Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 demo: Logistics

BackertLabs
BackertLabs Posts: 117
edited March 2016 in 2 Channel Audio
This thread is for logistics of the Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 tube preamp demo. Who, where, when, that's it.

Reviews and discussion go in the "Backert Labs Rhumba Preamp" thread started by DSkip.

RULES

- Each person who gets the Rhumba will be responsible for the shipping cost to the next person, or driving it to them if you prefer.
- Must use FedEx or UPS, must insure for $2,000. By participating, you agree that the $2,000 or any smaller recovery for damage goes to Backert Labs.

- Each person gets to have the preamp for 7 days.

- If you receive it on a Saturday, you don't have to mail it out until the next Monday because each guy deserves a full weekend.
- You must keep checking this forum -- if you are coming up on the list and you'll be out of town, communication with me will be essential. My email is andytebbe @ Gmail.com

PACKING LIST

Each listener must ensure that when forwarding the preamp, he is sending:
1. Preamp, wrapped in its plastic envelope and surrounded with grey packing foam
2. The remote control, in plastic envelope and taped securely in the grey foam
3. Repeat: remote control !!
4. Power cord
5. Manual
6. Original tubes it came with
7. Your NOS Telefunken smooth plates (just kidding)
8. The clear acrylic tube cover, secured by the two thumbscrews on the top of the unit

Order of demos will be posted as soon as I receive all addresses. Address/tel. info should be sent to me in a private message here on the Polk forum. Thank you!


For reviews:

http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/169811/backertlabs-rhumba-preamp#latest
The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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Comments

  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,842
    Great "Rules of Peregrination!"

    Thanks for being so clear.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 16,808
    Andy,

    I did send you my info please let me know that you received it..
  • Toolfan - Got it!
    Next destination for the roaming Rhumba 1.1.... back to headquarters! We've added additional resonance damping to the Rhumba's chassis, so we want the demo unit to be up-to-spec. Then the unit will be delivered to MrBuhl who is in the mid-Atlantic region with us.
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,901
    Thanks for the update on the status Andy. Looking forward to taking a small advantage of Backerts generosity.

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    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,287
    Toolfan - Got it!
    Next destination for the roaming Rhumba 1.1.... back to headquarters! We've added additional resonance damping to the Rhumba's chassis, so we want the demo unit to be up-to-spec. .

    This tells me you are actually listening to what people are saying and improving on what people are saying is a weakness. This is refreshing!

    Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista 300, Audioquest Thunderbird Zero Speaker Cable, Tyler Highland H2, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
  • BackertLabs
    BackertLabs Posts: 117
    edited November 2015
    Mr. Buhl now has the Rhumba 1.1 after a several-day shipping mixup and delay back from Texas, followed by chassis deadening process and a few IPAs / pinot noirs listening to everything from Patricia Barber to ZZ Top.

    Proposed next listener: MuncyBob. Would arrive Thurs-Fri next week. Will private message him now.
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,901
    Thanks for the update Andy, was beginning to wonder what was up.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,028
    So, I can't find the list and order of participants. This is why I suggested it all be in a single thread :smile: . Either point me to it or post it in this thread, please.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Yes sir! A *tentative* order is set forth below.

    List of participants:

    Past
    DSkip
    marvda1

    Present
    MrBuhl

    Future (tentative)
    muncybob
    Moose68Bash
    tonyb
    erniejade
    heiney9
    agfrost
    Toolfan66
    Breal74
    nooshinjohn
    indyhawg
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,028
    Thanks, appreciate it.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,636
    You're way down the list Brock. See ya next year lol...
  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    If someone could bring the jaws of life and get those panties out of Heiney9's heiney it would be much appreciated. The whining is getting old. This isn't that friggin hard.
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,028
    You're way down the list Brock. See ya next year lol...

    That's alright, atleast this gives a tentative schedule. Want to make sure I can give it my full attention around the time I am supposed to demo it.

    H9

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,842
    edited November 2015
    @BackertLabs,

    Thank you for posting the list.

    It is very helpful.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,851
    where are we at with the preamp?
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Puritan PSM156
  • Muncybob should receive by Wed. this week!
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,954
    I'm like a kid at Christmas. Even went to bed early last night.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B, Rythmik L12 sub.
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,954
    There will be a bit of a delay in sending the unit on to the next in line. I found that the power switch was damaged when I finally got a chance to set up the preamp. Andy at Backert has sent me a FedEx label to return for repair.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B, Rythmik L12 sub.
  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,954
    An update...the amp is repaired and delivery back to me today is expected. It would appear the unit was damaged in shipment.
    A bonus is Andy has also included some extra tubes to roll.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B, Rythmik L12 sub.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,901
    That Andy....always buckin' for a spot on the Christmas card list. Great news, and thank you Andy.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,842
    Muncybob should receive by Wed. this week!

    @BackertLabs,

    Given the delay in the schedule that results from the return to the factory for repair, it looks like the preamp is likely to come to me during a period when I'll be traveling for the holidays.

    I suggest postponing my turn in the rotation till after @tonyb and @erniejade in the list above.
    Family Room, Innuos Statement streamer (Roon Core) with Morrow Audio USB cable to McIntosh MC 2700 pre with DC2 Digital Audio Module; AQ Sky XLRs to CAT 600.2 dualmono amp, Morrow Elite Speaker Cables to NOLA Baby Grand Reference Gold 3 speakers. Power source for all components: Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One with dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel.

    Exercise Room, Innuos Streamer via Cat 6 cable connection to PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC w/Bridge II, AQ King Cobra RCAs to Perreaux PMF3150 amp (fully restored and upgraded by Jeffrey Jackson, Precision Audio Labs), Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables to SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers and other mods.), Dreadnaught with Supra Rondo 4x2.5 interconnect cables by Vr3 Mods. Power for each component from dedicated 20 amp circuit to main panel, except Innuos Statement powered from Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One.

  • Illinois contingent: you're up next!
    OK in response to Moose68Bash's request, here is a new tentative order of Rhumba 1.1 preamp recipients.... participants please take a look.... you don't have to be totally committed in concrete, but please give us a shout if you see a problem:

    Demo participants:

    Past
    DSkip
    marvda1
    MrBuhl

    Present (Ends Wed. Dec. 16)
    muncybob

    Future (tentative order)
    tonyb
    erniejade
    heiney9
    agfrost
    Toolfan66
    Breal74
    nooshinjohn
    indyhawg
    Moose68Bash
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,287
    I am not sure around what area H9 lives but I know Tony and I can hand off to each other. I work in Schaumburg. H9 does that area work out for you for a hand off?
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  • muncybob
    muncybob Posts: 2,954
    Brian, the amp should be shipped out today to you via FedEx.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
    Parasound HCA1500A(indoor sound) and HCA1000(outdoor sound), Dynaco PAS4, Denon DP1200 w/Shure V15 Type V and Jico SAS stylus, Marantz UD7007, modded Polk SDA 2B, Rythmik L12 sub.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,901
    H9 is in the Rockford area. I asked Andy to move me to after Christmas. Too much going on with all the holiday festivities and I wouldn't be able to spend any time with the pre.

    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,287
    Thanks!!! Tony it will be sometime the week after Christmas. I already talked to Andy and he was cool with it.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,028
    After the Holiday's is better for me as well. I live in Rockford. Maybe we can meet half way between the 'burbs and Rockford. Maybe someone can "hold" it at their place until things settle down after the Holiday's. I fear (know) I wouldn't be able to give it as much attention as it deserves.

    H9

    P.S. Looks like I'll be getting the handoff from Tony. He has actually delivered something to my work before so we'll work it out. Preferably after New Years.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,901
    Yeah, Ernie can hand off to me, and I can hand off to Brock no problem, if that's the intended progression.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,287
    I believe that is the intended and the best way for safe delivery.
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  • ErnieJade should receive the Rhumba this Saturday. Normally his hand-off to TonyB would be Monday the 28th but we are giving him until Wed. the 30th due to the holiday, and we thank ErnieJade for stepping up to receive the unit during this busy time.

    The 4 Illinois gents can share the unit in any order - Still 7 days each, unless you get it on a weekend, in which case you let it go the following Monday.

    After Illinois: off to Toolfan66 in Colorado.

    Reminder: we are asking that those who ship the unit insure it for $2,000.

    We included 2 pair of old tubes if you don't have spare 12au7's lying around -- they sound very nice but each pair has 1 noisy tube, we're very sorry about that! But actually it doesn't interfere too much and lets you hear the difference that rolling can make. Both pairs are very nice, and are labeled differently from what they are:
    1. "Conn" -- these are RCA clear tops from the late 1950s or early 60s.
    2. "Amperex Bugle Boy" -- these are actually Mullards from early 1960s, made in England.

    Some have expressed preference for NOS but I continue to love the stock JJ's because of their punch, clarity and dynamic sound. To each his own!

    Our beloved roaming Rhumba 1.1 is getting some wear on it from shipping mishaps, but it just makes us love it all the more. Hope you all enjoy it. Happy Holidays!
    -Backert Labs
    The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com