CABLE TALK??

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 3,083
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I spent about $16 on cables....all of them.

    That's more than I have spent on cable TV in the last 10 years.
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 817
    ptrooper wrote: »
    They will be replaced with shotguns in the future :)

    Now you're talking. These MH750's just arrived yesterday to replace my Terminator 4's. To me it's money well spent on yet another upgrade. kmtx8aky6iyd.jpg
  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 238
    edited January 9
    Noice,you should hear a big difference there.Please let me know what you think during and after burn in!
    Im going to replace my transparent reference mm2 rca with reference xl mm2 balanced to the main rig in the very near future...exciting stuff,gets the heart rate up and a little woody always. <3
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,453
    HAHAHAHAHA, WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!! Wire is wire is wire. I bought my Wirewirld SIlver Equinox because I thought the outside casing thing was cool. Plus, if times get tight I can melt the wire down and sell the silver. SUCKERS!!!
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • halohalo Posts: 4,304
    edited January 9
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    The whole cable debate will never go away. It's simply not in the human condition for everyone to see eye to eye on this, or even discuss it in a civil manner most of the time.

    Between; ignorance, jealousy, personal economic standing, value perception and flat out refusal to learn this will always be a circular event.

    So, the chances for world peace are looking pretty slim :(

  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,453
    halo wrote: »
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    The whole cable debate will never go away. It's simply not in the human condition for everyone to see eye to eye on this, or even discuss it in a civil manner most of the time.

    Between; ignorance, jealousy, personal economic standing, value perception and flat out refusal to learn this will always be a circular event.

    So, the chances for world peace are looking pretty slim :(


    God, I want to be punished by her!
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,749
    lightman1 wrote: »
    I spent about $16 on cables....all of them.

    Many of mine were from the swap pile at the Harvard (MA) town dump.
    In fact, I decommissioned my foundling Monstrous cables some time back 'cause all y'all made fun of them.

    :)

    15775285592_828de568a5_b.jpgDSC_0586 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,749
    Say, I just had a wry thought -- as hifi moves inexorably to wireless technologies, are their going to be high-end aether providers to improve the transmission of wifi signals?
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
  • tonyp063tonyp063 Posts: 398
    Mark, that's a can o' worms you do *not* want to open.
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 754
    What a way to screw up a good thread I was following for the discussion and debates that were occurring about the thread topic.
    You see I haven’t debated cables at all, only what provokes one to argue. I am not seeing where my thinking is delusional at all. All I see is support for my original claim.

    As a global moderator on a different forum this is what I would have to say about your above post and your previous posts.

    Based upon your posting history in this thread, it seems like the goal was to start an Internet pissing match vs. good discussion/debate. We're not asking you to walk on egg shells when you post, just be mindful of why you're posting. Our goal is to foster fun, interesting, and sincere discussion, even if a little "spirited". Thanks for your cooperation.

    Please I am not trolling at all. I don’t think I have been anything but respectful. Jesse is a big boy and it was his choice to respond to my post.

    Right....

    Nice try with your edit below you added to the above post, it doesn't change the picture you painted of yourself in your previous posts.... It didn't even make it prettier.
    The original question was what makes a cable thread go south, was it not?

    I answered that question. Jesse disagreed and commented that it’s always the naysayers. I think I was able to demonstrate that that isn’t always the case, we haven’t heard from the naysayers, and that my original post is more true than false.

    And for the record I am in the camp who has heard differences in cable and believe that cables can and will tune ones system to their liking.


    Nice avatar by the way it seems fitting for some reason.

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    Is it only me or is there a resemblance???

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    Can we please try to stay on topic some of us actually are interested in it.

    I for one would like to see this thread continue without the bs. Thanks.





    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,828
    Reminds me of the DSG vs. Manual transmission threads on a Volkswagen forum I frequent.

    Electronically controlled dual clutch manual vs. a human controlled single clutch manual. Exactly the same type of attitudes and responses as the cable debates. I found it quite interesting how the template can be layed over either debate and it lines up pretty well.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 754
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Reminds me of the DSG vs. Manual transmission threads on a Volkswagen forum I frequent.

    Electronically controlled dual clutch manual vs. a human controlled single clutch manual. Exactly the same type of attitudes and responses as the cable debates. I found it quite interesting how the template can be layed over either debate and it lines up pretty well.

    I'll pick an electronically shifted dual clutch manual transmission that requires a floor mounted clutch pedal for use in first gear personally.
    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 754
    I just want to figure out a good economical speaker cable to use. I agree that cable makes a difference but it seems the cost factor increases dramatically and the improvement doesn't change as exponentially.
    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 23,828
    edited January 9
    That's a fair question and most of us have found our sweet spot in cables by experimenting.

    What do you feel comfortable paying? Not that wire quality is strictly dictated by $$. It follows for the most part, but like anything else there are excellent performers that punch higher than their typical price point.

    Something on the cheaper side that is excellent for it's price is Canare Star Quad 4S11. Typically bare, unterminated wire. But if you go to the Blue Jeans Cable website they will sell it terminated with whatever.

    Signal Cable has a couple great speaker cables as well as I/C's that perform well at their price point.

    Check out our own Heliptodoug (Douglas Cables) he makes some great cables too at a variety of price points.

    I personally have found my cables for life in MIT. They are spendy but are very much worth it (to the point I'm willing to pay), IMO.
    Post edited by heiney9 on
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

    Pass Aleph 30 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Plus DAC | MIT Shotgun S3 | MIT Z P/C's | updated SDA 1C| SQ Box Touch/Welbourne Labs P/S- Tubes add soul!
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,453
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    I just want to figure out a good economical speaker cable to use. I agree that cable makes a difference but it seems the cost factor increases dramatically and the improvement doesn't change as exponentially.

    Good points, not all wire/cables are proportional to price paid, and as Brock mentioned, they can get costly. Perhaps you could post area where you live and see if there is a member nearby. Maybe you could get together for a little wire sampling. Sometimes members have extra sets laying around that they may be willing to loan out to "well qualified individuals" as they say.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 754
    heiney9 wrote: »
    That's a fair question and most of us have found our sweet spot in cables by experimenting.

    What do you feel comfortable paying? Not that wire quality is strictly dictated by $$. It follows for the most part, but like anything else there are excellent performers that punch higher than their typical price point.

    Something on the cheaper side that is excellent for it's price is Canare Star Quad 4S11. Typically bare, unterminated wire. But if you go to the Blue Jeans Cable website they will sell it terminated with whatever.

    Signal Cable has a couple great speaker cables as well as I/C's that perform well at their price point.

    Check out our own Heliptodoug (Douglas Cables) he makes some great cables too at a variety of price points.

    I personally have found my cables for life in MIT. They are spendy but are very much worth it (to the point I'm willing to pay), IMO.

    I recently added two more systems so now I have two 2.1 channel systems and two 2 channel systems. I have some lower end MIT interconnects in 2 of them the other two are a mixture of interconnects that I've acquired over the years. For speaker wires I have some Blue Jeans Canare 4S11 Cables and Belden 5000 cables, the others are using some twisted wires that came with some speakers and an unknown brand.

    I do like the sound of MIT cables, I was one of the members who did the MIT cable exchange a few years ago. They were nice. My budget won't allow much higher end cables then what I have. Basically I will upgrade them one or two cables at a time and rotate the ones I have around as I replace the unknown ones. It's just going to take time.

    Three of the systems have B&K amps, one has a Halo 5 pre w/2.3's, another has Parasound 2100 pre w/SRS 2's the third uses either CRS+'s, M7 series II's or SDA 2A's speakers along with a Sherbourn pre. The forth system has a Yamaha AVR and Energy speakers.

    I still need room treatments too...

    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • Tony MTony M Posts: 5,883
    I used to be a skeptic too. But when I switched my main speaker wire on a very nice system, I heard the difference. The newer ones brought out the mids and highs. I'm a little hard of hearing in the high tweeter range, but I heard it and those wires are still being used. I wanted to switch back to the old ones just to do it before I buy some RD194's but things have been sidetracked for a long time. But that's on the list for this year.

    I don't have much money in these either. I also need to seriously upgrade my interconnects.

    Now the "Interconnects" world of cables will explode nowadays. More than it's already been.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • TNTsTunesTNTsTunes Posts: 754
    Tony M wrote: »
    I used to be a skeptic too. But when I switched my main speaker wire on a very nice system, I heard the difference. The newer ones brought out the mids and highs. I'm a little hard of hearing in the high tweeter range, but I heard it and those wires are still being used. I wanted to switch back to the old ones just to do it before I buy some RD194's but things have been sidetracked for a long time. But that's on the list for this year.

    I don't have much money in these either. I also need to seriously upgrade my interconnects.

    Now the "Interconnects" world of cables will explode nowadays. More than it's already been.

    I'm a little hard of hearing in the high tweeter range also. I like RDO's but I use somewhere between a .22ohm resistor to a jumper to replace the tweeter polyswitch. That way the tweeter runs a little more forward. It helps offset my hearing issue nicely, 198's sound great to me, some female voices just make me melt. 194's are still a nice improvement also.
    "Make a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Light
    a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,555
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    I just want to figure out a good economical speaker cable to use. I agree that cable makes a difference but it seems the cost factor increases dramatically and the improvement doesn't change as exponentially.

    Valid point Tim. Same can be said for speakers too or any other piece of gear. However, the cabling has to match up with the level of gear you have to get maximum results.

    In other words, having 5k speaker cables on a set of Monitor 7's isn't going to net you great results. Extreme example but you get the point. The same works in the opposite direction, signal cable on 5k speakers won't grant you the ability to hear what those speakers can do.....everything is relative.

    For the same reasons too that we upgrade cdp's or any other piece. There's always a perception of that weak link in ones system until you achieve the sound you like. Cabling is just another component, a piece of the puzzle, to get where you want to be sound wise.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 5,883
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    Tony M wrote: »
    I used to be a skeptic too. But when I switched my main speaker wire on a very nice system, I heard the difference. The newer ones brought out the mids and highs. I'm a little hard of hearing in the high tweeter range, but I heard it and those wires are still being used. I wanted to switch back to the old ones just to do it before I buy some RD194's but things have been sidetracked for a long time. But that's on the list for this year.

    I don't have much money in these either. I also need to seriously upgrade my interconnects.

    Now the "Interconnects" world of cables will explode nowadays. More than it's already been.

    I'm a little hard of hearing in the high tweeter range also. I like RDO's but I use somewhere between a .22ohm resistor to a jumper to replace the tweeter polyswitch. That way the tweeter runs a little more forward. It helps offset my hearing issue nicely, 198's sound great to me, some female voices just make me melt. 194's are still a nice improvement also.

    I've heard the RD-198's are the better tweeter but,

    I've also read on here that I can't use them on my Blade-Blade SDA-SRS2's. :#

    I've read where some guys wanted to try them anyway but never heard back from them on their threads. I missed a few years here, so maybe somebody has tried it anyway and left a response.

    Maybe some more advice from some veterans on which ones to get. I have a feeling I'm going to hear get the RD-194's again. I replaced one pr. of SDA-SRS2's with RD-194's and after 40+ hours, they seems to sound better and brighter. Not as bright as the sl-2000's though. Female voices were a lot better though. Sibilance was greatly reduced!

    Still, I'd love to try those RD-198's sometime in my life. :p
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,560
    RDO194 for the B/b. I believe inspiredsports did do the mod to use rdo198 but two board B/b speakers can be a lot of work to get it done.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 5,883
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    RDO194 for the B/b. I believe inspiredsports did do the mod to use rdo198 but two board B/b speakers can be a lot of work to get it done.

    Thanks. ;)

    That's what I was afraid of. :(

    I don't want to invest a lot more than the tweeters and maybe the terminals on these. I have a pr. of Newform research R-645's that could use a cross-over upgrade for sure. They would be the ones I would do first if I get to that stage of getting back to spaciousness in the cave in a year or two.

    I might spring for the rod-194's and switch out that part mentioned above to get back a little more high range for my semi-thick eardrum issues. ;)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • teekay0007teekay0007 Posts: 2,061
    tonyb wrote: »
    In other words, having 5k speaker cables on a set of Monitor 7's isn't going to net you great results.

    Jeez, Tony, FIVE PAGES in and you tell me now? :o -calling the Cable Co. to cancel that Shunyata order!

  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 238
    Have you tried upgrading your components?
    kharp1 wrote: »
    HAHAHAHAHA, WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!! Wire is wire is wire. I bought my Wirewirld SIlver Equinox because I thought the outside casing thing was cool. Plus, if times get tight I can melt the wire down and sell the silver. SUCKERS!!!

  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,766
    ptrooper wrote: »
    Have you tried upgrading your components?
    kharp1 wrote: »
    HAHAHAHAHA, WHAT A BUNCH OF MORONS!!! Wire is wire is wire. I bought my Wirewirld SIlver Equinox because I thought the outside casing thing was cool. Plus, if times get tight I can melt the wire down and sell the silver. SUCKERS!!!

    It was tongue in cheek. In short order he will have one of the nicest systems on the forum.
    audiothesis.com/

    Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
    Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
    Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
    Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
    Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
    Cabling: Wireworld
    TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,453
    You think I'm kidding? I brought the wires in here to work and put them in a old dutch oven and ran them through the paint ovens till they were separated...looks like I'm getting about $50 for the metal. Who's the fool now???
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 2,453
    On a more serious, back on track note, I recently picked up a pair of Silnote Morpheus Reference II on the cheap off Audio Circle and was pleasantly and very surprised. I put them in place of the Wireworld Silver Equinox between the Joule and the Butler and felt they were at least equal to the Wireworld. I don't see them often pre owned, but, will keep an eye out in hopes of doing a complete secondary rig setup with them.
    Main System:
    Joule-Electra LA 100 MKIII
    Pass Labs Aleph 30, McCormack DNA-125, Parasound A21
    Marantz SA-14S1
    Usher CP-6311/Tyler Acoustics Taylo Reference Monitor, LSA-1
    Dual SVS SB2000
    Wireworld Equinox 7 bi-wire, Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 IC

    Secondary Rig:
    Parasound P5, Audio Electronics by Cary Constellation
    Marsh a200s, Audio Elecrtonics by Cary Hercules
    Pioneer Elite DV-45a, Denon DVD-2910
    Klipsch Epic CF-1, Vandersteen 3CE sig
    Analysus Plus Oval

  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,262
    kharp1 wrote: »
    On a more serious, back on track note, I recently picked up a pair of Silnote Morpheus Reference II on the cheap off Audio Circle and was pleasantly and very surprised. I put them in place of the Wireworld Silver Equinox between the Joule and the Butler and felt they were at least equal to the Wireworld. I don't see them often pre owned, but, will keep an eye out in hopes of doing a complete secondary rig setup with them.

    I am using a couple osi myself and like then.
    Pio Elete Pro 520
    Panamax 5400-EX
    Sunfire TGP 5
    Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
    PS Audio GCPH phono pre
    Sunfire CG 200 X 5
    Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
    OPPO BDP-83 SE
    SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
    Ctr CS1000p
    Sur - FX1000 x 4
    SUB - SVS PB2-Plus

    Workkout room:
    Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
    Onkyo TX-DS898
    GFA 555
    Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
    Ft - SDA 1C

    Not being used:
    RTi 38's -4
    RT55i's - 2
    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
    LSI 15's
    CSi40
    PSW 404
  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 6,592
    tonyb wrote: »
    TNTsTunes wrote: »
    I just want to figure out a good economical speaker cable to use. I agree that cable makes a difference but it seems the cost factor increases dramatically and the improvement doesn't change as exponentially.

    Valid point Tim. Same can be said for speakers too or any other piece of gear. However, the cabling has to match up with the level of gear you have to get maximum results.

    In other words, having 5k speaker cables on a set of Monitor 7's isn't going to net you great results. Extreme example but you get the point. The same works in the opposite direction, signal cable on 5k speakers won't grant you the ability to hear what those speakers can do.....everything is relative.

    For the same reasons too that we upgrade cdp's or any other piece. There's always a perception of that weak link in ones system until you achieve the sound you like. Cabling is just another component, a piece of the puzzle, to get where you want to be sound wise.

    Just my2 cents

    I believe a $5000 speaker with signal cable will sound better than a $250 speaker with $5000 speaker cable.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs DAC2x and TSDX Transport -> Cary SLP-05 preamp -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2

    Old Gear:
    Speakers: BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source: Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification: Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased)
    Amplification: HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer: Infinity Entra2 sub -> SVS 25-31PC+ sub
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 18,749
    edited January 12
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    September 1979.

    Smoglifters.

    In retrospect, I remember those...
    "It's like watching a roomful of people who couldn't get through college algebra discussing the flaws of quantum physics theory. I guess it could be fun, but it's ultimately a waste of time." -- seen on audiokarma

    "Some amps run on self bias, some amps run on fixed bias. But his amps run on confirmation bias." -- seen on audioasylum

    "Writing about hifi is like dancing about architecture" -- paraphrasing some wag (possibly Frank Zappa)
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