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  • Jimbo18
    Jimbo18 Posts: 2,337
    I enjoyed both episodes a lot. Action - no, but a lot of interaction, which was interesting and, I think, necessary. I loved seeing the reactions many of the characters had when they encountered people from their past. Many of whom tried to kill each other previously.

    Starting next episode, I assume it's going to be nothing but action the rest of the way.
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,079
    Im calling it now for the last episode...think last episode of The Sopranos.
  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    scubalab wrote: »
    Waited almost 2 years for this?!? Disappointing first two episodes so far... I expected some setup, but not two episodes worth.

    There are lots of loose ends to tie up before people start dropping like flies. First two episodes were good so far, we got a lot of situations done and over with. Time for the action, I have a feeling the battle will be two episodes worth of time.
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,617
    edited April 2019
    scubalab wrote: »
    Waited almost 2 years for this?!? Disappointing first two episodes so far... I expected some setup, but not two episodes worth.

    I respectfully disagree. What has made GOT the massive success that it is, is the deliberate and extensive development of the characters. The re-connections in the past two episodes were outstanding, and the dialogue is every bit as rich as I have come to expect. Like a fine prime-rib dinner, we know the main course is coming - savor the appetizer :wink:

    Also, I'm pretty sure the producers are doing the extensive set-up just to twist the knife that much harder, when they start killing people off in the next 4 episodes...
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    daddyjt wrote: »
    scubalab wrote: »
    Waited almost 2 years for this?!? Disappointing first two episodes so far... I expected some setup, but not two episodes worth.

    I respectfully disagree. What has made GOT the massive success that it is, is the deliberate and extensive development of the characters. The re-connections in the past two episodes were outstanding, and the dialogue is every bit as rich as I have come to expect. Like a fine prime-rib dinner, we know the main course is coming - savor the appetizer :wink:

    Also, I'm pretty sure the producers are doing the extensive set-up just to twist the knife that much harder, when they start killing people off in the next 4 episodes...

    Well said. Couldn't agree more.
  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,105
    daddyjt wrote: »
    scubalab wrote: »
    Waited almost 2 years for this?!? Disappointing first two episodes so far... I expected some setup, but not two episodes worth.

    I respectfully disagree. What has made GOT the massive success that it is, is the deliberate and extensive development of the characters. The re-connections in the past two episodes were outstanding, and the dialogue is every bit as rich as I have come to expect. Like a fine prime-rib dinner, we know the main course is coming - savor the appetizer :wink:

    Also, I'm pretty sure the producers are doing the extensive set-up just to twist the knife that much harder, when they start killing people off in the next 4 episodes...

    I agree 100% on the extensive character development making the series a success. Actually, my favorite episodes were the ones spent developing the characters and their relationships (like the episodes with Jamie and Brienne traveling King's Road, or the entire trek of Aria with the Hound, about any involving Tyrion and his 'relationships' (Bronn, Jorah, Varys, Shae), Ned Stark and Robert Barathian, and the complexity of characters such as Olenna Tyrell, Tormund, Joffrey, Davos, the Sand Snakes, Ramsey, etc.). The action/battle scenes & episodes are OK, but to me, not what makes the series great. I honestly believe that it's all the special effects, expensive shoots, etc. that has dragged the wait for 6 more episodes to almost 2 years. I'm expecting a little too much effort to have been invested in the 'battle' scenes and special effects, and not enough into the other episodes.

    To me, the first two episodes seemed dumbed down (I get it... it's been a LONG time, so they felt they needed to re-introduce the audience to a lot of characters), and "happy, happy, joy, joy". Seems like everyone is 'making up', getting along too good, and just loving each other a little too much. Feel like so much more could have been done with the scene with Tyrion, Jamie, Davos, Brienne, etc. around the fire drinking.

    I liked the outline of the first two episodes, just seemed like so much more could have been done to make them better is all. Still loving the series, just worried that the complex, quality storyline episodes are going to be overshadowed by the action episodes. I'm feeling like they invested 95% of their efforts into the upcoming battle episodes, and then the remaining 5% into the developing episodes. Maybe I need to re-watch the first two episodes again... Maybe I just judged the entirety of the first two episodes on the completely ridiculous joyride on the dragons, and Aria 'getting jiggy' with Gendry!
  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,617
    Agreed, the dragon-ride scene was forced and unnecessary.
    I thought Breann’s knighting scene was one of the most powerful in the series. Also, Sam presenting his family sword to Jorah was pretty moving.

    I hope in the (presumably two) battles coming (Winterfell vs White Walkers, and whomever advances out of that bracket vs King’s Landing) are not non-stop CGI action/fight sequences, and we still get some “meat” in the form of character interaction and dialogue...
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,536
    Extensive character development was a hallmark of the books. And once that was done a gruesome death would often follow. >:)
  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,032
    Yeah, but who is going to be the 1st major character killed off next week in the battle?
  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,905
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Agreed, the dragon-ride scene was forced and unnecessary.
    I thought Breann’s knighting scene was one of the most powerful in the series. Also, Sam presenting his family sword to Jorah was pretty moving.

    I hope in the (presumably two) battles coming (Winterfell vs White Walkers, and whomever advances out of that bracket vs King’s Landing) are not non-stop CGI action/fight sequences, and we still get some “meat” in the form of character interaction and dialogue...

    when was jon going to learn how to ride a dragon without this scene?
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,032
    What seemed out of sorts was that Bran and Jon were telling everyone that "there's no time for that!" and then Jon and the Dragon Mama take a love ride to a waterfall and start making out. I was expecting the Night King to descend upon them right there and then in their moment of weakness. Lol.
  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,905
    the night king isn't a blocker :D
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,617
    dromunds wrote: »
    Yeah, but who is going to be the 1st major character killed off next week in the battle?

    Vegas odds currently have it as Theon at +125 (Jamie is +300)

    https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/got/
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  • recoveryone
    recoveryone Posts: 901
    very good episode, maybe best yet
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 10,032
    Didn’t see that NK sheeit coming
  • Emlyn
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,105
    Great episode. Although I’m still not sure what happened - we couldn’t see a thing (the video was so dark), LOL. Makes me wonder why we have color TVs nowadays. :p
  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,905
    i'm 62 and was crying like a baby. :'(
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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 2,617
    scubalab wrote: »
    Great episode. Although I’m still not sure what happened - we couldn’t see a thing (the video was so dark), LOL. Makes me wonder why we have color TVs nowadays. :p

    Here’s the HBO recap - sums it up pretty well.

    https://youtu.be/ZJ1yC3yESLQ
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    I was very disappointed with last nights episode.

    Not for nothing but, they all would have / should have been dead.
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,105
    edited April 2019
    Think my sarcasm went undetected. I got the gist of the episode, and I liked it. I just hate how dark action movies/shows are anymore. Why do we invest in great AV gear only to watch content that is so dark, you can't see what's going on, or who's involved. I get the fact that it's night, it's dark, it's chaotic, it's fast-paced, etc., but at least film it so that the audience can SEE it. The episode was so action packed, and FAST, that you needed to see some details. We found ourselves constantly rewinding, pausing, using slow motion, etc., just to see what happened, or who was involved.

    Additionally, everything was so dark and gray/blue, that it might as well have been in black and white. Save for the flames, there was no color in the episode - it was 51 shades of gray. I can sort of live with this for the mood setting, but come on Hollywood, lighten up (literally)!

    Maybe I'm gettin' old, LOL. Although our 16-year old complained just as much that it was too dark.

    Seriously though, I enjoyed the episode and the true sense of fear that all the characters had at the onset.
    I really liked how Aria used the move that impressed Brienne so much as the death strike on the Night King!
  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    I’m not sure if I’m lucky or just knew to have all ambient lights off or if my setup is that good, but the quality of the picture was amazing. Yes dark, but no subtle details were lost. Maybe a little to realistic for some in a night battle? IDK
    But that last kill scene when Arya killed the Night king was brilliant. No Snow, or Dani or anyone else. Had to be her.
    Best episode yet I agree with @recoveryone
  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
    I liked that it was so dark, it put us in the shoes of those who were at the battle. We could barely see, they could barely see. I would get thrown out of immersion if I could clearly see what was happening but the characters couldn't. Just put your TV on Dynamic mode to brighten it up.

    Great episode, that first charge from the wight army was downright terrifying. Of course it had to be Arya, she IS the most BA of them all. I just like how she went from little girl Arya like episode 1 to remembering all her training and how BA she really is.

    To steal a comment from Reddit "Next Episode Cersei and her giant army vs 2 dragons and 12 soldiers." LOL
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  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,278
    Amazing episode! Loved it! I had no problem with the dark scenes. My 1080p Panny Plasma still rolls with the best of them. #TEAMARYA
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,685
    edited April 2019
    Same director as the "Battle of the B@st@rds" episode. They made it well known then that he tried to draw the audience into the chaos and "feeling" of a true battle.

    Make you feel like you were living it with Snow.

    He went for the same thing last night. Dark, confusing and hard to keep up with. If you felt anxious, confused and stressed, then it was exactly what he wanted you to feel.

    It was a great episode IMO. It does seem like some more key characters should have died. However, I'm assuming whoever is left it is for a very good reason and they still have a part to play.

    They did an awesome job setting the pace and making you feel connected to the characters feelings. An AWESOME job giving enough time between last seeing Arya to basically forgetting all about her as you're so caught up in Dany, John, Theon and Bran that she can truly pop out of nowhere to take down someone that always seems to have a plan that's three steps ahead of everyone else. Arya is always the one that nobody notices, nobody expects, nobody planned for. Just when you're feeling pretty proud of yourself, she is there to take you down.
  • simm
    simm Posts: 571
    I was expecting to see a headless Ned emerge from the crypt.
  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    joecoulson wrote: »
    I’m not sure if I’m lucky or just knew to have all ambient lights off or if my setup is that good, but the quality of the picture was amazing. Yes dark, but no subtle details were lost. Maybe a little to realistic for some in a night battle? IDK
    But that last kill scene when Arya killed the Night king was brilliant. No Snow, or Dani or anyone else. Had to be her.
    Best episode yet I agree with @recoveryone

    it was brutal...had to keep pausing i as I couldn't handle watching it Sunday night... I am such apus....anyways Joe you hit it straight on...

    I only wish they took more time to do a head count...not sure what all happened?

    I felt Episode 2 was so much needed before the storm....we all knew this was coming... I say what hit me the Hardest but it would be a spoiler and I can not go there....(hint Bear island)
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,983
    I love Arya. She's been my favorite character since season 1.

    However, I tend to agree with this article I just read. That sex scene with Gendry felt unnecessary and forced. https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27220100/arya-stark-gendry-game-of-thrones-season-8-sex-scene/