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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,662
    edited April 2019
    Same director as the "Battle of the B@st@rds" episode. They made it well known then that he tried to draw the audience into the chaos and "feeling" of a true battle.

    Make you feel like you were living it with Snow.

    He went for the same thing last night. Dark, confusing and hard to keep up with. If you felt anxious, confused and stressed, then it was exactly what he wanted you to feel.

    It was a great episode IMO. It does seem like some more key characters should have died. However, I'm assuming whoever is left it is for a very good reason and they still have a part to play.

    They did an awesome job setting the pace and making you feel connected to the characters feelings. An AWESOME job giving enough time between last seeing Arya to basically forgetting all about her as you're so caught up in Dany, John, Theon and Bran that she can truly pop out of nowhere to take down someone that always seems to have a plan that's three steps ahead of everyone else. Arya is always the one that nobody notices, nobody expects, nobody planned for. Just when you're feeling pretty proud of yourself, she is there to take you down.
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  • simm
    simm Posts: 564
    I was expecting to see a headless Ned emerge from the crypt.
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  • voltz
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    I’m not sure if I’m lucky or just knew to have all ambient lights off or if my setup is that good, but the quality of the picture was amazing. Yes dark, but no subtle details were lost. Maybe a little to realistic for some in a night battle? IDK
    But that last kill scene when Arya killed the Night king was brilliant. No Snow, or Dani or anyone else. Had to be her.
    Best episode yet I agree with @recoveryone

    it was brutal...had to keep pausing i as I couldn't handle watching it Sunday night... I am such apus....anyways Joe you hit it straight on...

    I only wish they took more time to do a head count...not sure what all happened?

    I felt Episode 2 was so much needed before the storm....we all knew this was coming... I say what hit me the Hardest but it would be a spoiler and I can not go there....(hint Bear island)
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    I love Arya. She's been my favorite character since season 1.

    However, I tend to agree with this article I just read. That sex scene with Gendry felt unnecessary and forced. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27220100/arya-stark-gendry-game-of-thrones-season-8-sex-scene/
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I love Arya. She's been my favorite character since season 1.

    However, I tend to agree with this article I just read. That sex scene with Gendry felt unnecessary and forced. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27220100/arya-stark-gendry-game-of-thrones-season-8-sex-scene/

    Maybe they want to make sure that we see her as a woman now and not the little girl from season 1?
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,007
    And maybe she’s now got inside her the statement by King Robert to Ned: “You have a daughter; I have a son; we should join our houses.” Future king even though it would be a bastage?
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,662
    dromunds wrote: »
    And maybe she’s now got inside her the statement by King Robert to Ned: “You have a daughter; I have a son; we should join our houses.” Future king even though it would be a bastage?

    Unless Gendry was legitimized and was therefore no longer considered a b@st@ard...

    Almost nothing happens by accident in this show. Arya and Gendry just became serious contenders to rule if Dany and Jon don’t make it.

    Personally, I think Dany dies first. Jon legitimizes Gendry, probably on his “death bed”

    It was no mistake that Gendry ignored Davos and told Jon who his father was on Dragonstone. It was not purposeful and his intent, but it does set the stage.
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  • recoveryone
    recoveryone Posts: 890
    With 2 of the Northen houses down with no leader, I could see Gendry and Arya given rule over those lands.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,142
    For those expecting more of a death toll, consider that the entire Dothraki army was wiped out...remember the fading lights of their swords in the distance...and most/all(?) of the Unsullied army is gone. Dany doesn't have much of an army left now best I can tell, which makes her (and all of them) very vulnerable to Cersei's army.

    One review comment I read, and tend to agree with, is how odd it seems that killing the Night King wiped-out the whole bunch. The 'rule' was that killing a Night Walker only killed those that they had resurrected. I didn't get the impression that the Night King had created all his Night Walker lieutenants. I thought Night Walkers had to be created individually, and hadn't simply been resurrected like the Walking Dead Army, but I guess the NK created them all?

    Once this series is over, maybe the prequel series will clear some of it up...a few years from now.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,900
    did sam kill anything?
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,007
    Artistic license. Lol. Actually, I do seem to remember several times in past episodes where Samwell Tarley, Jon or maybe others have commented that if they kill the NK everyone would die, but I don't remember where that came from - I seem to remember Samwell read it somewhere at the Citadel, I don't know how anyone would know it. I could be wrong, and I'm going off memory so I don't recall exactly what they said as far as whether it was the "everyone" would die, or the "army of the dead" would die. Anyway, its a good distinction you raise and probably explained by artistic license.
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,007
    marvda1 wrote: »
    did sam kill anything?

    He was stabbing like a madman at one point, but he had killed several undead in between episodes of his little freak-outs. Last I remember seeing him he was on top of a big pile of dead stabbing wildly and then he just sort of was on top of a pile of dead staring off into space as if he felt the end had come. I thought he was toast but he seems to have survived, as he must because he hasn't explained what's in those books he cobbed from the Citadel.
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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,334
    When Jon and crew went up North to capture a wight to show Cersei one of them, they killed a White Walker and all the dead but one were dusted. They figured from that, that killing the "maker" killed those they resurrected.

    Of course, that doesn't mean they could be certain that the Night King created all of the other White Walkers. The Children of the Forest created the first WW, presumably he became the Night King. I thought that they created others as well, but maybe not.
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  • westmassguy
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    Probably a domino effect. Kill the night king, his lieutenants die, and anyone they created die.
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  • jdjohn
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    I was expecting more build-up to killing the Night King, where the humans would have to work their way up the chain of command. Ya know, to get to the NK, they have to go through a few lieutenants first. Let Jon use his kick-arse Valyrian-steel sword more. Oh well.
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  • Jimbo18
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    jdjohn wrote: »
    I was expecting more build-up to killing the Night King, where the humans would have to work their way up the chain of command. Ya know, to get to the NK, they have to go through a few lieutenants first. Let Jon use his kick-arse Valyrian-steel sword more. Oh well.

    I think the problem is the short season. Trying to pack too much into 6 episodes
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    You guys are taking away Arya’s glory?!!
    Was perfect end to an ever seemingly winless war IMO. Could have been Snow but that would have been predictable. Could have been Dany but then what? She and Snow fight for the throne?
    Perfect IMO
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 3,142
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    jdjohn wrote: »
    I was expecting more build-up to killing the Night King, where the humans would have to work their way up the chain of command. Ya know, to get to the NK, they have to go through a few lieutenants first. Let Jon use his kick-arse Valyrian-steel sword more. Oh well.

    I think the problem is the short season. Trying to pack too much into 6 episodes
    ^ I think you're right, Jim. "Let's wrap-up these dead bad guys, and move on to the living bad guys (or girl)." I mean, we all knew the walking dead would be destroyed one way or another.
    joecoulson wrote: »
    You guys are taking away Arya’s glory?!!
    Was perfect end to an ever seemingly winless war IMO. Could have been Snow but that would have been predictable. Could have been Dany but then what? She and Snow fight for the throne?
    Perfect IMO
    No, not robbing her glory. Maybe have Jon take out a few lieutenants first, then just as the NK is about to finish Jon, Arya come in like she did. Or maybe even a little suffering first for the Night Walkers...ya know, bring the NK to his knees, see some bright-blue blood, THEN kill him. Instead, we had one huge epic battle scene, and then one quick stab...done.

    Ok, I'll stop now :#
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  • jdjohn
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    On a lighter note, turns out that Ron Burgundy is big fan of GOT :D
    https://youtu.be/NXdbhs7a9iI
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    Thats awesome Jody! made me laugh - good stuff
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  • marvda1
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  • joecoulson
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    That was awesome - thanks Marv
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    By the way, this was pointed out in a Reddit post. Anyone notice the dagger used to kill the Night King was the same one that was given to the Lannisters to kill Bran in the first season? Nice little full circle effect there.
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,101
    Great article on ALL the foreshadowing (intentional or not) that it'd be Arya delivering the death jab going all the way back to the very first episode of the very first season...

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguillaume/game-of-thrones-arya-stark-night-king-foreshadowing

    Also, How the heck did that one viewer have such a well-lit picture of that scene in the viewer reactions video above (@ 8:16)?!? None of the others looked that good, nor did any TV in our house (including our 1080 Panny plasma...). Now that was better!

    Here's an interesting way the series could have ended...

    The dead skirt right around Winterfell, and take King's Landing by surprise. Cersei and Euron Greyjoy then lead the wights and defeat all as they march back north. After all, death always wins...
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  • RobbyKY
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    I'm in Spain this week and apparently everyone in this country is addicted to the show except for one taxi driver. It's the topic of every conversation. Opinion here is that Bran is really the Lord of Light and used or sacrificed everyone that died to lead the Knight King up to that very moment when Arya killed him. Light vs Dark theory that I can almost keep up with in my broken Spanish skills. Next Sunday I'm in Germany and don't think you can get HBO there but I'm not watching episode 5 on my dang phone. Avoiding the spoilers will be the hardest thing ever until I can get back home!
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  • Mr_Hz
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    You guys are taking away Arya’s glory?!!
    Was perfect end to an ever seemingly winless war IMO. Could have been Snow but that would have been predictable. Could have been Dany but then what? She and Snow fight for the throne?
    Perfect IMO

    I'm not so sure. I luv Arya, hell of a kiss **** assassin, but this (the Dead) wasn't her war/battle. Heck, she was asking Gendry for Whyte info fer chrissakes! All the lead up in previous episodes, all the prophecy, all the Melissandra inclinations (never mind she was 'just a match stick' in this last episode - sad!!) pointed to Jon (or possibly Dany) taking out the Knight King, as the 'Prince that was promised.'

    This guy, who I stumbled upon, makes some interesting points and plot deviations in the last season 7 episodes and this to make it all a better cohesive plot line in my estimation.

    Heck, we won't even get in to the 'Horn of Winter' that Sam found at the Fist of the First Men, and what that could have meant to overthrow the NK.

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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,662
    “The Prince/Princess who was promised” prophecy to end the Knight King also lends itself to Arya and probably Gendry sitting on the Iron Throne in the end...
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    I wasn't really surprised by anything in the episode tonight. The last one, next week, will be interesting.
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    I was thinking Cersei would put down Terrien.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,933
    halo wrote: »
    I wasn't really surprised by anything in the episode tonight. The last one, next week, will be interesting.

    There's two more episodes to go in this season.
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