Backert Labs Rhumba 1.1 demo: Logistics

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    Still waiting for Toolfan66 review?

    Tony you are slacking, you were/are up my **** about it, fair is fair....... :p

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Chill Brock, I got Cathy waiting in the wings to beat it out of Larry and Indy. She hasn't beaten anyone up in awhile so she's chompin' at the bit.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    That's should scare them into a review.....lol :D
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,410
    I will be back in L.A. tomorrow, so if I could please get back in place on the list, I would be grateful.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    indyhawg wrote: »
    The preamp has left the building and is on its way to Moose68Bash. I will get a review up later this evening.

    @indyhawg,

    Great news!

    Can you give me tracking information? I want to be "standing ready" to receive it.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    @indyhawg,

    Never mind the above post.

    I got the PM.
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  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,642
    trav0810 wrote: »
    I should have gotten on the list for this baby. I could have picked it up from Hawg and shipped it on.

    You should have gotten in on this Travis. I wish you could have least made it over here to at least check it out.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Moose,

    Did you receive this yet ?
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    @tonyb & @BackertLabs,

    Got it yesterday, and hooked it up this morning.

    I have it playing to give it a good warm up period before I start listening seriously.

    First impression: The sound is extremely clear and precise at relatively low volume levels v. what I'm used to. Transients are also clear and precise.

    I was struck immediately by the difference this preamp makes in my "exercise area" system. I decided to put it in this rig first because I have to spend at least a couple of hours there today, and it was very easy for me to install it in this rig as compared to my main rig.

    I can say right off the bat that this is an excellent preamp. The highs and mids are very clean with exceptionally good timbre, and the bass seems very powerful and well controlled.

    I started listening with "Don't Ever Let Nobody Drag Your Spirit Down" from the Opus 3 30th Anniversary Celebration Album, and the sound quality of the double bass, for example, is extraordinary. With a double bass I love to hear the vibration of the strings and the particular timbre of the wood. The Rhumba 1.1 really brings these details out -- even at low volume.

    I'm already very favorably impressed.

    I should say that this is the first piece of tube equipment I've had in one of my systems for years. i wonder whether a lot of the difference I' hearing is the difference between tube and SS?

    I did hear a touch of tube hiss, which my wife asked about immediately, but it is not at all problem when the music is playing.

    My wife also "accused" me of having the volume turned way up, and when I showed her that, in fact it was very low on the volume control, she was surprised.
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited March 2016
    Does anybody know the reason that this thread no longer shows up in the "Recent Discussions" category?

    Edit: As soon as I posted this post, it appeared in "Recent Discussions," again.

    It had only appeared in the "2 Channel" category.

    Are there criteria for when a thread gets dropped from "Recent Discussions?"
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  • BackertLabs
    BackertLabs Posts: 117
    Guys - several mini-reviews have appeared here in the "Logistics" thread. If it's OK with everybody we are going to copy/paste them into the Backert Labs Rhumba Preamp thread, so that people looking for reviews don't miss them. Thanks.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Moose68Bash wrote: »


    I should say that this is the first piece of tube equipment I've had in one of my systems for years. i wonder whether a lot of the difference I' hearing is the difference between tube and SS?.

    UH...does a bear crap in the woods ? Yeeeah !!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    Is this moving on soon ? Who's next....John ?
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  • BackertLabs
    BackertLabs Posts: 117
    Moose68Bash took delivery last Wed. so later this week he will send the unit to Backert Labs here in Delaware. We will run a final check, then it will be off to nooshinjohn in sunny California. Then to its final destination, breal74 in Washington.

    We would like to thank breal74, not only for purchasing this unit, but also for agreeing to let nooshinjohn be the party who delivers it to him. Very helpful for shipping efficiency and cost. If the unit had to re-visit the East Coast before delivery, it would have meant 3 cross-country shipments.

    -Andy
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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    BackertLabs wrote: »
    Guys - several mini-reviews have appeared here in the "Logistics" thread. If it's OK with everybody we are going to copy/paste them into the Backert Labs Rhumba Preamp thread, so that people looking for reviews don't miss them. Thanks.

    Andy,

    It's fine with me that you "copy/paste" my comments above into the more appropriate thread. When I started writing the post, I didn't really intend to say as much as I did.

    Please let me know the address to which you want me to send the Rhumba. I'll ship it off to you on Thursday, if that is all right.

    In spite of my interest to the contrary, I SHALL ship it back to you! :) It's been a great experience, and I am grateful to have had the opportunity to audition the Rhumba 1.1.

    Phil
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    BackertLabs wrote: »
    Moose68Bash took delivery last Wed. so later this week he will send the unit to Backert Labs here in Delaware. We will run a final check, then it will be off to nooshinjohn in sunny California. Then to its final destination, breal74 in Washington.

    We would like to thank breal74, not only for purchasing this unit, but also for agreeing to let nooshinjohn be the party who delivers it to him. Very helpful for shipping efficiency and cost. If the unit had to re-visit the East Coast before delivery, it would have meant 3 cross-country shipments.

    -Andy

    Thanks Andy, makes perfect sense too. As always, your communication is top notch.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,410
    BackertLabs wrote: »

    We would like to thank breal74, not only for purchasing this unit, but also for agreeing to let nooshinjohn be the party who delivers it to him. Very helpful for shipping efficiency and cost. If the unit had to re-visit the East Coast before delivery, it would have meant 3 cross-country shipments.

    -Andy

    Thanks guys. I promise not to break it. >:)

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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    Just disinfect it before you send it up the coast!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,410
    breal74 wrote: »
    Just disinfect it before you send it up the coast!

    Cooties make it sound more lively and transparent.
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    nbrowser wrote: »
    Once I finally get my documentation to cross that 49th parallel...I'd love to visit and hear this thing...sounds like it's getting rave reviews.

    You are more than welcome at my house any time nbrowser! Dinner is on me too.

    I have been wanting make it up your way to travel around the Vancouver area and B.C. in general. We live in a beautiful part of the world!
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Cooties make it sound more lively and transparent.

    As long as they are audiophile grade cooties I will let it slide. But I am sure that you use nothing but the best! Maybe I could ask Jena Labs if they could give them a cryo bath for me?
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  • BackertLabs
    BackertLabs Posts: 117
    We are a bit backed up these days, so the Rhumba 1.1 will ship out to California early next week. nooshinjohn -- does that work for you?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,410
    PERFECT SIR...
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    .....and pray it doesn't come thru Chicago by freight. Things have a habit of falling off the truck around here. ;)
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  • tonyb
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    Does Breal finally have his new toy yet ? I want to hear more from you dude.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,410
    tonyb wrote: »
    Does Breal finally have his new toy yet ? I want to hear more from you dude.
    It's currently undergoing the Samsonite Gorilla test. Then and only then, a Rhumba will it be.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,897
    edited April 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730
    The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

    It is imperative that we recognize that an opinion is not a fact.
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    It is on a truck for delivery today. I am busy with work until Saturday afternoon, but then it's on!

    John was nice enough to give me a call and let me know that he cleaned all of his DNA off of the preamp before he put it in the box. I suspect that it was more for his protection than to be nice though.

    I will keep you posted Tony.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,962
    That John...always looking to cover his rear end.

    Cool man, just looking for further thoughts from you. I'll wait.....which means a few Cannoli's will have to meet their doom in the meantime. ;)
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  • breal74
    breal74 Posts: 324
    edited May 2016
    Good news is that it is in the system, but.... now it has a low level hiss and a light pop about three times a second at constant intervals when there was none the first time I had it during the preamp tour.

    I checked all of my connections and also now have the preamp hooked up to the amp without anything else plugged into the Rhumba. The level of hiss and pops stay constant at all volumes and get drowned out with higher volumes. Also, the bass slam is not as dramatic on the same tracks, even after ample warm up time.

    Any thoughts on what could have changed since the last time I had it?
    Could it be the tubes?

    Thanks for the help gents,

    Brian
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