I Love SL2000 Tweeters

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  • License2ILL
    License2ILL Posts: 71
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Judging from your attempt at restoring the Monitor 10's that your pop butchered to death, it's obvious that the apple didn't fall far from the tree. You couldn't tweak your way out of a paper bag......hack.

    I'm F1nut (aka your huckleberry) and I approve this post.

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  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited March 2008
    They do when everyone else is at that level.

    I apologize for offending you...and very well.

    "Tuff guys" resort to empty threats...I have not made any...to the contrary of others here. But I'm certain you find that ok. in your good book right?

    Thanks for the help bro.

    I have all the proof I need.

    SRS's, 2.3's and 2B's all sounding as good as new for less than $3 per speaker.

    Not all the tweeters need capped. Only the harshest one and the guys at epohouston.com agreed with me completely. They said only a cap would do what I'm trying to accomplish which is get rid of the harshness coming out of the tweeters.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited March 2008
    This thread is a disgrace to the forum. It amazes me with what sheer stupidity it has posted within. Thank the Polk gods that the stupidity won't be around long.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited March 2008
    in summary Jstus "blah blah blah"

    People still use them inline with XO or not...it's typacilly viewed as a matter of preference....which is what CL is trying to tell you to do or not.

    You ppl are not the final word on anything around here just as much I am not.

    But what is a fact is that he has told you to do it or not...and that you all can leave the thread if it soooo bothers you. *yawn*

    Um, no, it's not.

    Stop trying to change the subject.

    Don't you have some stupid certification exam to be studying for?
    Expert Moron Extraordinaire

    You're just jealous 'cause the voices don't talk to you!
  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited March 2008
    Thanks for the help bro.

    I have all the proof I need.

    SRS's, 2.3's and 2B's all sounding as good as new for less than $3 per speaker.

    Not all the tweeters need capped. Only the harshest one and the guys at epohouston.com agreed with me completely. They said only a cap would do what I'm trying to accomplish which is get rid of the harshness coming out of the tweeters.


    Carl, you quote this idoit and then add nothing to what he siad.

    Now, I have tried to tell these folks that you aren't what you seem to be on this forum.

    But, once eagain you chime in with some nonesense **** about the tweeters sounding as good as new. NO THEY DON'T. STOP IT!

    If you don't like the SL-2000s and don't like their Polk engineered replacements, get rid of the **** speakers. Don't bastardize them by cutting off the upper freqencies and then tell anyone that will give you time of day that they somehow sound better! They do not.

    God Damn, there comes a time when you have to understand that you are just being stupid.

    You and this other dumb **** have reached that point.

    You want me to come over and critique your systems. I cannot. I will not get into this back and forth ****. If it sounds good to you, carry on wayward son (from Kansas). But do not keep trying to preach to inexperienced polk users that some stupid cap will enhace their listening experience. It simply will not.

    Damn this is frustrating.
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited March 2008
    Jumbo shrimp is an oxymoron....
  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,788
    edited March 2008
    Shut up Tom....
  • candyliquor35m
    candyliquor35m Posts: 2,267
    edited March 2008
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    Carl, you quote this idoit and then add nothing to what he siad.

    Now, I have tried to tell these folks that you aren't what you seem to be on this forum.

    But, once eagain you chime in with some nonesense **** about the tweeters sounding as good as new. NO THEY DON'T. STOP IT!

    If you don't like the SL-2000s and don't like their Polk engineered replacements, get rid of the **** speakers. Don't bastardize them by cutting off the upper freqencies and then tell anyone that will give you time of day that they somehow sound better! They do not.

    God Damn, there comes a time when you have to understand that you are just being stupid.

    You and this other dumb **** have reached that point.

    You want me to come over and critique your systems. I cannot. I will not get into this back and forth ****. If it sounds good to you, carry on wayward son (from Kansas). But do not keep trying to preach to inexperienced polk users that some stupid cap will enhace their listening experience. It simply will not.

    Damn this is frustrating.

    Dave,

    I appreciate your opinion but you haven't sat down for more than maybe 1 minute or so to listen to my system. You've been to my house a few times but haven't had enough time to stay for a good listening session.

    I have not heard the system you tested the cap on that I gave you. I'm not even using that cap anymore. It doesn't sound as good as the ones I'm using now. So I have to take your word that it didn't sound good to you.

    That doesn't mean they don't sound good on mine. Your system is totally different from mine from top to bottom.
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited March 2008
    License, well here I am trying to be buds and let you handle my light work, if that is the best you have it was pretty weak, you want to play your going to have to step your game up, brokeback, brokeknee, brokeleg would be fun games, but I hope your not making fun of **** sex people, its not cool, oh, my stuff is good across the 50 and then some, so give me a shout.

    Yea, down by the river, son it just aint your day. We will have a real fun date.

    Rock on bro.

    RT1
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,492
    edited March 2008
    "hey chum !!! how goes it?" !:D

    Thanks for asking. I'm bad. I'm nationwide. You, however, are still working on la bestia salvaje and you're in your mid-thirties!?!.....tsk, tsk, tsk.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,004
    edited March 2008
    Threads like this make this forum a laughing joke. I have no power to make it happen, but I for one would hope that the mods would be given more power to make sure that threads like this do not exist.

    14 pages consisting of 1 [guesstimated] page of audio chat and 13 pages of complete.......well, I'm not gonna say it but I'm sure anybody can figure it out. I thought I was contributing to something awesome here, I.E. the Polk forum. To the senior management, please make it to where the positive contributing members of this forum are not ashamed.

    Please. I beg of you. This is getting ridiculous.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • aud10n3wb13
    aud10n3wb13 Posts: 84
    edited March 2008
    The caps arrived today. Thank you very much CL.

    I would like to ask everyone to please be descent and respectful. No bashing anymore. Right speaker with CL's cap was on A and the unmodified Left speaker was on B. I added the CAP on the black wire. The area where the black wire was had the + sign.

    I conducted a lot of A/B test by listening to musical instruments(original cd, not mp3) like songs with tambourine and triangle. I have to say that many frequency were lost on the speaker with CAPS. The sound of the tambourine didn't sound properly anymore. I think, it sounded like a speaker with a thick cloth cover.

    I also took REW reading. Frequency I used was from 500hz to 20000hz. Below are the 2 graphs calibrated at 75db using corrected cal file for my Radio Shack SPL meter.

    rta11twithoutcapsrc4.jpg

    rta11twithcapstn6.jpg

    I think I really have to save money on the RDO194 upgrade. However, I might bring home another RTA 11TL tomorrow afternoon. :D I got it for $100. However, the lower part of the wood was a bit separated as shown on picture. It was like 1mm. I don't know if that would be a real issue. Hopefully, it's easy to fix.

    Oh, that is 11TL. Currently, mine is 11T only. Don't know how much 11TL is better than 11T.
  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited March 2008
    Thanks, Audionewb13.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2008
    Oh, that is 11TL. Currently, mine is 11T only. Don't know how much 11TL is better than 11T.


    The "TL" has a different x-over and the newer sl3000 tweeter. Completely different than the "T"
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • aud10n3wb13
    aud10n3wb13 Posts: 84
    edited March 2008
    heiney9 wrote: »
    The "TL" has a different x-over and the newer sl3000 tweeter. Completely different than the "T"

    Does the 11TLs sound better than the 11Ts? But for sure in future, I will upgrade to RDO194. :)

    Here is the pic. I really don't know if I should spend $100 on these pair of 11TLs. What do you think about the picture guys?

    polkaudiocorneris0.jpg
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,492
    edited March 2008
    Inject wood glue and clamp them. Be as good as new.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • aud10n3wb13
    aud10n3wb13 Posts: 84
    edited March 2008
    F1nut wrote: »
    Inject wood glue and clamp them. Be as good as new.

    Thanks! I didn't think about that. ;)
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited March 2008
    Does the 11TLs sound better than the 11Ts? But for sure in future, I will upgrade to RDO194. :)

    Yes the TL's sound a bit better because of the newer, nicer sl3000 tweeter. Also be aware the replacement for the sl2000 in your "T" is the RD0194-1 and the replacement for the sl3000 in the "TL" is the RD0198-1.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • License2ILL
    License2ILL Posts: 71
    edited March 2008
    T & J;

    tsk tsk tsk ;;;;;; I'm the one with the bikes...come thru....and try 20's dyck face.....your other jiberrish is just that.......hahahhaha wannabes I'll say it again.

    we'll cuntinue this tho.....stay tuned.......and "ever-watching" "big brothers" :D
    and thnks for the spin on this azzwiping convo !!!!....
    Exciting.!! as this plot thickens...........I'll be back tho trust me....following up "fo sho". You've made this interesting.....for more than just myself :D

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    Gonna ride across the river deep and wide
    Ride across the river to the other side'
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    I'm really starting to think that you have some issues:rolleyes:
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited March 2008
    woops see below
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited March 2008
    /\ /\Starting to think:confused:/\/\
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited March 2008
    I'll be back tho trust me....following up "fo sho".

    Great, you all have a new hall monitor.

    On a side note. I really like my sl2000's too........Only because I haven't heard rdo's yet. :p
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited March 2008
    /\ /\Starting to think:confused:/\/\
    I was just giving him the benifit of the doubt for the first 70 posts.:D
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  • jakelm
    jakelm Posts: 4,081
    edited March 2008
    The caps sure screwed up those 11T's. Dips in freq all over the place. Please leave the caps off.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited March 2008
    I also took REW reading. Frequency I used was from 500hz to 20000hz. Below are the 2 graphs calibrated at 75db using corrected cal file for my Radio Shack SPL meter.

    rta11twithoutcapsrc4.jpg

    rta11twithcapstn6.jpg

    Thank you for taking the time to produce these measurements.

    Can you print the graphs so that the frequency grid marks between 10 kHz and 20 kHz will show?

    The graph without the cap shows a 5 dB peak at approximately 13 kHz and a rolloff after that point. Your results are close to the classic response characteristic for the SL2000 tweeter.

    What is interesting is that the graph with the cap shows the same 5 dB peak at 13 kHz, yet with a more severe rolloff after the peak with a 13 dB null at about 15 kHz and a new 3 dB spike at about 17 kHz.

    The 29 dB null at around 3 kHz is of some concern because the fundamental frequency components of female voices and some instruments are being attenuated.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited March 2008
    Thanks, but what I meant was can the graph be printed so that the vertical grid marks for 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 kHz show up. The way the graph is shown, one must guess at what response corresponds to a particular frequency between 10 kHz and 20 kHz.
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  • aud10n3wb13
    aud10n3wb13 Posts: 84
    edited March 2008
    Thanks, but what I meant was can the graph be printed so that the vertical grid marks for 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 kHz show up. The way the graph is shown, one must guess at what response corresponds to a particular frequency between 10 kHz and 20 kHz.

    Got it! :) I'll ask some support from the person who wrote REW tool. I can't find the setting.

    I'll get back to you.
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