Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

Good point.
Another topic of debate and academic study

Although.... Insects including the Bumblebee appear to have the ability of flight or appear to fly in a vortex in relation to the main current of air flow by its wings oscillating over 125 times/second. Observations made possible by the use of high speed photography. (Great TESTING capabilities)

I believe No One has ever proved that a Bumblebee can NOT fly.

It appears that the MYTH that a Bumblebee can not fly is what is generally thought incorrectly.

Rather that a particular mathematical model was not thorough and stringent enough to explain "The Flight of the Bumblebee".

I like that Nature presents us these thought provoking challenges.

It is so much fun

JVC can you play my heart bleeds for me on the Violin?

I have dibs on post 1000 in this stupid thread:rolleyes:

that was funny:)
I hope also to get 1000 posts out of this thread

joseph.v.chen wrote: »

that was funny:)
I hope also to get 1000 posts out of this thread

I don't want a thousand posts in a thread. I want the 1000th post, and I was kidding. The more you post in a thread going nowhere the dumber you look.

Part of the problem is that non-believers go from the standpoint that a given wire can pass the full audio spectrum, therefore is suitable; and thus feel their argument is made. Not true, we're talking subtlties in tone, not wether or not a cable has the ability to handle the signal. This fact is already known. How anyone, with even the least amount of electrical learning cannot accept that capacitance, impedance, and resistance can have an audible effect (frequency roll-off, loose bass, etc) is beyond me if you understand cable topologies, materials, connectors, and impedance matching. If you really want to hear cable differences, put a low impeadance RCA analog interconnect between your CDP and DAC. The 75ohm specification for SPDIF is intended to be followed fairly closely; where RCA analog inputs/cabling vary all over the map. Maybe this explains why different cables can sometimes have a different tonal character.

I don't pretend to know it all--far from it, but I do know that I hear differences in cables. Why? Hell I don't know for sure, but I suspect the above may explain some of it---but more importantly I don't care, it works well in my system, so I use it. I also don't know how a 6yr old autistic child can play a piano like Motzart, that doesn't make the reality any less true.

Well, the other more simpler point: Why would I pay $200 for a set of RCA IC's when I could get by with a $6.99 set from Radio Shack---or better yet the free 69 cent IC that came with the equipment if all cables sound exactly the same? Why would anyone?

You guys obviously have no idea how cheap I am...LOL, seriously. There's NO shame in my game, if the 69 cent jobs worked as well as better stuff, I'd be using them.

Having said all that, there are LOTS of cables that are rediculously expensive, and loaded with snake oil.

That's where the listening for yourself part comes in...;)

Add to that, that the most expensive cable isn't always better. I'd be willing to spend $300 on a digital coax, but I like my $14.99 Belden the best (so far) of the coax's I've heard.

Mr. Chen just sent me a PM that says "You got me!".

All Polkies, Unite!

Will you all give this thread a rest and let it die in peace?

For all I care, I am an electronics engineer and experimented all kinds of cables and wires and looked through Oscilloscope and all kinds of cable testers when I was in the school. Those who think cables are the same need to be going back to school again as well as those who think $10000 cables are any better than a well designed and researched $100 needs to be attending the school again.

This cable industry is so twisted with the truth and the hypes so no one can even think about single handedly picking out what cable is perfoming less than the other. There'll always be debates and disagreements. So, let it rest and use whatever you want that works for you.

P.S. I know there are many other folks who knows exactly what this is about and keeping quiet because it's not worth posting a **** in this thread. So, in respect to those who knows, I consider this is the only post I should made in this thread. If you disagree, please feel free to do so and post anything you like but I am not going to reply any further.

Mutual respect is a 2-way street. I may not agree with your opinion, but I respect the fact that you are entitled to one.

That is the way I feel too and I am open to a good debate where I could learn... As I pointed out, I don't mind if someone can prove too me that I am wrong as I definitely can learn from it! I did enjoy what DK had to provide as info and took the time to read his review as it keeps openess to the other side of the fence thus providing healthy debate as one is open and listening to one's position and reasonning.

Techno
What are running for IC's right now? What is your setup?

Ya know...everytime you make a post in here saying "let's put this to rest", all you're doing is just bumping this thread back up to the top.

If you want to "put it to rest", just stop posting in it. Period. That's all you need to do.;)

steveinaz wrote: »

Techno
What are running for IC's right now? What is your setup?

Very basic set-ups so far... I've started toying with the Polk RM20 and PSW110... I used a (nearly full new) roll of 10 gage that came from my repair shop when I closed it... I then bought a Polk 42" surroundbar to toy/test with as the technology got me very curious (use the original cable assembly provided by Polk)... I now own 6 RM30s which will actually used in my HT room, mostly movies since I feel the speakers are not the best for music and since I still use my old 3 way set-up upstairs for music.

Interconnects, I never like to use the cheap stuff that comes with gear but I use low priced coax RCA (mind you, I am not too sure of their thrue value since I bought them from my business supplier that was closing business at the time... maybe real price about $60cdn in 2000???) If you think you are cheap, I have to be the cheapest of all

I use a Yamaha entry level HTR-6080 to drive my toys (I really wanted the pre-outs but didn't really want to pay HIGH END pricing though)... Matter of fact, ALL gear was acquired during sales (even the Polks audio toys).

I was even thinking of using my RG59 (mostly full roll) to do my own RCAs interconnect since it isn't usable for video anymore since I use HDMI to DVI (monoprice). I also have a cheap set of wirelogic (85$cdn) audio and video interconnect that I bought originally for my projector... blue covering mesh cloth gold plated but nothing to go crazy about but honestly work fine. As you can see, even if we were to consider HIGH END cables, in my opinion it would be overkill for the humble set-up that I have. Since I now use my HD DVD players for music also in the basement, it is hooked-up through the receiver HDMI anyway.

One thing to consider, I like to take some gear on the road to get family members to enjoy (IE: summer deck by the pool outdoor movies) thus the reason for the smaller speakers (RM20s). With the spring weather coming, I stopped the work on the basement HT room enlargement to start the outdoor fun. As I ponited out, my technical bacground will not get off my skin and I move stuff around, buy some more to toy but I can not afford HIGH pricing. The idea, I normally buy what I can afford to pay back within a month latest (no mortgaging on any electronics).

Since I have many good old receivers at hand (heritage of my former business ) I intend to mix and match the good old receivers to my humble system to create a baby museum of my previous good old era... Keep in mind none of this is HIGH end but ratter mainly entry level (what I could at the time afford as a average income parent).

treitz3 puts the words ("dead horse") into live pictures :cool: