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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,125
    I hesitate doing too many room treatments since it's a rental, but I might post up a pic or two and see what people suggest. Even though it'll be embarrassing how lame my speakers have to be positioned.

    I think the room might actually be slightly overdamped currently, but that's just my uneducated opinion.

    And yeah maybe if I get a VTI rack I'll notice an aural improvement straight away with no other tweaks...?!
    DSkip wrote: »
    I don't think your system is far off if at all from showing those kinds of changes. The key is a solid cable foundation and treated room. It doesn't even have to be overblown, just focus on first reflections first.

    Those are the two areas that made subtle differences blow into big ones in my own system.

  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,756
    edited January 2018
    If one has some DIY skills, time, and patience can make something with the look and quality of some of a $1500-$3500 rack for much less. I ran across a craigslist listing that has a DIY rack in the picture. It reminds me of some other DIY racks that use brass hardware that emulate the Samason racks sold at the Mapleshape site: http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Equipment-Racks/departments/16/

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    Tons of ideas around the net, forums, pinterest, etc.
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    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,125
    Couldn't hurt to try!
    DSkip wrote: »
    Some panels and command strips can go a long ways.

  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,430
    edited January 2018
    Clipdat wrote: »

    It's possible Bud's system is just really THAT much more revealing, and thus the little things like isolation feet start to add up and make a difference.

    When I first realized the benefits of clean power, and vibration elimination, I was using Cambridge Audio pre and amps, Wadia iTransport for iPod, and a Bryston DAC. All this on a flimsy home entertainment center. I was amazed at the improvement every time I upgraded a power cable, conditioner, a brass footer. The gear I have now is based on that foundation.

    Also, at that time I was using a shared circuit that the whole left side of the house used.

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    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 17,098
    WLDock wrote: »
    If one has some DIY skills, time, and patience can make something with the look and quality of some of a $1500-$3500 rack for much less. I ran across a craigslist listing that has a DIY rack in the picture. It reminds me of some other DIY racks that use brass hardware that emulate the Samason racks sold at the Mapleshape site: http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Equipment-Racks/departments/16/

    00101_h3yBiKPy4Mb_1200x900.jpg

    Tons of ideas around the net, forums, pinterest, etc.

    PM me that CL ad lol...
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    DSkip wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Thanks for the insight. You might have better ears than I do. I don't know if I'd be able to discern/detect a sound wave's vibration/impact on the equipment and the associated negative sound quality.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    The vibrations on the equipment rack, and on the equipment, come from the speaker sound waves hitting them. Gear is susceptible to the tiniest vibrations, and those vibrations alter the sound. That is why in addition to having a solid, vibration resistant rack, the gear should also be on some type of vibration draining footer. I use Mapleshade Micropoint Brass footers, but there are other vendors and types.

    Don't ever say that again please. You can hear a difference... everyone can. If your system was at his level those details can greatly alter the sound. You would be intimately familiar with the sound and pick up on it quickly.

    I'm not being mean but that type of thinking is deadly to growth in this hobby. It represents a closed mind in a way.

    You don't know what you don't know, as the saying goes. I had to take myself out of the mindset of "most of that stuff is bull, and, wouldn't matter on my meager system" and actually try some stuff id just ignored because it was easier than having to spend money on something that "probably won't make a difference anyway." I started room treatments with acoustic foam purchased from Walmart online and placed on the wall with painters tape. Easy, removable and enlightening.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,454
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's all about lowering the noise floor, which is something one doesn't notice until it is lowered.

    Spot on here. Most don't know they even have an abundance of it, until it's gone and the results are eye opening. Because most don't realize they even have noise, they fail to even pursue cures for it.

    Which, sometimes your better off being blinded, your wallet may appreciate that fact. :)

    Nice racks btw, wish someone could make a reasonable one though that doesn't cost used car kinda money and looks nice.
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    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Sonos zp90
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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,756
    edited January 2018
    WLDock wrote: »
    If one has some DIY skills, time, and patience can make something with the look and quality of some of a $1500-$3500 rack for much less. I ran across a craigslist listing that has a DIY rack in the picture. It reminds me of some other DIY racks that use brass hardware that emulate the Samason racks sold at the Mapleshape site: http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Equipment-Racks/departments/16/

    00101_h3yBiKPy4Mb_1200x900.jpg

    Tons of ideas around the net, forums, pinterest, etc.

    PM me that CL ad lol...
    Coming your way, its from CL South Bend.


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    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,276
    FYI--Timber Nation will do custom work including just slabs. He would do slaps with pre-drilled holes if you wanted to do a DIY Maple Shades stand, just tell him what you want. He'll also put the custom stains.

    pricing and shipping is very reasonable. Chris Futrick is his name and really a nice guy

    If you go back to the LSAF threads (pics of my rooms) all the rack and amp stands were made by Timber Nation
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • WLDockWLDock Posts: 2,756
    Here's an expensive rack that I think is cool. I actually misses out a chance to purchase one of their entry racks for a couple of hundred. I like the vented banboo shelves.

    Quadraspire X Reference
    quadraspire.com
    https://www.needledoctor.com/Quadraspire-X-Reference-Audio-Rack

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    FAMILY ROOM
    HDTV - Sharp AQUOS LC-70LE600U 70" | AVR/Streamer - Onkyo TX-NR3008 | Amp - Parasound HCA-1203A
    Blu-Ray/Media/Gaming - Sony PS3-320GB / Microsoft Xbox One | Broadcast - Xfinity X1 Platform
    Front Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Center Spkrs - Coming...DIY Statement II | Rear Spkrs - Artison Portrait LRS
    Sub - DIY Stereo Integrity HT 15 | Sub Amp - Dayton Audio SA1000
    Wire - Audioquest Type 4, BJC Belden 5000 | HDMI - BJC Belden | Power Cables - Pangea | Surge - Monster
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    FYI--Timber Nation will do custom work including just slabs. He would do slaps with pre-drilled holes if you wanted to do a DIY Maple Shades stand, just tell him what you want. He'll also put the custom stains.

    pricing and shipping is very reasonable. Chris Futrick is his name and really a nice guy

    If you go back to the LSAF threads (pics of my rooms) all the rack and amp stands were made by Timber Nation

    Going to contact Mapleshade tomorrow and see if I can order the gold/brass nuts, washers and cap nuts. I kind of like that idea. Could probably drill them out myself with a good Forstner bit. I can handle the stain part as well. Been looking, off and on, past year or two for the hardware like Mapleshade uses, but, I haven't found it, or anything like it.

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,125
    Oh hell yes! Those vented bamboo shelves are perfect!
    WLDock wrote: »
    Here's an expensive rack that I think is cool. I actually misses out a chance to purchase one of their entry racks for a couple of hundred. I like the vented banboo shelves.

  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,431
    I'll reel this back in a bit with Salamander Designs racks which are a little more budget-friendly, and still fully adjustable and customizable.
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    https://www.salamanderdesigns.com/modular-open-stands/ I picked-up a used one on CL for storing bullpen components.

    For strictly turntable setup, I have one of these from Turntable Lab.
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    https://www.turntablelab.com/collections/turntable-listening-packages-alpha/products/line-phono-turntable-station These are quite solid and heavy, especially once weighted-down with a couple hundred records. I can actually move records in-and-out of the shelves with a record playing without any skipping.

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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 9,123
    edited January 2018
    I built speaker stands using the same interlocking slots as that bottom rack. My stands tilted the speakers backward a little bit. And there was no glue or nails or screws. They were super strong and rigid too. Everybody liked them. They were kind-of hobo artsy.

    And I could take them apart and lay em flat. I used 1/4" Birch plywood though. I might still have them but I doubt it.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,125
    edited January 2018
    Nice. I remember when TTL first introduced that stand. Pretty nice piece, but a lot of people were complaining about the price and that it's MDF.

    I'm pretty much sold on this VTI BL404SC rack at this point, with an additional 7" shelf added. Seems like it's a decent combination of looks, performance, and low price.

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  • machonemachone Posts: 1,237
    I bought a VTI with glass shelving. Loved the look but the glass ringed so a cut 3/4" mdf shelving to put under the glass. Filled the posts with sand. All good now!

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/179843/new-rack#latest
    Mojo Audio Illuminati v3>>Quantum Byte w/LMS>>Rpi/PiCoreplayer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Mojo Audio Mystique v2 SE>>ModWright SWL 9.0 SE Signature>>Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts Fully Modded)>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...Velodyne Optimum 8 subwoofer
    1KVA Dreadnought

    Marantz SA 8005
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
    Sony PS4

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

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  • Joey_VJoey_V Posts: 7,322
    Nice choice w vti

    I have one. Someday when I have extra cash I’ll spring for a new rack, but the vti has been so dependable, you’d have to spend a lot more to get significant gains.
    Joey's Gear:
    Current Gear:
    Torus RM15 -> Emm Labs TSDx/Bluesound Node 2 -> Emm Labs DAC2x -> ??? -> Boulder 2060 stereo amp (w/ Audioquest WEL Signature) -> new speakers + JL Audio F113v2 x2
    Rotel RA1592 Super Integrated -> Sonus Faber Olympica 3
    Oppo 105D -> Rotel RC1570 preamp -> Rotel RB1582 amp -> Focal Kanta 2


    Main speakers system evolution over the years:
    Klipsch Promedia 4.1 -> Axiom M22ti -> Sonus Faber Concertino -> Sonus Faber Concerto -> Polk LSi7 -> Polk LSi9 -> Martin Logan Mosaic -> AV123 Onix Ref 1 -> Martin Logan Vantage -> AV123 Strata Mini -> Martin Logan Summit -> Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor -> BW 802D2 -> Sonus Faber Stradivari -> Rockport Avior -> BW 802D3 -> BW 800D3 -> ???

    Old Gear:
    Speakers:
    BW PM1 (3.5/5), CM10s2 (3.75/5), BW800D3 (5/5), Rockport Aviors (5/5), Sonus Faber Stradivari (5/5), BW 802D2 (4.5/5), Martin Logan Summits (4.25/5), Martin Logan Vantage (4/5), Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor (3.75/5), AV123 Strata Mini (3.5/5), ML Mosaic (3.25/5), Onix Ref1 (3/5), Sonus Faber Concerto (2.75/5), SF Concertino (2.5/5), Axiom M22ti (2/5), Polk LSi9 (3/5), LSi7 (2.9/5)
    Source:
    Squeezebox 3 -> PS Audio Digital Link III -> Cary 306/200 CDP -> Cary 306 SACD -> EMM LABS DAC2X/TSDX
    Preamplification:
    Rotel RC1070 -> Rogue Perseus -> Cary SLP98 -> Cary SLP98F1 -> Cary SLP05 (sold and then repurchased) -> ARC 5se -> ???
    Amplification:
    HK AVR330 -> Rotel RB1070 -> Rotel RB1090 -> Plinius SA102 -> Cary 211FE -> Classe M600 -> Boulder 2060
    Subwoofer:
    Infinity Entra2 -> SVS 25-31PCi -> SVS 25-31PC+ -> Dual JL Audio F113v2
  • Clipdat wrote: »
    Went with the VTI BL404SC I posted above. Seemed to be the best price to performance ratio, it also looks damn good, IMO. Thanks to @helipilotdoug for the deal. Anyone looking for a VTI rack should hit up Douglas Connection.

    Pretty excited that I'll have a proper equipment rack soon!

    Thank you Drew :) Looks like your rack and extra shelf will be delivered tomorrow. Fun weekend ahead for you!
    Sunfire Theater Grand IV
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature
    SRS 2.1TL
    SDA 2BTL's
    CSiA6
    FXiA4
    FXiA6
    SDA 2A's
    Monitor 10A's

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  • What do think of BDI? Are they quality pieces? I’m looking for something around 48 inches wide.
    HT- Samsung PN50B860/Integra DTR 30.3/Rt55 Fronts
    Rt35i Surrounds/Cs1000p Center/SVS BP1000 Sub
    2CH - B&K MC-101 pre/B&K EX-442 amp/NAD 2400 amp
    Polk SDA1C, Polk Monitor 7, New Large Advents and Polk RTA 8T
    BR - Yamaha CR800/Polk monitor 5
  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 1,320
    What do think of BDI? Are they quality pieces? I’m looking for something around 48 inches wide.

    The VTI BL503 is a great rack, Its 44" wide. I run one in my 2 channel setup
    XMkEuCF.jpg
    2 Channel - Dual Purpose system in the works

    Polk LSIM707 I Polk LSIM 706C I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Marantz AV7707 I B&K Ref 200.7 I Rega P6 w/ Ania MC I Rega Fono MC I Audience Ohno ICs/Audience Forte F3 Power Chord/Acoustic Zen Satori I Cambridge 851N


  • verbverb Posts: 10,203
    Am i imagining something, but was there a rack pic on this thread (hint-bikini clad)? Was it removed?
    Basement: Polk SDA SRS,Cary SLP-05 Pre,Enlightened Audio Designs CD Transport,Northstar Designs Excelsio DAC,Cambridge 851N streamer,Marantz SA-14 SACD,McIntosh MC300 Amp,Silnote Morpheus Ref2 Digital Cable,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Pangea Power Cables,Wireworld Oasis 8 RCA IC's,MIT Shotgun S3 IC's,MIT Shotgun S1 Bi-Wire speaker cables
    Office: PC,EAR Acute CD Player,EAR 834L Pre,Northstar Designs Intenso DAC,PASS ACA Monoblocks,Denon UDR-F10 Cassette,Acoustic Technologies Classic FR Speakers,SVS SB12 Plus sub,MIT AVt2 speaker cables,IFI Purifier2,AQ Cinnamon USB cable,Groneberg Quatro Reference IC's
    Spare Room: Antique Sound Labs Wave AV-8 Monoblocks,Tisbury Mini Passive Pre,Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38),Analysis Plus Oval 9's,Zu Jumpers,AudioEngine B1 Streamer,Klipsch RB-61 v2,SVS PB1000 sub,Blue Jeans RCA IC's
    Living Room: Peachtree Nova Integrated,Cambridge CXN v2 Streamer,Rotel RCD-1072 CD player,Furman 15PFi Power Conditioner,Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers,Polk DSW Pro 660wi sub
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,125
    Yep, @Rick88 posted up some jugs that he couldn't afford, but now it's gone. Nice.
    verb wrote: »
    Am i imagining something, but was there a rack pic on this thread (hint-bikini clad)? Was it removed?

  • tonybtonyb Posts: 32,454
    stangman67 wrote: »
    What do think of BDI? Are they quality pieces? I’m looking for something around 48 inches wide.

    The VTI BL503 is a great rack, Its 44" wide. I run one in my 2 channel setup
    XMkEuCF.jpg

    Nice man, sweet, clean looking set-up. How's those Focals breaking in for ya ?
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • audioluvraudioluvr Posts: 2,283
    My bad. I posted the unedited version. Here's the racks I like best.

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    One foot on audio nirvana and the other in the poor house.
  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 1,320
    edited February 2018
    tonyb wrote: »
    stangman67 wrote: »
    What do think of BDI? Are they quality pieces? I’m looking for something around 48 inches wide.

    The VTI BL503 is a great rack, Its 44" wide. I run one in my 2 channel setup
    XMkEuCF.jpg

    Nice man, sweet, clean looking set-up. How's those Focals breaking in for ya ?


    Focals are sounding good. Mullards have been the best tube match so far as the top end is still strong on those speakers
    2 Channel - Dual Purpose system in the works

    Polk LSIM707 I Polk LSIM 706C I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Marantz AV7707 I B&K Ref 200.7 I Rega P6 w/ Ania MC I Rega Fono MC I Audience Ohno ICs/Audience Forte F3 Power Chord/Acoustic Zen Satori I Cambridge 851N


  • soundfreak1soundfreak1 Posts: 2,867
    If she played her cards right......she could get lucky with me!
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
  • muncybobmuncybob Posts: 2,319
    That VTI BL503 is something we might consider. A reservation though would be how does it handle being bumped by a wife running a vacuum cleaner? Do the points sit into a dimple of some sort to help lock/stabilize the shelves?
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Oppo BDP93, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B.
  • marvda1marvda1 Posts: 4,047
    yes they do.
    Amplifiers: MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800,Kinki Studio EX-M1
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Transport/Dac: L.K.S MH-DA004, Cayin Venus cd-100i, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkI,
    Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2, Analysis Plus Black Mesh Oval 9,
    Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme
    Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2, Gabriel Gold Reckoning
    Power Cables by: Cullen Cables, 6sons Audio, Swiss Cables
  • stangman67stangman67 Posts: 1,320
    edited February 2018
    Yop the stand is extremely stable. You’d have to hit it with a truck to know one of the “shelving units off
    2 Channel - Dual Purpose system in the works

    Polk LSIM707 I Polk LSIM 706C I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Marantz AV7707 I B&K Ref 200.7 I Rega P6 w/ Ania MC I Rega Fono MC I Audience Ohno ICs/Audience Forte F3 Power Chord/Acoustic Zen Satori I Cambridge 851N


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