Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited January 2010
    I believe Montoya also had the same conclusion.....Freddy?
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    Well I am going to disagree with myself. After I got my MIT cables I am now a 100% believer in that cables make a difference.

    +1, just got a chance to audition a set of AQ Type 4's, wow they were nice.

    This thread is still around, lol.

    -Jeff
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Oh hrmmm.... "new posts!!!!" <click>


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    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • basujansa1010
    basujansa1010 Posts: 4
    edited January 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Oh hrmmm.... "new posts!!!!" <click>


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    nice joke man. but i am hurted for gettin that kind of cheat. by the way wish u best of luck for all. it is joke <click>:D
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    basujansa1010 wrote: »
    nice joke man. but i am hurted for gettin that kind of cheat. by the way wish u best of luck for all. it is joke <click>:D

    Thanks man, i really appreciate it!


    PS:

    Get bent.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited January 2010
    The good old days.... :):rolleyes:;)

    Good things never die!
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    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Ben he's not interested in opening his mind, just being a troll. He's been offered to participate int the free MIT cable demo and is not interested.

    H9

    Why don't I ever get offered something like this? I want to be convinced cables make a difference too!

    In all seriousness, I have not heard a real difference in any wire I've used, but then again I haven't been able to use that great of wire at all due to money constraints (being 20 and in college, money doesn't come in droves lol). I'm interested to hear for myself if cables really can make a significant difference, as reading peoples bickering back in forth is rather pointless and not all that educational since there are so many different conflicting opinions. Part of me wonders if the difference between the doubters and the believers is those who have cheaper gear where maybe good wire is inconsequential vs those with higher end gear? Or is it purely psychological? I don't believe in "measuring" sound, so the only real way is to hear. Out of curiosity, I was going to buy a pair of AQ X2 cables (all I can really afford to buy right now) to compare to my cheap monster cable but someone on this forum told me it sounds just like regular home depot cable and not to bother and to hear a real difference I would need something better.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited January 2010
    Oh heck, what's the use. Forget it. edited.
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    I guess my reason for posting that is, i am very curious about the real difference between wires but am financially unable to buy cable right now, so if there are any more demos or anything like that, if someone could maybe let me know? I'll also be checking the for sale ads frequently here to see if there are any cheap good cables I can grab. I really want to see for myself before I form an opinion either way.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    Here's the demo thread Zitro;

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79365
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited January 2010
    Unfortunately, I've personally found that experimentation (with different wires between your own specific components in your own specific environment) is really the only way to figure this out.

    And again, unfortunately, that generally takes both time and money.

    It's hard to get a Rolls Royce experience with a Yugo budget, but there are some decent Acura/Lexus cables out there that you may find a deal on if you are persistent.

    Otherwise, work hard, get the degree, land a decent job, work hard, pay off the student loans . . . in a decade or so you will be buying cables.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
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    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    Unfortunately, I've personally found that experimentation (with different wires between your own specific components in your own specific environment) is really the only way to figure this out.

    And again, unfortunately, that generally takes both time and money.

    It's hard to get a Rolls Royce experience with a Yugo budget, but there are some decent Acura/Lexus cables out there that you may find a deal on if you are persistent.

    Otherwise, work hard, get the degree, land a decent job, work hard, pay off the student loans . . . in a decade or so you will be buying cables.

    Jeez you just talked the kid out of it!:D:p
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Jeez you just talked the kid out of it!:D:p

    Lol no he didn't; I know he's right. Some things do take time, and this is one of them. Having a hobby like this is something you need to work for (as most things are), and right now just isn't practical, with all the expenses with college and what have you. I guess I'm anxious to just dive in to this world of audio, being so exciting and vast. It drives my girlfriend crazy; I can just sit in front of my Polks for hours listening lol. And to think I like this system so much, and it is barely a scratch on the surface. There are so many options, so much to learn! But on the flip side, I do know it takes work and time. That's one of the reasons I like Club Polk; its nice to see all of the people who have worked hard to get to where they are now, and have great systems, maybe even the systems of their dreams. It keeps everything in perspective. I have much respect for those who work hard to get what they want, and from the looks of it, there are quite a few people on these forums who have done just that. It's just hard to be patient when you are so excited about something lol.

    Anyways, cheers to all the Polkies out there who truly love audio and worked hard to earn their equipment and are truly dedicated to the hobby! You are good inspiration for us younger folk ;)
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    ^^^^^ You gotta love this kid!

    That was the best post in this whole thread.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    Post #2235 reported btw, lol.

    -Jeff
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    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited January 2010
    wutadumsn23 wrote: »
    Post #2235 reported btw, lol.

    -Jeff

    LOL!!! How apropos for this thread!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,668
    edited January 2010
    Zitro wrote: »
    It's just hard to be patient when you are so excited about something

    Don't sweat it, you've got a nice system for a 20 year old in college.

    Anyway, forum member DisneyJoe lives in Orlando. Look him up if you want to hear better cables. He might even cast you in one of his **** flicks.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,065
    edited January 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Don't sweat it, you've got a nice system for a 20 year old in college.

    Anyway, forum member DisneyJoe lives in Orlando. Look him up if you want to hear better cables. He might even cast you in one of his **** flicks.


    Hey, he promissed me an audition 6 months ago.... guess I didn't measure up, so to speak.:D
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    LOL!!! How apropos for this thread!

    I know, right? I almost felt bad doing it.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited January 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Don't sweat it, you've got a nice system for a 20 year old in college.

    Anyway, forum member DisneyJoe lives in Orlando. Look him up if you want to hear better cables. He might even cast you in one of his **** flicks.

    Then he could afford some really nice cables. :D
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
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    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
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    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    Then he could afford some really nice cables. :D

    He probably would have to pay them to be in the movie. I would. ;)
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2010
    DJ's standards aint that tough, I mean really, in the next one, lady GAGA and a chicken hawk take a trip on a camel......you can imagine the rest...

    I got an audio system, it has wires.

    RT1
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited January 2010
    BAAAAAAAA Ted.

    -Jeff
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    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2010
    I thought Factorfiction was a new form of AUDIO mathematics...where you divide the thickness, quality and cost of cables by the wax that has not yet been removed from your ears and you get a number on an audiobility algorithmic index that is the inverse proportion of the wires' length and the lack of grey matter between your ears. This number is then 'verified' by what I call Double blocked studies...(meaning that you can't hear anything from either ear because they're both blocked).

    No..?


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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Don't sweat it, you've got a nice system for a 20 year old in college.

    Anyway, forum member DisneyJoe lives in Orlando. Look him up if you want to hear better cables. He might even cast you in one of his **** flicks.

    Thanks, but um....can I just do the cable listening part? If I have to do the ****, I get to pick the girl.
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    ^^^^^ You gotta love this kid!

    That was the best post in this whole thread.
    :cool: I'm just glad there are the enthusiasts out there who introduced me to this side of things and saved me from my shelf system days, thinking BOSE was the best lol.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
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  • mhmacw
    mhmacw Posts: 832
    edited January 2010
    fact
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    What's for sale?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,668
    edited January 2010
    Zitro wrote: »
    Thanks, but um....can I just do the cable listening part? If I have to do the ****, I get to pick the girl.

    Who said anything about girls?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,945
    edited January 2010
    Hehe...
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited January 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    Who said anything about girls?

    oh boy...maybe I'll just wait till I can afford some cable lol.
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
    Speakers: Polk Monitor 7A's, KEF Reference 104aB
    Sources: ProJect Debut Carbon, Sonos streaming FLAC
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