Spearker cables..fact or fiction?

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  • Polkitup2
    Polkitup2 Posts: 1,622
    edited March 2009
    I had to look at my Calandar to see if it was April 1st, the Monoliths - lol :D
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    F1nut wrote: »
    The Monoliths......you crack me up. :D

    You other guys need to pay better attention.
    The Monoliths wrote: »
    ^^^You have unreasonably high expectations.
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Nice new moniker The Monoliths . . . I love your write ups. Jesse's right, you guys need to use those burned out memory cells. I thought we were supposed to have an eye (ear) for details as audiophiles.
    Polkitup2 wrote: »
    I had to look at my Calandar to see if it was April 1st, the Monoliths - lol :D
    It looks like several of us have been officially outed as n00bs for a while longer. And a couple of us may have credited Seafire with more talent that he was due, perhaps, in the process.

    I was in crisis mode for a few months at this time last year, so maybe I missed something from April Fool back then? I might have to sit back and watch this one play out for a bit, but to those in the know: should the picture be looking familiar by any chance?
    Alea jacta est!
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  • The Monoliths
    The Monoliths Posts: 10
    edited March 2009
    ^^^ You can't pay too much attention to anything said by F1nut or Hearingimpared. They get a huge thrill out of messing with people's heads.
    Visit us on the web and see us bask in all our tiger mapled glory HERE!
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  • The Monoliths
    The Monoliths Posts: 10
    edited March 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I thought we were supposed to have an eye (ear) for details as audiophiles.

    They never claimed to be audiophiles.
    Visit us on the web and see us bask in all our tiger mapled glory HERE!
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    The Monoliths wrote: »
    ^^^ You can't pay too much attention to anything said by F1nut or Hearingimpared. They get a huge thrill out of messing with people's heads.
    The Monoliths wrote: »
    They never claimed to be audiophiles.
    Now I know you're not Seafart!

    Have to go, but the suspense is über-tingling!
    Alea jacta est!
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited March 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    WTF was the topic?

    Dada... Dada... Dada...
    This thread is ridiculous. Even by my standards. And my standards include sucker punching hobos. Lots and lots of hobos.
    I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    Now I know you're not Seafart!

    Have to go, but the suspense is über-tingling!

    Think Spidey sense as well as an recent action hero.........perhaps from Gotham.

    Of course I could be wayyyyyyyyyy offfffffff.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2009
    spiderman spiderman everybodies neighborhood spiderman...
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited March 2009
    Does Batman use Monster Cable or Nordst perhaps? Or perhaps he can't tell the difference so he just gets dollar store cable and when he needs to grapple hook to the next building.....ooooooohhhhhhh...noooooooooooo!!! Batman plummets to his death!!!
    SDA-1C (full mods)
    Carver TFM-55
    NAD 1130 Pre-amp
    Rega Planar 3 TT/Shelter 501 MkII
    The Clamp
    Revox A77 Mk IV Dolby reel to reel
    Thorens TD160/Mission 774 arm/Stanton 881S Shibata
    Nakamichi CR7 Cassette Deck
    Rotel RCD-855 with modified tube output stage
    Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus
    ADC Soundshaper 3 EQ
    Ben's IC's
    Nitty Gritty 1.5FI RCM
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited March 2009
    joseph.v.chen wrote: »
    spiderman spiderman everybodies neighborhood spiderman...

    Spiderpear, Spiderpear, friendly neighborhood Spiderpear.
    SDA-1C (full mods)
    Carver TFM-55
    NAD 1130 Pre-amp
    Rega Planar 3 TT/Shelter 501 MkII
    The Clamp
    Revox A77 Mk IV Dolby reel to reel
    Thorens TD160/Mission 774 arm/Stanton 881S Shibata
    Nakamichi CR7 Cassette Deck
    Rotel RCD-855 with modified tube output stage
    Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus
    ADC Soundshaper 3 EQ
    Ben's IC's
    Nitty Gritty 1.5FI RCM
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2009
    holy cow batman !
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  • seafire
    seafire Posts: 459
    edited March 2009
    BOOOOO:cool:
    HEhehehehe hahahaha:):):)
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  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited March 2009
    Could the Monoliths be the one and only DK? Those cabinets and counter tops look strangely familiar??????

    Gordon
    2 Channel -
    Martin Logan Spire, 2 JL Audio F112 subs
    McIntosh C1000 Controller with Tube pre amp, 2 MC501 amplifiers, MD1K Transport & DAC, MR-88 Tuner
    WireWorld Eclipse 6.0 speaker wire and jumpers, Eclipse 5^2 Squared Balanced IC's. Silver Eclipse PCs (5)
    Symposium Rollerblocks 2+ (16)Black Diamond Racing Mk 3 pits (8)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited March 2009
    Fongolio wrote: »
    Does Batman use Monster Cable or Nordst perhaps? Or perhaps he can't tell the difference so he just gets dollar store cable and when he needs to grapple hook to the next building.....ooooooohhhhhhh...noooooooooooo!!! Batman plummets to his death!!!
    NOoooo... Batman being high class probably uses MYTH cables with gold and silver baits (ends) :cool::p
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
    I drive 500 miles and return and this THREAD IS STILL HERE!

    Shame on everyone! No more discussion on this topic is needed, I think.

    The one thing that has 'really' surprised me with all these interminable posts. Is if you want to contest seafire all you need is a Ph.D. from M.I.T., in solid state physics. And you mean to tell me with ALL the EXPERTISE on this site. No one is a Physicist! Well, then there is NO debate on the objective side here! Seafire...your own educational qualifications on this topic are? Please list. And do not list 35 years experience. Let me see some SCIENCE graduate degrees, please.

    Everyone else. Let's see the Degrees! Or maybe we can call up the guys who have them...seems to me we've done that on this site!

    There is an objective point to saying that the wiring and circuitry in both a lot of equipment and speakers is not very high-end. The Cat 5 debate...well I guess there is one. That's why I'm here, to learn a thing or two.

    Have I heard differences in cables. Yes and no. I've found that as I live with a cable for a while it often loses it's 'initial' impression and sounds less of an improvement than I first thought--but that's probably because I doubt everything in my life all the time, even myself, especially myself.

    One last factor. To Heiney9, and Nelson Pass, indeed hearing is 'subjective' in the final analysis. But also important, and I've said this many many times here. Unless you can at least play a musical instrument or two or more--by EAR, can tell when you are sharp or flat or maybe even have 'perfect pitch', I do not think your ears are 'qualified' to make audio judgements about high end tweaks to your system, including cables that cost a months salary or more.

    The EARS you use are significant. So we have two questions here.

    1. Do you have a Ph.D. in solid state physics?
    2. Do you have the concert hall hearing of a conductor?

    This covers both the OBJECTIVE SIDE. And the SUBJECTIVE side.

    Now those of you who are conductors and Physicists, please step forward and either support or quelch seafire's arugments!

    Short of this I call this discussion to an end.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2009
    (1) I do not have a PhD doesn't that stand for Pile High and Deep
    but graduated University Scholar Status Princeton University

    (2) However I am Juilliard School Lincoln Center Trained
    studies with Ivan Galamian, David Cerone, Christine Dethier
    Louise Behrend, Josef Gingold, Alexander Schneider,
    Robert Mann, and may others

    however I am and NewBie so time to pound on me now !
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited March 2009
    Pic's or it didn't happen.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
    Joseph,

    Both requirements are not necessary. You have one. So at least we know you've got the 'ear' to discern good sound!

    You also mention two very prestigious schools so the Ph.D. slam loses it's force.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    Hawkeye wrote: »
    Could the Monoliths be the one and only DK? Those cabinets and counter tops look strangely familiar??????

    Gordon
    Yup! I think you got him! Scroll down to the last pic on the bottom of this post:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=949112&postcount=1

    Notice the pic on the wall and everything, behind the "monolith"? Of course, somebody could have cleverly stollen the pic, but even the use of bold type is consistent with the style of our faux-n00b Superhero!

    P.S. Proof that cables DO make a difference: the aptly named Hawkeye uses the good (expensive) stuff, and his brain is obviously now operating on a higher level than the rest of us because it has not been subjected to years of rattles and vibrations caused by listening to music through the bad cables that the rest of us own.
    Alea jacta est!
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  • starterl
    starterl Posts: 2
    edited March 2009
    hi!, here it is http://sourceradix.com/m/f277.html
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    ... No more discussion on this topic is needed, I think. ...
    We aren't, if you didn't notice ... and it was more of a joke than a discussion to begin with anyway! Welcome back, where d'ya go?
    Alea jacta est!
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    starterl wrote: »
    hi!, here it is http://sourceradix.com/m/f277.html
    Spam ... reported!
    Alea jacta est!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited March 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    .....it was more of a joke than a discussion.....

    Nominated for best post of the thread so far!!! :cool:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
    Kex wrote: »
    We aren't, if you didn't notice ... and it was more of a joke than a discussion to begin with anyway! Welcome back, where d'ya go?

    We've been on springbreak and I had to go to Pa. for the 40 Day Memorial service for my mother who died in February. Now we're left with an empty house to rent or sell. My father passed away end of last summer! It's been rough year. But nothing compared to this thread...?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2009
    You are absolutely correct.
    I have a tendency to react and later regret what I post.

    It is MY GUILT for not continuing on and working for those higher degrees.

    Everyday I regret that fact !

    The REAL Criteria could simply be an Interest in Music and its faithful sound reproduction.
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  • Kex
    Kex Posts: 5,194
    edited March 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    We've been on springbreak and I had to go to Pa. for the 40 Day Memorial service for my mother who died in February. Now we're left with an empty house to rent or sell. My father passed away end of last summer! It's been rough year. But nothing compared to this thread...?

    cnh
    Surely this thread is fun, and entertaining, in comparison?
    Alea jacta est!
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,394
    edited March 2009
    Boy. I spent all morning read through all the posts in this thread. What is this thread about again??? LOL

    Halen
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2009
    halenhoang wrote: »
    Boy. I spent all morning read through all the posts in this thread. What is this thread about again??? LOL

    Halen

    I've only been gone a couple of days (so I had read it when Bobt started it), then it got seaFIRED and it took me a while to catch up, now I don't know what's up! Maybe we should start sharing our 'favorite' recipies! And argue about how to test whether or not the 'food' tastes good OBJECTIVELY?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited March 2009
    what thread is the longest and most widely viewed.....
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2009
    joseph.v.chen wrote: »
    what thread is the longest and most widely viewed.....


    Use the search function.........
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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