Roger Russell FOS or legit?

megasat16

I don't know how Roger Russell offends Polkies to deserve 4 pages of bashing in his honor but I don't think he is begging for you all to love him, like him or visit his websites.

I don't care what he thinks or write on his website but he probably don't deserve 4 pages long of everyone taking a crap on him either. I never thought he is either a Genius or a douchebag or a windbag but he lacks some taste for sure.

anhchungdoan

treitz3 wrote: »

Simple poll question......do you think or "know" that RR is a genius or a complete windbag?

What side of the fence are you on?

Perfect candidate for AVS forum, period.

snow

megasat16 wrote: »

I don't know how Roger Russell offends Polkies to deserve 4 pages of bashing in his honor but I don't think he is begging for you all to love him, like him or visit his websites.

I don't care what he thinks or write on his website but he probably don't deserve 4 pages long of everyone taking a crap on him either. I never thought he is either a Genius or a douchebag or a windbag but he lacks some taste for sure.

I should email him a link to this thread so he can get an understanding of the loathing that "most" people feel for him.



REGARDS SNOW
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nooshinjohn

Damn.... I leave this place alone for 12 hours and this thread goes ballistic. Too late for some popcorn.

Cables are just like any other component in any audio system and should be respected as such. I cannot fathom running my Sunfires on a 16g lampcord, nor could I imagine running a set of Mcintosh MC-1201's on the cables I have currently. Cable make a huge difference. I have heard the Mac's on a set of $30,000 cables and on lesser quality cables, and with each step down the chain, there were subtle but distinct differences. While I cannot see myself parting with large amounts of coin for cables any time soon(rather have a '65 Riviera GS) I understand and appreciate the value of a good set of wires. They can take a good system and make it great.

Lowell_M

Hawkeye wrote: »

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I've never heard a SDA-whatever but I still would like to BEFORE I voiced an opinion.

By the way, I didn't vote one way or the other. There is good and bad in everything.

Gordon

I was really just being a smart **** about EMO... I don't like the look of SDA's either, but if they met proper WAF levels they would be in my living room instead of LSi's.

halo71

Lowell_M wrote: »

... I don't like the look of SDA's either,

:eek: What blasphemy! If I had a pair I'd probably just sit and stair at them all the time.

Lowell_M

halo71 wrote: »

:eek: What blasphemy! If I had a pair I'd probably just sit and stair at them all the time.

Doesn't mean I don't like how they sound.

inspiredsports

It's amazing how someone so talented with components was so wrong about cabling.

agfrost

megasat16 wrote: »

I don't know how Roger Russell offends Polkies to deserve 4 pages of bashing in his honor but I don't think he is begging for you all to love him, like him or visit his websites.

I don't care what he thinks or write on his website but he probably don't deserve 4 pages long of everyone taking a crap on him either. I never thought he is either a Genius or a douchebag or a windbag but he lacks some taste for sure.

C'mon now, according to the top of this page, as of this moment, only 75.76% of people think RR is FOS. Let's call it 3.0304 pages of people taking a crap on him.

hearingimpared

DarqueKnight wrote: »

You mean he's tryin' to take advantage of people? I thought he was one of the good peoples who was on a crusade to save gullible folk from being separated from their grocery and rent money by cable snake oil peddlers.

I'm confused.



Mr. Russel? A hypocrite? A charlitan? Just because he put a little bit of Cardas wire in his $18,900 speakers?

NO WAY!! Me thinks thou art bitter at having your little high end cable racket exposed. Go on admit it. Humble confession is good for the soul.

I confess that I only have 6" of Cardas wire in my SME V tonearm and hear a big difference compared to the silver litz wire that was originally installed in the tonearm. I confess that I have eight Cardas binding posts installed in my 1.2TLs but was unable to compare the sound changes between the original binding posts and the Cardas for obvious reasons. I confess using a Cardas test record for dialing in my turntable. I also confess that Rodger Russel is a hypocrite and a charlitan who has been exposed as a fraud by using Cardas wire and binding posts after years of preaching that all high end wires and accessories are snake oil.

hearingimpared

xcapri79 wrote: »

The feet are designed to act as bumpers to protect the corners of the base.

He uses useless rubber "bumpers" when spikes are widely used for speaker feet because of their way of tightening up the bass and pinpointing the imaging. WHAT A GENIUS!

hearingimpared

Sami wrote: »

I think they are both being quite honest about what they are selling and why. If people hear a difference with cables, or think they can hear, that's all that matters. Why shouldn't he sell cables that theoretically have all the best characteristics to those who believe they can hear a difference? At least he has not changed his opinion.

By installing Cardas wire and using Cardas posts in his speakers and then uses the excuse (honest my ****) that Audiophiles desire to have high end wire is proof that he not only changed his opinion but that he is a windbag and a charlitan of the worse sort.

messiah

A wise man once said " A chain is only as strong as its weakest link". The same can be said about your stereo or ht setup. 19 thousand dollar speakers with 19 thousand dollar cables and a 100 dollar avr, probably not so good. 19 thousand dollar cables with 19 thousand dollar amps and 100 dollar speakers = poo. Instead, just get 7'6" tall speakers and that will solve everything. Hook your 19 thousand dollar speakers to your 35 dollar transistor radio with lamp cord and all is good! Why the hell would I want a super tall speaker with 24 little woofers in it?

hearingimpared

Hawkeye wrote: »

Why such disdain for this guy? Is is possible he realized after 50 years he was wrong and put higher grade wire in his speakers? I'll admit he may have sold out to sell but what business today won't?

The cable non believers are always told here to at least try. Maybe he did and realized the benefit of higher grade wire. There are more than a few reading here that went down the same road.

This guy was doing things with audio before a lot us were born. Some good, some not. Honestly, give the guy some credit, he's not a complete loser. Read some of his other papers besides wire. Has anybody here actually listened to his speakers? Why slam a guy for his design? This almost sounds like an EMO thread.

Gordon

The cable naysayers use RRs links everytime there is a cable debate. It is now being debunked. Besides there is another reason, the immature response to the immature deluded Rodger Russelettes & Emotivaettes.

hearingimpared

megasat16 wrote: »

I don't know how Roger Russell offends Polkies to deserve 4 pages of bashing in his honor but I don't think he is begging for you all to love him, like him or visit his websites.

I don't care what he thinks or write on his website but he probably don't deserve 4 pages long of everyone taking a crap on him either. I never thought he is either a Genius or a douchebag or a windbag but he lacks some taste for sure.

The crap being levied is on xcapri. Rodger Russel is simply being debunked at the behest of xcapri.

concealer404

Knucklehead wrote: »

What!!!???? You have no Polk gear!? Shame on you!:p

None. Zero. Zilch. I have nothing but Paradigm speakers right now. Looking to add more Paradigm, Mirage, or a nice pair of DCM TFs.

everpress

concealer404 wrote: »

None. Zero. Zilch. I have nothing but Paradigm speakers right now. Looking to add more Paradigm, Mirage, or a nice pair of DCM TFs.

(sigh)

C'mon, man...

concealer404

Oh alright, i'd settle for a pair of 11TLs, 15TLs, or LS90s, but only if found at non-crackpipe prices.






X sucks.

NotaSuv

Knucklehead wrote: »

That the best you got troll?

and this comment isnt a troll too? both wrong
and why not stay on topic here..want a new topic start a new thread.............
by your SN I would say I gotta agree with you after reading your posts in this thread...

NotaSuv

Back on topic.. the MIT's I put into my system have brought it to a new level...anyone wanting to HEAR THIS improvement is more than welcomed to come on over and A/B their cables vs the MIT's....or i have generic cables that can used.the invite is open to all.....to all that want to hear the difference............

nooshinjohn

hearingimpared wrote: »

The cable naysayers use RRs links everytime there is a cable debate. It is now being debunked. Besides there is another reason, the immature response to the immature deluded Rodger Russelettes & Emotivaettes.

Emoettes sounds better and is easier to prononce.;)

...just saying:)

hearingimpared

concealer404 wrote: »

None. Zero. Zilch. I have nothing but Paradigm speakers right now. Looking to add more Paradigm, Mirage, or a nice pair of DCM TFs.

No soup for you! You're fired!:D

concealer404

hearingimpared wrote: »

No soup for you! You're fired!:D

Damn.

If it makes it better, Nik has my last pair of Polks, so at least they stayed in the family.

I'm at least thankful that Polks are what really got me into this insane hobby, though.

Knucklehead

NotaSuv wrote: »

and this comment isnt a troll too? both wrong
and why not stay on topic here..want a new topic start a new thread.............
by your SN I would say I gotta agree with you after reading your posts in this thread...

and by your sig, I couldnt agree more....

headrott

I won't say he's a COMPLETE windbag, but he's definately flying up there with that pig on the cover of "Animals" that he posted on his site.:D

inspiredsports

This is getting old.

If you are one who appreciates the improvements, you can generally post a logical progression list of the various cables and IC's you've purchased and tried for yourself through the years.

If you are one who can't appreciate the improvements, you can generally post a nonsensical list of hyperlinks to the opinions of others because you don't have the courage to figure it out for yourself.

I would love to see a list from some of the naysayers who have actually voted with their wallets, purchased a progression of higher line wires, and then eventually gone back to lamp cord.

hearingimpared

inspiredsports wrote: »

This is getting old.

If you are one who appreciates the improvements, you can generally post a logical progression list of the various cables and IC's you've purchased and tried for yourself through the years.

If you are one who can't appreciate the improvements, you can generally post a nonsensical list of hyperlinks to the opinions of others because you don't have the courage to figure it out for yourself.

I would love to see a list from some of the naysayers who have actually voted with their wallets, purchased a progression of higher line wires, and then eventually gone back to lamp cord.

It's been old for years. The same crap everytime someone asks about cables. We should just ignore the hyperlink posters and warn any new guys by PM about their schtick.

heiney9

inspiredsports wrote: »

I would love to see a list from some of the naysayers who have actually voted with their wallets, purchased a progression of higher line wires, and then eventually gone back to lamp cord.

That list would be very short to non-existent.

H9

concealer404

hearingimpared wrote: »

It's been old for years. The same crap everytime someone asks about cables. We should just ignore the hyperlink posters and warn any new guys by PM about their schtick.

I've been doing that, actually...

Well, not the ignore the hyperlink posters part. I enjoy posting questions and watching them convienently skip over the and look dumb.

BlueFox

inspiredsports wrote: »

I would love to see a list from some of the naysayers who have actually voted with their wallets, purchased a progression of higher line wires, and then eventually gone back to lamp cord.

And show the same improvement on the component side. They all seem to have entry level equipment, and act as if that equipment is the pinnacle of audio perfection.

Not that there is anything wrong with entry level equipment (such as LSi speakers, Emo amps, etc.), but tweaks (cables, ICs, room acoustics) can make it sound better, and higher level equipment will sound better still.