CABLE TALK??
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An often missed "sub-topic" is the cables' topology, an its potential effects.Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Mike, the Audioshark owner, is amazed by them, and puts them up against the mega-buck cables.
Personally, I am amazed they beat the Zitron Anaconda, which can pass a 10KHz square wave unchanged. Then again, they cost almost twice as much as the Anacondas.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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You mean....wire isn't just wire ? Oh say it ain't so lol
Couldn't help myself there, as we all heard the same song and dance over the years. It always makes me grin though, when someone who was skeptical tries it for themselves and becomes a believer. Which btw, opens yet another rabbit hole in this hobby.
Most of us will agree, ya have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
It's peace of mind. If you've invested heavily in higher quality cables you can rest easy knowing you've done all you can to get the most out of your equipment.
Personally, I believe room acoustics and speaker placement are far more important but that hasn't kept me from buying #12 copper for all of my speaker cables as well as gold or silver connectors. -
(from the 'Hey - hold my beer' thread)
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A pic of the ever elusive lightman?
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All this talk of cables today.....UPS just now sent me a notice that my shipment of my new to me MIT speaker cables is going to be delayed getting here courtesy of Brody
I was hoping to have them for the weekend but it looks like that idea just went to hell. -
LOL. I went through that with my new preamp. It was supposed to arrive on the Friday before Xmas, then Saturday, and finally arrived late Tuesday night.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
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I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Had my 2016 review today at work. Placed an order for 2 meter Shunyata Sigma speaker cables with spades right after the review. Once I am used to the sound of the speaker cables I will be getting the Sigma XLR interconnects. Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Had my 2016 review today at work. Placed an order for 2 meter Shunyata Sigma speaker cables with spades right after the review. Once I am used to the sound of the speaker cables I will be getting the Sigma XLR interconnects.
Where’s my beer?
Lol, congrats on the cables.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
nooshinjohn wrote: »I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Had my 2016 review today at work. Placed an order for 2 meter Shunyata Sigma speaker cables with spades right after the review. Once I am used to the sound of the speaker cables I will be getting the Sigma XLR interconnects.
Where’s my beer?
Waiting for the Super Bowl.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits. -
You are welcome to deliver it if you like. Would be good to meet you in person.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Had my 2016 review today at work. Placed an order for 2 meter Shunyata Sigma speaker cables with spades right after the review. Once I am used to the sound of the speaker cables I will be getting the Sigma XLR interconnects.
Now that's ballerMagico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
mhardy6647 wrote: »
(from the 'Hey - hold my beer' thread)
Good times..... -
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Dyn-o-mite.
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I think my next audio purchase will be the new TOTL Shunyata Sigma speaker cables. Then we can some cable talk. All I can say now is that better cables have made a tremendous improvement in my system. When you find something that works then stick with it.
My local friend has a set, he loves them.
Had my 2016 review today at work. Placed an order for 2 meter Shunyata Sigma speaker cables with spades right after the review. Once I am used to the sound of the speaker cables I will be getting the Sigma XLR interconnects.
Now that's baller
7500 bucks for speaker cables
2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Those above are the Jecklin Float electrostatic headphones.
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There is so much polyester in that soul train video... I could only take it for a few seconds before my head wanted to explode.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
It is very much of its time
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mhardy6647 wrote: »
Boy the 70's stunk and it's been all downhill since. -
The real issue with high end wire is the haters actually have valid points. I will go on record to say most of high end wire is pure bull crap.
Over the decades I've been in the business and a hobbyist with countless testing of all kinds of wire, my opinion holds true. Even in my favorite brands ( Audioquest, Kimber and Cardas) there are points where their cables also become bull crap. These companies are in the business to make the best cables they can BUT they also are in the market to make money. If they can sell it they will build it.
Now with all that being said I could care less what anyone wants to buy use and for any reason. I'm not here to judge anyone. If you ask me about wire and want to know my option on a brand or what not I'm going to tell you without holding anything back.
When you spent as much time researching and hanging out with actual Electrical Engineers and manufactures of wire and products like speaker and amp companies as I have, you get to learn what **** is and what real science is behind creating a proper conductor.
The other issue is the other side of the fence who swears that wire X is the best stuff on the planet and puts their bull crap on other people and shame them for not agreeing. I find this equally as annoying and pointless as people who talk about wire doesn't matter.
Both parties are retarded on all kinds of levels just so you ALL know. Your arguments are pointless and stupid both ways. Key words today is Pointless and Stupid.
This is why these threads go south because all of you can't get along without shaming each other. There are members in here who gang up on someone who doesn't drink their cool aid and then there are others who like to troll and get a raise out of said camp. Again both sides are just flat out retarded.
I would be apart of these groups if I went around saying if you don't use audioquest, Kimber or Cardas your stupid mental and shouldn't be on this forum. If you don't agree with me I should insult you personally and find ways to make you look worse then you already are. These are things I'm not interested in at all. At one time I use to get involved in pointless debates and shaming but I now think it's such a waste of MY time.
So you can choose to get involved in pointless debates or you can talk about cables in a civil sense. believe whatever you want to believe, buy whatever the F you want to buy just don't but your bull crap from either side on the other.
Dan
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I have some cables.
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I dunno Dan, seems to me your doing exactly what you rail against. For instance...
The real issue with high end wire is the haters actually have valid points. I will go on record to say most of high end wire is pure bull crap.
Most the haters have little to no experience with higher end cables. You yourself promote AQ cables....and if they didn't matter as you suggest, everything in your rig would be an entry level cable.
When you spent as much time researching and hanging out with actual Electrical Engineers and manufactures of wire and products like speaker and amp companies as I have, you get to learn what **** is and what real science is behind creating a proper conductor.
Speculation and opinions abound, but what your saying is those who spend a ton of time and who's actual job it is designing cables is B.S. and their experiences and knowledge mean nothing compared to yours.
This is why these threads go south because all of you can't get along without shaming each other. There are members in here who gang up on someone who doesn't drink their cool aid and then there are others who like to troll and get a raise out of said camp. Again both sides are just flat out retarded.
oK, AREN'T YOU DOING THAT RIGHT HERE ?
I would be apart of these groups if I went around saying if you don't use audioquest, Kimber or Cardas your stupid mental and shouldn't be on this forum. If you don't agree with me I should insult you personally and find ways to make you look worse then you already are. These are things I'm not interested
Uh....you have said, many times that AQ was the be all end all. If your not interested in cable discussions, there is a simple remedy.....stay the frick out of those discussions.
Sorry Dan, the hypocrisy is just blaring here.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Look gents, audio holds many opinions, levels of experiences. The forum exists in part to share those experiences. Doesn't validate any as written in stone, but offers a way to discuss various opinions, with the end goal of improving your audio experience/journey because the bottom line is we are all music lovers.
Does that make sense ?
Some of us play on different levels than others. Levels I will never see, or possibly you too. That doesn't mean their audio opinions are B.S. because I haven't experienced them personally. The reaction for some is to knock down those who play at higher levels to their own to validate their own opinions to themselves. That's the real B.S..
Most here will stand by the statement of "enjoy your music as you see fit". However if your interested in furthering that enjoyment, many here with many levels of skills and experiences to help you along the way.
Does audio hold some snake oil, sure does...what doesn't these days, right ? That's why anyone looking to further their musical enjoyment should look to those with experiences that mirror the path you wish to take.
That's about as much common sense I can inject into the discussion for one day. I have my limits. HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Everybody has their own opinion on everything. Fortunately we all don't agree with each other.
The endThe best way to predict the future is to invent it.
It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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