Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 demo: Logistics

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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 4,733
    Careful Tony, it starts becoming like crack the more you listen to it.

    Even with the noise, its a very musical preamp.
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  • daboyzdaboyz Posts: 4,885
    daboyz wrote: »
    If it's OK I could grab it for a listen.
    Thank you for being willing to pitch in - at this point we have "maxed out" on participation in this demo, unfortunately, but we appreciate the offer to help!

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Hand off went to Brock today as per plan. Shed a tear as I said goodbye to the little booger. I think both of them gave me the finger as they drove off.
    :)

    Brock and Andy can communicate further on time frames.
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  • Pretty sure the Rhumba was giving you this
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Could be Andy, at my age you start to see things. lol

    Brock is one of the good eggs, even though I yank his chain time to time. Be interesting to hear his thoughts and comparison to his mini-max. We had a nice chat for about an hour over lunch, good to see him again.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    I enjoyed seeing you again Tony and talking some shop. The hand off went without a hitch.

    Stay tuned..............

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  • Fri. Jan. 22: Rhumba 1.1 on its way back to the factory to receive dose of anti-hiss serum... stay tuned
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Fri. Jan. 22: Rhumba 1.1 on its way back to the factory to receive dose of anti-hiss serum... stay tuned

    A special serum....cool, does it work for E.D. too ? lol

    Glad to see everyone is staying diligent with this demo.....and Kudos to you guys over at BL for addressing the hiss problem. Top notch in my book.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Hows about an update on the Rhumba. Brock, did you get it back from Andy yet ?
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    No, not yet. But I sent it at the peak of the storm they got out there. Probably delayed a day or two
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  • We are sending it back to Brock today or tomorrow. Hopefully no weather or delivery-man problems will ensue!
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Good to know Andy. Did you guys get a handle on the noise issue ?
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    I just received a Fed Ex email shipping notice that it will be delivered tomorrow.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • tonyb wrote: »
    Good to know Andy. Did you guys get a handle on the noise issue ?
    Actually we checked out the unit and it was fine from our standpoint, i.e. within spec as far as tube noise. But to further reduce it, we did implement a new thing-a-ma-jig that Bob Backert has developed in response to the feedback we have received here, for which we thank you. We will wait to hear Brock's thoughts as to its effectiveness. If anybody wants to hear my thoughts, you are welcome to message me but I will stay mum here.
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    When I had it originally I did install lower gain CBS JHY-5814's and it might have lowered the tube noise a smidge. Not a hugely noticeable change, so we shall see.

    I didn't find the tube "hiss" to be objectionable from a listening enjoyment stand point. I couldn't hear it at idle from my listening position. But I suppose for the overall cost of the unit it might be a little irritating to hear that much hiss when I was close to the speakers. It wouldn't dissuade the purchase, however.

    The EE Mini Max was much quieter, but then they are different types of units. The Dared SL2000 I had was in between the two units. A bit more hiss than the EE and less than the Rhumba, to give some perspective.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    I received the Rhumba yesterday. Appears to be safe and sound. I will get it hooked back up tonight and start round 2.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • agfrostagfrost Posts: 2,252
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I received the Rhumba yesterday. Appears to be safe and sound. I will get it hooked back up tonight and start round 2.

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Good post Jay, Brock is going to have to learn those steps for his upcoming wedding....which I've heard we are all invited to.
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  • W WALDECKERW WALDECKER Posts: 895
    edited February 2016
    I just bought a pair of NOS testing Siemens labled Telefunken Long smooth plates with the diamond embossed on the bottom. I will give them a roll in the Rhumba 1.1 once they get here.http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bKMAAOSw5dNWsr7i/s-l1600.jpg
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    Ok, after tonight my time is done with the Rhumba. Who gets it next? I want to get this out tomorrow (Friday Feb 12th) as I won't be able to get to a Fed Ex drop until next Tuesday if I miss tomorrow's window.

    I will be posting some more thoughts in the very near future in the review thread.

    H9
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Talk to Andy Brock, he has the logistics all down pat.

    BTW, can we get a review from you before Easter ? lol
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    tonyb wrote: »

    BTW, can we get a review from you before Easter ? lol

    I gave up audio reviews for Lent.......lol.

    H9

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Well, it isn't Lent just yet bro, you still have time. Give the girlfriend a Benjamin and tell her to go buy something for 15 minutes while you write something up. Better yet, tell her to buy ME something. :)
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  • I have sent Toolfan66's information to Brock. Toolfan66 has indicated he's ready to receive. Cheers!
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    Cool....

    Let us know when you receive it so we can keep accurate track of BL's pre. Looking forward to more reviews....hint hint. :)
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    edited February 2016
    Tony, you can ask as many times as you want. I'll get to it when I get to it. It'll either be later tonight or not until next week as I am gone on a long weekend. ;) I feel it's important to give a detailed review since BL took the time to let us demo this unit.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 30,875
    If I didn't hound ya pal, like I have for years, where would all the fun be ? lol
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  • heiney9heiney9 Posts: 24,025
    I know, but sometimes life gets in the way.....lol. I just want to be able to give it the proper review and that's going to take a little bit of uninterrupted time. It's basically a before and after type review so my notes are a bit more than usual.

    But I promise I will be as timely as possible. :D

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 19,988
    I hope I have my new turntable ready to spin when this gets my way...
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