Turbo T. Best car I ever had. Smooth, quiet ride. A real back seat & a real trunk. Looked wicked. Got great mileage too as long as you kept your foot of of it. But it had BALLS when you wanted / needed 'em.

    I was only talking about the motors. I'm pretty sure both the 3.8 and the 4.3 are GM corp. blocks. Both Turbo. I'm not sure but I think the GNX was also the 4.3 but I could be wrong on that. You can also add that limited V6 turbo trans-am that was out for a year or two. that was the 3.8 GN motor.
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited May 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »


    Not a speck of rust on the body either!!! And, it typically gets 38 MPG in all-around driving.

    - Ron

    How much of the "sheet metal" is made of plastic?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    MSALLA wrote: »
    I was only talking about the motors. I'm pretty sure both the 3.8 and the 4.3 are GM corp. blocks. Both Turbo. I'm not sure but I think the GNX was also the 4.3 but I could be wrong on that. You can also add that limited V6 turbo trans-am that was out for a year or two. that was the 3.8 GN motor.
    Nope, the GNX was the 3.8L V6.

    I'd never heard of a turbo V6 TransAm. I'll have to look into that one!
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »

    I'd never heard of a turbo V6 TransAm. I'll have to look into that one!


    It was a pace car for the Indy 500, IIRC. All white, gold lettering on the side. I believe it coincided with one of the Trans Am's anniversaries, too. Going way back in my memory, I think it was the quickest production car the year it was out.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    Sweet. I'm def googling it!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    MSALLA wrote: »
    I was only talking about the motors. I'm pretty sure both the 3.8 and the 4.3 are GM corp. blocks. Both Turbo. I'm not sure but I think the GNX was also the 4.3 but I could be wrong on that. You can also add that limited V6 turbo trans-am that was out for a year or two. that was the 3.8 GN motor.
    This is turning into the "Great American Car Misinformation Thread".
    The GNX/TTA/GN/T-Type used a 3.8 litre Buick motor, the prerequisite to today's corporate 3800. The SY/TY's 4.3 was basically a small block chevy with 2 cylinders chopped off. The motors internally shared nothing.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    From wikipedia, a 301ci turbocharged V8 was optional in 1979 and was the standard engine in 1980. When you consider the alternative was the 305, I hope everybody chose the 301!

    Then in 1989 you had the LD5, which was a 3.8L turbocharged V6 putting out 250 hp and 340 ft·lb.

    Very interesting.
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited May 2007
    I knew a guy with that 6 banger trans am, it was no friggin joke. no surprise its the same engine that was in the grand national, as that car was no joke either. those grand nationals fetch over 20g used last i checked, could be more now.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    strider wrote: »
    How much of the "sheet metal" is made of plastic?
    :D
    I hope he was kidding.

    Ever see one that was in a accident? The plastic just tears away and reveals underneath. Reminds me of something out of a Terminator movie.

    As for my contribution:
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    Over 1,000 HP and around 2700lbs. :eek:
    The motor is based of GM's LSX platform. Probably a C5R block with a LS1/2/6 style crank.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    From wikipedia, a 301ci turbocharged V8 was optional in 1979 and was the standard engine in 1980. When you consider the alternative was the 305, I hope everybody chose the 301!
    The 301 had balls, but it wasn't known for it's longevity.
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  • BAD ASP
    BAD ASP Posts: 361
    edited May 2007
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,600
    edited May 2007
    Face wrote: »
    The 301 had balls, but it wasn't known for it's longevity.


    Pre-computer (no fuel injection) turbo setups grenaded on a regular basis.
    The idea was sound, but tech was lacking. There was a pace car (early 80's)
    Trans am in silver up in Norman ,OK. for sale. I believe this would be the motor
    used after 79. 79 was the last 6.6 L year in both 400 and 401 flavors.
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