Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 demo: Logistics
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The Rhumba is on its way back to Backert for a once over.
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I'm sure it doesn't matter, but just out of curiousity was the trip from CA to WA via UPS or FedEx?The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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BackertLabs wrote: »I'm sure it doesn't matter, but just out of curiousity was the trip from CA to WA via UPS or FedEx?
Knowing John....it was by pack Mule.....Greyhound bus.....then handed off to a delivery service by the name of 2 kids and a big wheel.
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Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
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Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
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I have had issues with all of them BUT I have had better luck in general with fedEx vs ups or usps
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Everything I have bought/karma'd from John has been very well packaged.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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The Rhumba was packed very well so no fault to John, or Backert for that matter. That preamp has been shipped all over God's country and back and strange things can happen. I am glad that they are a stand up company that backs their products and I have future interest in having them modify my McCormack.
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I have had issues with all of them BUT I have had better luck in general with fedEx vs ups or usps
You had issues with pack Mules and 2 Kids and a big wheel ? Good to know you had better luck, in general, with FedEx. LMAO !!
Just bustin' John's chops a bit, I'm sure he packed it like it was his own private parts inside the box.
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Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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Hope you have some blue tac under the jar, you guys are primed and pumped for another big one out there.

Blue tac for blue balls in a jar....yeah, makes sense.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Just received the Rhumba. Thanks Brian. We will get this back to you shortly.
-AndyThe preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com -
Andy's on the ball as usual. How about having the big dogs sign the back for the man, we audiophiles get off on these things.
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Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
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I figured this would be a 1-day turnaround, maybe a part gone bad. But so far we have done a large number of tests on the Rhumba, on the bench and in various stereo systems, and have not found any problem. It sounds great - it must be psychology working here but I feel like this is my personal favorite Rhumba. Yet it clearly had an issue at Brian's place. Today we will subject it to another test that we came up with last night. We will keep you posted.The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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BackertLabs wrote: »It sounds great - it must be psychology working here but I feel like this is my personal favorite Rhumba.
I'm rather fond of it myself. Thanks for all of the work and time you have spent on the unit and I can't wait to get it back!
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Hows about an update on this....is it back in the rig yet ?
Just wondering too if Andy has a beater Rhumba laying around, if there is such a thing, that might find it's way back around Chicago. Never hurts to ask, right ?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
We will be sending back Brian's Rhumba in a couple days. As for the question: if you're paying shipping, you are welcome to another demo. Was that the question?The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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Hey Polkies,
First and foremost I have to give the highest of praises to all at Backert Labs for being an outstanding company. We have been in constant contact and they are a real pleasure to deal with.
After putting my Rhumba on the bench and running several different tests trying to recreate my situation they concluded that there was actually nothing wrong with the unit. I am sure they would be willing to go into a little more detail on the tests that they performed. We talked several differnt times about how I had it set up, cabling used and possible interferences and they were not able to recreate the noise that was happening in my system. Hopefully it was some passing bad audio juju I had. I think I will burn some sage just to make sure.
In the end, Bob and Andy offered to put all new guts into my old chassis and send it back and see if that fixes the issue. They also offered to burn in the unit, but I declined for two reasons. First, I felt that it would be a better way to get to know the Rhumba as a whole and second, I thought that it would be fun to give updates on the sound throughout the burn in process as there never was a chance to do that with one set of ears with the demo.
Thanks again Bob and Andy! I greatly appreciate your hard work and dedication.
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That's a heck of an offer from BL's man, to replace all the guts ? You won't find that too often in audio.
Good guys they are, all of them. Can't say enough good things about the company or people who run it and work behind the curtain. Anyone looking for a tubed pre needs to put this company on their radar if not at the top of their list.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I did not participate in the demo but I did followed this thread. I have to agree
that this company is first class.Since we don’t know where we are going we have to stick together in case someone gets there….Ken Kesey.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper REALLY likes you.
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Guys,
Thank you for your kind words. We just hope Brian is able to get back to the sound he experienced when he first demo'd the Rhumba.
We are wondering - anybody mind if we place some of these quotes from this demo on our website?The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com -
I say go for it!
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No problem here.
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Least we can do, you guys at BL's have been stellar all thru-out the demo. Just letting us Demo your product is not a common practice among manufacturers. We certainly appreciate that, use whatever you like.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Picked up the Rhumba from FedEx today and all is right in my world again. It even had that brand spanking new electronics smell that is quite alluring.
Straight out of the box the sound coming from the unit after the tubes warmed up is very engaging and I have not stopped listening for a couple of hours now. The sound stage is definitely not as wide or deep as I remember, but I know it will open up as time goes on. I have kept notes on certain songs and will keep referring to these songs as the Rhumba racks up the hours to see how the sound develops.
This is very exciting for me as I have never owned such a nice unit that is brand new and I am looking forward to the burn in process.
Also, a HUGE THANKS to Andy, Bob and Gary at Backert!!!!! They are great people to deal with and have gone way out of their way to make me, a lucky customer, happy! You guys are the best.
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