Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 demo: Logistics
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It did not exhibit this in my rig either. Was there any damage to the packaging?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Hissing and popping in one channel or both?afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
Hissing and popping in one channel or both?
Both channels.nooshinjohn wrote: »It did not exhibit this in my rig either. Was there any damage to the packaging?
Everything looked good and there was no visible damage to the packaging.
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I switched from my ZenWave RCA's to a pair of Kimber Hero's and the problem still persists. Also, the amp and preamp are on separate 20 amp outlets.
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We will need to speak with you to see if we can figure out the issue, and if not, we will need to look at the unit. Not likely to be the tubes. We will handle this offline and report back.The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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Maybe after being shipped 47 times in a row it has decided to protest??The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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I just talked to Andy at Backert, on a Sunday at that, and he is getting ahold of Bob to help diagnose the problem.
I have to say that Backert Labs is one heck of a company that bends over backwards for there customers!
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They are indeed, work it out and let us know when things are back on track. Still want to hear more about the sound from you when everything is back up to snuff.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I knew I should have used protection....The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
any updates here?The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
The Rhumba is on its way back to Backert for a once over.
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I'm sure it doesn't matter, but just out of curiousity was the trip from CA to WA via UPS or FedEx?The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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Fed exThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
BackertLabs wrote: »I'm sure it doesn't matter, but just out of curiousity was the trip from CA to WA via UPS or FedEx?
Knowing John....it was by pack Mule.....Greyhound bus.....then handed off to a delivery service by the name of 2 kids and a big wheel.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I have had issues with all of them BUT I have had better luck in general with fedEx vs ups or uspsKlipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
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I packed it very well guysThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Everything I have bought/karma'd from John has been very well packaged.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
Village Idiot of Club Polk -
The Rhumba was packed very well so no fault to John, or Backert for that matter. That preamp has been shipped all over God's country and back and strange things can happen. I am glad that they are a stand up company that backs their products and I have future interest in having them modify my McCormack.
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I have had issues with all of them BUT I have had better luck in general with fedEx vs ups or usps
You had issues with pack Mules and 2 Kids and a big wheel ? Good to know you had better luck, in general, with FedEx. LMAO !!
Just bustin' John's chops a bit, I'm sure he packed it like it was his own private parts inside the box.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I have had issues with all of them BUT I have had better luck in general with fedEx vs ups or usps
You had issues with pack Mules and 2 Kids and a big wheel ? Good to know you had better luck, in general, with FedEx. LMAO !!
Just bustin' John's chops a bit, I'm sure he packed it like it was his own private parts inside the box.
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
Hope you have some blue tac under the jar, you guys are primed and pumped for another big one out there.
Blue tac for blue balls in a jar....yeah, makes sense.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Just received the Rhumba. Thanks Brian. We will get this back to you shortly.
-AndyThe preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com -
Andy's on the ball as usual. How about having the big dogs sign the back for the man, we audiophiles get off on these things.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
I am curious to find out what went wrongThe Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson -
I figured this would be a 1-day turnaround, maybe a part gone bad. But so far we have done a large number of tests on the Rhumba, on the bench and in various stereo systems, and have not found any problem. It sounds great - it must be psychology working here but I feel like this is my personal favorite Rhumba. Yet it clearly had an issue at Brian's place. Today we will subject it to another test that we came up with last night. We will keep you posted.The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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BackertLabs wrote: »It sounds great - it must be psychology working here but I feel like this is my personal favorite Rhumba.
I'm rather fond of it myself. Thanks for all of the work and time you have spent on the unit and I can't wait to get it back!
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Hows about an update on this....is it back in the rig yet ?
Just wondering too if Andy has a beater Rhumba laying around, if there is such a thing, that might find it's way back around Chicago. Never hurts to ask, right ?HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
We will be sending back Brian's Rhumba in a couple days. As for the question: if you're paying shipping, you are welcome to another demo. Was that the question?The preamp specialists. http://BackertLabs.com
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Hey Polkies,
First and foremost I have to give the highest of praises to all at Backert Labs for being an outstanding company. We have been in constant contact and they are a real pleasure to deal with.
After putting my Rhumba on the bench and running several different tests trying to recreate my situation they concluded that there was actually nothing wrong with the unit. I am sure they would be willing to go into a little more detail on the tests that they performed. We talked several differnt times about how I had it set up, cabling used and possible interferences and they were not able to recreate the noise that was happening in my system. Hopefully it was some passing bad audio juju I had. I think I will burn some sage just to make sure.
In the end, Bob and Andy offered to put all new guts into my old chassis and send it back and see if that fixes the issue. They also offered to burn in the unit, but I declined for two reasons. First, I felt that it would be a better way to get to know the Rhumba as a whole and second, I thought that it would be fun to give updates on the sound throughout the burn in process as there never was a chance to do that with one set of ears with the demo.
Thanks again Bob and Andy! I greatly appreciate your hard work and dedication.
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They just had to clean up the interior of the unit after my late-nite tryst. Sorry about that. Next time I will wear protection.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson