Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    Anybody know where I can find some Burnt Umber flat paint? :)
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited February 2010
    WHY MAN WHY!!!!!


    This thread was dead until you posted.

    As far as the paint goes, how close is it to the color in Crayola box? Last I checked Home Depot can match it if you take the crayon to them. Just make certain you don't eat the crayon on the way there as it will spoil your dinner.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    why man why!!!!!


    This thread was dead until you posted.

    As far as the paint goes, how close is it to the color in crayola box? Last i checked home depot can match it if you take the crayon to them. Just make certain you don't eat the crayon on the way there as it will spoil your dinner.

    lmao!:d
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

    Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music. ~Ronald Reagan
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited February 2010
    Cables are nonsese...In fact, I don't use ant at all! I just have my stuff stacked neatly and plugged in. Then just imagine what I want to hear when I play a song. That way I alleviate my fear of maybe hearing a difference(or not). 'Cause if I don't hear one, I'll get picked on by the bullies and my bushes will die and fire will shoot out of my ears and I'll pee on and stain my Astro turf indoor rugs and have to get vinyl slip covers for my couch which my nekkid butt cheeks stick to in the summertime because I spent all my money on air conditioning and Saltine crackers and sardines. No cables here, friends! Nosirree!!! The elves play happy music through my cable-less upside down CDP! Which only me and my neighbors gold fish can hear at precisely 2:34 AM.
    Where's my boat oar!!??? The Klingons are hear demanding pocket lint!
    They covet my pocket lint! **** and cockroaches live in my sock drawer singing with the elves in three part harmony tube amp pickle juice..
    What? Yikes!! Snakes.. Snakes every where!!!
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Cables are nonsense...In fact, I don't use ant at all! I just have my stuff stacked neatly and plugged in . . .

    I tried that once, but had to unplug everything when I realized that power cables are, well . . . . . cables.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
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    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited February 2010
    I use a modified form of the Vulcan mind meld when I listen to music. By allowing my mind to become one with the disc or LP, I can bypass all forms of interference and coloration from the cables and the gear and just listen.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited February 2010
    I love this thread.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
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    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
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  • Flash21
    Flash21 Posts: 316
    edited February 2010
    They should make audio equipment with "docking station" connectivity, box to box...voila, no cables needed!
    Steve Carlson
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    Bel Canto eVo2i integrated amp
    Bel Canto PL-2 universal disc player
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  • Flash21
    Flash21 Posts: 316
    edited February 2010
    That's it!!!
    Steve Carlson
    Von Schweikert VR-33 speakers
    Bel Canto eVo2i integrated amp
    Bel Canto PL-2 universal disc player
    Analysis Plus Oval Nine speaker cables and Copper Oval-In Micro interconnects
    VH Audio Flavor 4 power cables
    Polk Monitor 10B speakers, retired but not forgotten
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2010
    Though I only have entry level gear and entry level wires (acoustic research 10 gauge with bananas) I feel that they still give me a more solid connection to both the avr and speakers. I honestly don't know if they make a difference other than the mental thoughts that it does. Someday when I'm not fresh out of school and working for jack crap I will get better stuff and better cables... until then, I have no idea.
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  • mhmacw
    mhmacw Posts: 832
    edited February 2010
    Knucklehead wrote: »
    Anybody know where I can find some Burnt Umber flat paint? :)

    ehhhh....paint store?
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited February 2010
    The chickens are all pointing and laughing at me!!!!!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    The chickens are all pointing and laughing at me!!!!!

    I may have to question my 'own' sanity for this...but I'm with Russ on this one! So where are the chickens? They don't seem to feed them in China...such scrawny little creatures.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited February 2010
    What the heck is a Spearker Cable? Is it like a bang stick for sharks but for audiophiles that bother you at special events?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2010
    Seriously? Are you refering to BOBT???

    I thought this was 'THE' just another cable thread archetype.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2010
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    Though I only have entry level gear and entry level wires (acoustic research 10 gauge with bananas) I feel that they still give me a more solid connection to both the avr and speakers. I honestly don't know if they make a difference other than the mental thoughts that it does. Someday when I'm not fresh out of school and working for jack crap I will get better stuff and better cables... until then, I have no idea.

    Not to call your baby ugly, but AR cables suck real bad. You would be better off going the the auto section of Wal Cheese and getting the 14ga speaker wire there. I know I have had them.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited February 2010
    lightman1 wrote: »
    cockroaches live in my sock drawer singing with the elves in three part harmony tube amp pickle juice...

    hehe:eek:
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2010
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Not to call your baby ugly, but AR cables suck real bad. You would be better off going the the auto section of Wal Cheese and getting the 14ga speaker wire there. I know I have had them.

    I respect your opinion because I assume you have a lot nicer stuff than I. However, I disagree that the walmart auto cables would be better. I mean... being an **** and assuming that the mumbo jumbo of "oxygen free" and "twisted copper" mean anything, I don't know how these cables could be worse. With a more firm connection and being sealed away from the elements I can't imagine they are doing more harm than good compared to my self terminated 12 awg wire from lowes. For 3 25 foot cables that I paid under 50 bucks for on ebay I don't think I've done too badly for myself.

    Oh, and I'm sure when I have a baby... it will be ugly... Seinfeld baby ugly ;)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    Grimmace, did you get the AR Master Series cables or whatever with the flex tips? I'm using a 10g set of those, and i'm pretty happy with them for the time being, and i know a few others on here are too.

    I'm sure i'll upgrade at some point in the next or so, but i'm definitely not disappointed by them.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2010
    Yeah, they are the master series... and a correction to the previous post.. they are 15 feet.
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  • Hillbilly61
    Hillbilly61 Posts: 702
    edited February 2010
    This thread is great! It's like a infectious disease that is endemic to a community (Club Polk). It flares up from time to time and then dies down, but never completely dies out! Then out of the blue, a random event brings it back out into the open ... like a query where Burnt Umber flat paint can be found!
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited February 2010
    So, how may blind tests have been conducted?
    Michael ;)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2010
    janmike wrote: »
    So, how may blind tests have been conducted?

    What do you mean? Every time any of us 'closes' his/her eyes and listens to their system it IS a blind test.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • gsxr141
    gsxr141 Posts: 143
    edited February 2010
    i'm currently in the middle of a debate on whether "better" cables are worth the money. i feel at some point there's a difference, but i can't condone spending my whole wad on the cables. hell, i just saw a used set on audiogon at the asking price of $7,500. i thought it was a misprint so i looked up the brand and to my surprise they are $24,500 new. come on now.
    50" samsung dlp
    receiver... pioneer elite vsx72txv
    front... polk tsi400's
    rear surrounds... polk tsi100's
    center... polk csi3
    subs... psw150..... 2 of them.
    surrounds.....polk owm3's
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  • 98Badger
    98Badger Posts: 317
    edited February 2010
    If you don't have them already, room treatments will give you a bigger increase in sound quality per dollar than cables.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited February 2010
    It's been a while since I posted in this very serious thread.
    I was a skeptic then, now I'm a believer.
    Ok, maybe still a bit skeptical, but my ears are telling me there's a difference. Screw what my brain thinks...

    Btw, 3/20 is BOBT Day - a day to honor the man for kicking off this wonderful thread!
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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,622
    edited February 2010
    My testing has revealed that some cables sound the same and some sound different. Some sound better and some sound worse. Some sound bright and some sound dull. Some look pretty and some look manly. Some fit well and some dont' fit at all. And finally, some cables are longer than others.
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited February 2010
    "Some look pretty and some look manly. Some fit well and some dont' fit at all. And finally, some cables are longer than others."

    Cables huh? ;)
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited February 2010
    Hillbilly61 wrote: »
    This thread is great! It's like a infectious disease that is endemic to a community (Club Polk). It flares up from time to time and then dies down, but never completely dies out!

    Maybe one of the pharmaceuticals should devote some time to developing a "Valtrex" for speaker cable threads :)
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2010
    I think I've stopped caring about cables altogether.

    I've got some decent IC's...some decent speaker cables. I think I'm good on cable upgrades for the next 5-10 years or so.

    Maybe once I've got the rig of my dreams, with a fully acoustically treated listening area, I'll worry about squeezing that last little .000001% of performance out with better cables.


    I'd rather spend the money on a really big bag of..."stuff". That's going to make more of an improvement than any cables ever will.;)
    The nirvana inducer-
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    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
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