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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Daaaaaaaaaang. I figured the LS7's would have to be expensive...but thatmuch?!?!?! :eek:
    Actually a crate LS7 will cost about 15K
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    GaryZ06 wrote: »
    Is this yours?
    Yes it is.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    Sweet!!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Yes it is.
    Very Cool:cool:.....Vette Doctors?
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    Awwww, come on, people. Lets cut the baloney, cut the cheese, cut the...umm, wait...cut the formalities and get right down to business!

    What 1/4 times are you guys getting? That includes r/t, 60', 1/8, 1/4, and trap speeds, now!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Awwww, come on, people. Lets cut the baloney, cut the cheese, cut the...umm, wait...cut the formalities and get right down to business!

    What 1/4 times are you guys getting? That includes r/t, 60', 1/8, 1/4, and trap speeds, now!
    With my former C5 Z06 with headers,Vararam intake,exhaust and tune.....11.7 @ 120 mph......60ft 1.66
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    Nice. That's pretty much right there with what a stock C6 Z06 will do, right? What kind of numbers is yours putting out, now? I know it's not stock!
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Nice. That's pretty much right there with what a stock C6 Z06 will do, right? What kind of numbers is yours putting out, now? I know it's not stock!
    The fastest recorded Stock C6 Z06 is 11.22 @.... 127 mph
    The same stock car on drag radials is 10.85 @ 129.5 mph....this is with a great driver.
    My car bone stock I put down 450 rwhp.....after headers,filter and tune 490 rwhp 465 rwtq...No 1/4 mile times yet....to hot here.
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    What?! You haven't taken that beast down the 1/4 yet?! Wow. Hope you get to soon enough. Bet you have a lot of good kill stories, though! :D
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    What?! You haven't taken that beast down the 1/4 yet?! Wow. Hope you get to soon enough. Bet you have a lot of good kill stories, though! :D
    I want to do a couple of more mods before I go and yes quite a few kill stories:D
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  • Bill Ayotte
    Bill Ayotte Posts: 1,860
    edited May 2007
    GaryZ06 wrote: »
    Actually a crate LS7 will cost about 15K

    Yeah, they aren't 24K alone....I know the crate DOES NOT come with a fuel injection system....You can carb them now too...Don't know why you would. He tends to buy things from the first place he finds them as well....It should be interesting to see what his dumb **** messes up in this project...I had to re-build his 383 for him after he screwed that up...It is sure fun to get a few bucks off of him when he plays with things above his head...
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    Bill Ayotte wrote: »
    Yeah, they aren't 24K alone....I know the crate DOES NOT come with a fuel injection system....You can carb them now too...Don't know why you would. He tends to buy things from the first place he finds them as well....It should be interesting to see what his dumb **** messes up in this project...I had to re-build his 383 for him after he screwed that up...It is sure fun to get a few bucks off of him when he plays with things above his head...
    Yes I know 24K isn't alone.....I know a guy who installed a LS7 in a C5....and it cost MORE than 15K....alot of extra stuff to be added.....Wait till the LS9 comes out very soon...right now it is up to 635 HP....6.2L Supercharged motor....Let me look at my checkbook :D
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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    I can't believe they're going to have a forced-induction powerplant in a Corvette. That's just not rate. Naturally Aspirated is synonymous with American, with Muscle Car, with Corvette, with Camaro.

    *sigh*
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    I can't believe they're going to have a forced-induction powerplant in a Corvette. That's just not rate. Naturally Aspirated is synonymous with American, with Muscle Car, with Corvette, with Camaro.

    *sigh*
    Standard Corvette for 2008 is a LS3 6.2 L
    Z06 LS7 7.0L
    Z08(name could change) 6.2L Super Charged 635 HP(this might change) Plus this car will be lighter....might have to make room in the garage for this one.
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  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2007
    A fine UAW built Toyota from the NUMMI Plant in California!!!
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  • Holydoc
    Holydoc Posts: 1,048
    edited May 2007
    Still love my 2002 WS6 Trans Am. So far I have had zero problems with it. How fast is it? Guess I will never know. I prefer to cruise rather than fly. :)

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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    Holydoc wrote: »
    Still love my 2002 WS6 Trans Am. So far I have had zero problems with it. How fast is it? Guess I will never know. I prefer to cruise rather than fly. :)

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    Nice....My brother has a 2002 Silver WS6.....A little while ago I lowered his car for him...springs,shocks,and did his brakes for him among many,many things.He has headers,airbox and exhaust.It sounds means as hell.

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  • audiobliss
    audiobliss Posts: 12,518
    edited May 2007
    Man, for the Z08 they should just supercharge the LS7!!!

    Sweet TransAms, both of 'em!

    You still liking your audio system in yours, holydoc?
    George Grand wrote: »
    Jstas wrote: »
    Simple question. If you had a cool million bucks, what would you do with it?
    Wonder WTF happened to the rest of my money.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited May 2007
    R-

    Isn't that the same car you were crapping on in the other thread? Way to stand on your morals and be consistant... :rolleyes:

    Gary:

    You don't screw around do you? Do you do all your own mods? I used to love working on cars but any more there are too many rubber hoses and electronics for me to muck up. I'll stick to breaks and suspensions as those have't changed much.

    I remember working on my 65 'stang in HS and my friends 68 Nova and his brothers 70 charger. All sweet rides. I'd love to have my 65 back. I think about 50% of that car was my parts and labor by the time I was done with it.
    There is no genuine justice in any scheme of feeding and coddling the loafer whose only ponderable energies are devoted wholly to reproduction. Nine-tenths of the rights he bellows for are really privileges and he does nothing to deserve them. We not only acquired a vast population of morons, we have inculcated all morons, old or young, with the doctrine that the decent and industrious people of the country are bound to support them for all time.-Menkin
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited May 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    A fine UAW built Toyota from the NUMMI Plant in California!!!


    I'm glad I got my Toyota before the over-inflated production costs set set in. Man, Toyota used to have quality and be able to deliver at a reasonable cost. I guess thats in the past now...

    madmax
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    What 1/4 times are you guys getting? That includes r/t, 60', 1/8, 1/4, and trap speeds, now!
    Off the top of my head, 11.05 @ 120.xx, 1.49 60', that was with 397rwhp/370rwtq. At 410rwhp/390rwtq now and just recently worked most of the bugs out of it. Just ran 11.17 @ 120 on a day 45 degrees warmer than the day I ran the 11.05, so I should be in the 10's this fall.
    My 11.62 @ 114, 1.54 60' still stands for the quickest C5 with just bolt ons(stock heads/cam, no nitrous/FI).
    Gary, yes I use The Vette Doctors.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,600
    edited May 2007
    madmax wrote: »
    I'm glad I got my Toyota before the over-inflated production costs set set in. Man, Toyota used to have quality and be able to deliver at a reasonable cost. I guess thats in the past now...

    madmax

    Toyota has the lowest defect rate of all Cars in the U.S.
    The price is high because demand is high. The cars are great.

    The dealers are horrible
    I would have a Toyota truck right now if they had even hinted that they cared. I wanted one. They just threw **** at me for an hour and a half. No price could be pried from their lips. Just sign this form.
    Then we will qualify you and tell you the payment amounts. Yeah right.
    Managers appeared. The service manager appeared. They would have lined up the pope to meet me.
    Just don't ask them to commit to a price.

    Fun fact: Ford is now in 2nd place for their defect rate!
    Before anyone gets their panties in a wad, the problems most have with
    new Fords are the result of design, not the workmanship of the worker bees.
    Long way to go to reach the good design/quality build/Kaizen
    loop that Toyota has. The next step is up to Ford management.
    Son#2's 1998 Mustang
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    audiobliss wrote: »
    Man, for the Z08 they should just supercharge the LS7!!!
    From what I hear the LS7's cylinder walls are to thin....but there are other companies that TT the LS7....so I don't know....:confused:
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    jdhdiggs wrote: »
    R-


    Gary:

    You don't screw around do you? Do you do all your own mods? I used to love working on cars but any more there are too many rubber hoses and electronics for me to muck up. I'll stick to breaks and suspensions as those have't changed much.
    I do as much as I can but sometimes when I just don't feel like it doing it I have a great place for installs..When it comes time for tuning it via computer program I have a good buddy of mine who is a whiz.I have good experience with the LS series motors...LS1..LS2...LS6....LS7.
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  • GaryZ06
    GaryZ06 Posts: 317
    edited May 2007
    Face wrote: »
    Off the top of my head, 11.05 @ 120.xx, 1.49 60', that was with 397rwhp/370rwtq. At 410rwhp/390rwtq now and just recently worked most of the bugs out of it. Just ran 11.17 @ 120 on a day 45 degrees warmer than the day I ran the 11.05, so I should be in the 10's this fall.
    My 11.62 @ 114, 1.54 60' still stands for the quickest C5 with just bolt ons(stock heads/cam, no nitrous/FI).
    Gary, yes I use The Vette Doctors.
    Face those are killer times.....When I ran the 11.7 @ 120 I had 380 rwhp and 360 rwtq....I ran it on BFG drag radials 315-35-17....When I added the cam my numbers were 410 rwhp and 380 rwtq..Carmen and the guys do great work.I bought my American Racing headers for my C6 Z06 from the Vette Doctors.My C6 Z06 puts down 490 rwhp and 465 rwtq but I will be adding a cam soon :eek:
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  • Spacedeckman
    Spacedeckman Posts: 96
    edited May 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    MOTOR TREND CAR OF THE YEAR AWARD (LAST 30 YEARS)
    2006 Honda Civic: Thrilling ride...not.
    2005 Chrysler 300: Haven't we been here before?
    2004 Toyota Prius: Why?
    2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe / Sedan: Okay, this is a car worth talking about.
    2002 Ford Thunderbird: Retro nod to the US industry
    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser: It's an inverted bathtub. Nothing new or innovative
    2000 Lincoln LS: Okay, not a bad idea.
    1999 Chrysler 300M: Some cool ideas here. Okay car.
    1998 Chevrolet Corvette: A Corvette for the 90s
    1997 Chevrolet Malibu: Yeah, right.
    1996 Dodge Caravan: It was news in 1984.
    1995 Chrysler Cirrus: Some good ideas, lots of issues
    1994 Ford Mustang: I can buy that. Was an okay car.
    1993 Ford Probe GT: Why not give it to Mazda?
    1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan: Sporty, for an 80 year old
    1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ: How do you spell UGLY?
    1990 Lincoln Town Car: I used to own a '73 Galaxie, TC had nicer interior
    1989 Ford Thunderbird SC: BMW rip-off with more power
    1988 Pontiac Grand Prix: Okay car, but if that was the "best" of '88....
    1987 Ford Thunderbird: Ford rips off a 70's BMW design
    1986 Ford Taurus LX: A rental legend...zzzzzzz
    1985 Volkswagen GTI: That's a cool car.
    1984 Chevrolet Corvette: Finally, a Corvette for the 80s vs the 60s
    1983 American Motors Renault Alliance: Big POS, weird and unreliable
    1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28: Pile of poo. QC issues up the ying-yang
    1981 Chrysler K-cars, Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant: Change of direction.
    1980 Chevrolet Citation: Change of direction, not a good car.
    1979 Buick Riviera S: Yeah, boring AND unreliable. Plaid golf pants anyone?
    1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni/Plymouth Horizon: No. Not worth cheering.
    1977 Chevrolet Caprice-Boooring, nothing special

    Very interesting. For years, Motor Trend was the American car "excusemaker", and this list surely proves it. This list is largely a very sorry mix of cars, some picked because they signaled a move by the "Big 3", not because they were good cars, because they were milestones. I had to add some notes onto the list to solidify my position. The list is totally lame. I guess I expect more out of a "car of the year" than this.

    Mark
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited May 2007
    1988 Pontiac Fiero GT - mid-engine, the design was ahead of it's time, and still looks better than anything GM has come out with since save the C6.

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited May 2007
    aaharvel wrote: »
    1988 Pontiac Fiero GT - mid-engine, the design was ahead of it's time, and still looks better than anything GM has come out with since save the C6.

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    My brother-in-law owned one of those back in the day and it was a real dog of a lemon. It was always in the shop. If I remember correctly one of the nagging problems was with the tranny. Now that may be just one car but going on that experience I would never buy one.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited May 2007
    hell they were all lemons lol! But when they did run they were fun to drive - and they did look good, at least to these eyes.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited May 2007
    aaharvel wrote: »
    hell they were all lemons lol! But when they did run they were fun to drive - and they did look good, at least to these eyes.

    Funny thing is when I first saw one, and I remember this clearly, I said, "it looks like a big giant stepped on a car." LOL.
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