Gang rape victim sentenced to jail and lashes.

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  • carpenter
    carpenter Posts: 362
    edited November 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    When I was in Dammam, Saudi Arabia.... I made the mistake of walking into the wrong side of a Burger King. A few great big Saudi's very quickly (and efficiently) escorted me to the other side to keep the women and their families separate from me.

    I apologized for my mistake and understanding that it was an honest mistake they made no hassle of it. However, it was clearly expected that I not repeat the error.

    If you had a different set of genitalia, I'm afraid that story might have ended differently.

    Those kind of stories sure do put the "Lets Bash America" frenzy in proportion.
    "If the global crisis continues, by the end of the year Only two Banks will be operational, the Blood Bank and the Sperm Bank. Then these 2 banks will merge and it will be called 'The Bloody **** Bank'"
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,440
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    I've noticed you've been a lot more "PC" since your last round of attacks on me, are you starting more? F1 and HEaring thread trolling my posts with attacks, nothing new here... move on...


    I gotta admit, I have your buttons and they are easy to punch. I don’t even have to directly make a reference you. All I gotta do is show up in a thread and talk about things such as "getting along with other cultures" and you come out firing at me. Gotta love the position I have in the arguments


    Cool, thanks for admitting publicly what you are about. Are you going to email Justin and Al now to complain again about how poorly you're being treated? You're a joke, son. Nothing more, nothing less.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2007
    Why does this stuff always have to get personal? Now it'll get shut down.
    Silverti wrote:
    You ask me, what’s wrong with America today is you guys. America has become a lot more understanding country over time. Most people treat everyone else with respect independent of race, sex or religion. It’s amazing how absolutely hypocritical your stands are on these issues in the middle east as compared to the USA. You guys have the exact same mantality of these people in the middle east.

    I'm sure you think you're right Silverti, but some people disagree with you. Many. You refuse to listen to anyone's argument against your views, you just plow ahead. You won't see the other side of the argument, and just insult people as being closed-minded for not agreeing with you. That is being closed-minded. No one's ganging up on you because of who you are, just waht you're saying and your complete inability to at least give counterpoints to things rather than broad generalizations and insults.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • Strong Bad
    Strong Bad Posts: 4,277
    edited November 2007
    Hmmm, cultural understanding??? Ok, let me try...

    I fully understand that their culture SUCKS!

    Ok, 5:15, off to practice some of my favorite culture....Titties and Beer!

    God Bless America! :D


    John
    No excuses!
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    Cool, thanks for admitting publicly what you are about. Are you going to email Justin and Al now to complain again about how poorly you're being treated? You're a joke, son. Nothing more, nothing less.


    Dude, you have a serious stalker complex. Are you looking in my windows?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,440
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    Dude, you have a serious stalker complex. Are you looking in my windows?


    I'm enjoying watching you dig your own hole, again. Please don't stop, the entertainment value is off the charts.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2007
    How can you take a position that I am close minded in arguments where I am the one rationalizing the people not be closed minded?

    As to inability to give counterpoints... lol... If my counterpoints weren’t powerful I would have a pack of guys so angry at me that they thread stalk me. That’s the problem with my positions on this board with the "dog pack"... They have no answer for any of my counterpoints and they immediate directly attack me as a person. Aka... These guys cannot respond to the logic so they respond the *me* personally. Man I love it, I feed on that stuff, and the greatest sign of weakness you can give out in any argument.


    Of course in their own way, I fully understand that they have the ears of more important people and are goating me to do something that the moderators would consider bannable. Their current tactic os the bulk of them attack and drop goofy logic bombs like you see here that I was some how the bad guy.. although a simple strait read through the thread would prove other wise.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2007
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'm enjoying watching you dig your own hole, again. Please don't stop, the entertainment value is off the charts.

    between you and I right here, we both know you got owned pretty bad a few weeks ago, I can understand your need to feed your large ego and try to get some of it back with this crazy talk you are posting right now about “entertainment value”. We both know why you came to this thread to attack me…

    So as we both know, the entertainment is all mine.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2007
    So with that, Im out of this thread. For those left, read the logic I posted in the first 3 pages before being attacked and maybe we all can talk about it civilized before the "pack" comes back.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    I've noticed you've been a lot more "PC" since your last round of attacks on me, are you starting more? F1 and HEaring thread trolling my posts with attacks, nothing new here... move on...


    I gotta admit, I have your buttons and they are easy to punch. I don’t even have to directly make a reference you. All I gotta do is show up in a thread and talk about things such as "getting along with other cultures" and you come out firing at me. Gotta love the position I have in the arguments

    Another politically correct guy's lie!!! We can all read Sir Silverti and you do exactly as Bobman put "you bait" you don't just express your opinion. I showed that in my first reply to you. LIAR!

    Silverti wrote: »
    Bunch of computer arm chair pussys if you ask me.

    The first time you came right out and said what you think without putting a veil over it or twisting the verbiage. . . hey I think I've gained a little respect for you boy.

    BTW I guarantee that your political correct self wouldn't dare say that to me or anyone else here if you were standing eye to eye. . .
  • carpenter
    carpenter Posts: 362
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    Again, historical perspecitve.
    Hey Silverti, unlike Saudi Arabia, in an American website you are entitled to your own opinion, and have the freedom to express it.
    However, if you choose to bring up history, you might as well get it straight. The Ottoman empire ruled most the middle east until WW1, After that war and until WW2, the British and French empires ruled most of the middle east. out breaks of violence between Shea and Sunny Muslims happened many times in the past. worse then what we see today. just a quick FYI.

    F1, I'm afraid you are wasting your breath with this fine polkie. guys like Silverti never budge.
    "If the global crisis continues, by the end of the year Only two Banks will be operational, the Blood Bank and the Sperm Bank. Then these 2 banks will merge and it will be called 'The Bloody **** Bank'"
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    If my counterpoints weren’t powerful I would have a pack of guys so angry at me that they thread stalk me. .

    Once again boy reel in the ego you are starting sound like ka7niq repeating the same thing over and over and over again hoping that someone will believe the lie. The point above is BS, no one is angry with you and no one is stalking you. You are digging your own hole again.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,440
    edited November 2007
    You need professional help. Seriously.

    As Bob stated, "Your history of absurdity is well-documented on the Club Polk forums."

    And between you, me, and the entire forum right here, right now. You tried to get me banned for sending you PM's. That, of course, didn't happen and you've been licking your wounds ever since. I know it, you know it and now the entire forum knows it. Right now, you couldn't look like more of a fool.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    Wow you call us angry. You made three posts congruently in less than six minutes. Good thing I have you on ignore and can't read them or I'm sure I would be laughing so hard that my sides would be splitting.

    You are a pot calling the kettle black kind of guy and it is scary that you can't see it.
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited November 2007
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Tonight i'm going to participate is some of our f***ed up Western Culture by spinning tunes at the stripclub. I can assure you that the furthest thing from my (and the other patrons) mind will be to cover these girls with all those f***ed up black sheets (or whatever you call them).

    Sorry, their culture is just plain F***ed up!!!

    America ROCKS!

    Agreed. Bahrain is another country where you can drive across a bridge from Saudi and get there (an hour drive away). Bahrain is where the Saudi's go to party with the Russian prostitutes, drink, drugs, etc. Bahrain is also where Michael Jackson decided to take up permanent residence after his legal problems in California.

    I was laughing when I got on the plane in Amsterdam to fly to Saudi Arabia. As we were boarding, the Saudi guy put down his HUSTLER magazine and left it in the boarding area of the airport and finished slamming his mixed drink. The Saudi wife put on the black burka and veil covering up her obviously surgically enhanced cleavage contained in a low-cut top. Hilarious.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    Agreed. Bahrain is another country where you can drive across a bridge from Saudi and get there (an hour drive away). Bahrain is where the Saudi's go to party with the Russian prostitutes, drink, drugs, etc. Bahrain is also where Michael Jackson decided to take up permanent residence after his legal problems in California.

    I was laughing when I got on the plane in Amsterdam to fly to Saudi Arabia. As we were boarding, the Saudi guy put down his HUSTLER magazine and left it in the boarding area of the airport and finished slamming his mixed drink. The Saudi wife put on the black burka and veil covering up her obviously surgically enhanced cleavage contained in a low-cut top. Hilarious.

    That story is priceless! Maybe we should start calling Bahrain "Sin City" instead of Vegas.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    So with that, Im out of this thread. For those left, read the logic I posted in the first 3 pages before being attacked and maybe we all can talk about it civilized before the "pack" comes back.

    . . . and as is your way, you cut and run! You start the stuff with you slanted veiled methods and shots then when you get called on it you, see above. Disgusting.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2007
    wolves_fighting.jpg
    :D
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2007
    ohskigod wrote: »
    yes he does, dude, why argue? :)

    I said I don't agree with the law. But who am I to judge a system that has been in place for 2000 years? You think your better cause you follow the laws of the bible? They have their way of living and I thank a higher power everyday I dont have to live my life in that manner. But it's not my place to push my morals of anyone. The tern live and let live comes to mind. When the people are ready for change they will change. Til then its up to them to change, not us to change them.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2007
    That is the way Mr. Chamberlin of Britan thought when dealing with the ****'s in the 1930's.
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited November 2007
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I said I don't agree with the law. But who am I to judge a system that has been in place for 2000 years? You think your better cause you follow the laws of the bible? They have their way of living and I thank a higher power everyday I dont have to live my life in that manner. But it's not my place to push my morals of anyone. The tern live and let live comes to mind. When the people are ready for change they will change. Til then its up to them to change, not us to change them.

    The problem with religion is that only one can be correct.
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2007
    Silverti wrote: »
    .
    . Most people treat everyone else with respect independent of race, sex or religion. .


    so, I'm a cultural bigot because I don't respect the right of Saudi Arabia to disrespect their women? My disrespect makes me a cultural bigot, but the ones who lash women for getting raped are just following their culture?

    aaalllllrighty then..lol

    by the way, its pretty easy to see you get a rise out of causing trouble. everyone else gets mad at you, me, I just feel sorry for you. By the way, if you can break out some other insult besides "cultural bigot" that'd be fabu, be a little creative eh?

    if that makes me a cultural bigot, then so it be.

    calling people a p*ssy actually makes you look like the intellectual inferior, just throwin it out there.


    Joe, Jesse, stop giving this dude the time of day, why spin the wheels?
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited November 2007
    Since the main antagonist has now left, I guess this is pointless, but here's my parting question. I would legitimately love to see what I'm missing. :

    In all cultures, those in the culture believe that their culture is "correct". Most believe that their culture should be spread across the globe. It's the nature of having a culture that you would think this type of thing.

    The culture in question, the Saudi culture, believes women are inferior to men, and treats them like animals or worse (I would never treat an animal as badly as they treat women). They also believe that we (Americans) are heathens, f ollowing a path of sin, and should either believe in their way of life, or die and burn in hell for eternity. I think that's a basic assessment of two very small portions of their culture. But it's their culture, and some in this thread are OK with that, because that's what they believe. You're perfectly willing ot accept atrocities against humans as long as it is OK within that culture. They aren't bigots, that's just their way.

    In our (American) culture, conversely, we believe women should be treated as equals to men. That all races and all HUMANS should be treated equal. One thing we may have in COMMON with the Saudi culture is we ALSO think our culture is correct, and that those who torture and murder other humans will die and burn in hell. The difference is, in your view, we're not allowed to think that way. Our cultural views are not valid as a culture; we are just bigots. We should not want to spread our cultural ideals of equality throughout the world; we should in fact not have a cultural identity at all, lest we be considered bigoted, jingoistic neanderthals.

    I'm sorry, I have beliefs. I'm willing to say that another culture is WRONG when it comes to crimes against humanity. I'm glad to see that some people are also willing to stand up for such ideals. We're not afraid to look at something that is obviously wrong, and say "hold on a second... that's not right." I'm truly sorry and scared that some of you can't see that.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2007
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I said I don't agree with the law. But who am I to judge a system that has been in place for 2000 years? You think your better cause you follow the laws of the bible?


    you know whats funny? just by my disdain for Saudi Arabia's mistreatment of women, you assume I am taking it from a purely religious standpoint. You might be shocked to know that I've maybe read 4 passages of the bible in my life. I've been to Church once a year....tops. I'm not the most religious guy in the planet, yet you made a pretty broad assumption. In my eyes, thats very telling

    I find your position that only religious people would find this type of treatment of women barbaric, There are many people of many creeds that feel the same way, not just fundamentalist Christians.

    If I had to wager a guess, you have a serious problem with people of faith. Whoever disagrees with your position must be a Christian huh? Maybe I have more faith than I think. All this time I thought I was going to hell in a handbasket.........who knew? :rolleyes:
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2007
    Face wrote: »
    wolves_fighting.jpg
    :D


    lol..nice :D
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,771
    edited November 2007
    rskarvan wrote: »
    The problem with religion is that only one can be correct.

    What makes you think any of them are correct?
  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2007
    ohskigod wrote: »
    you know whats funny? just by my disdain for Saudi Arabia's mistreatment of women, you assume I am taking it from a purely religious standpoint. You might be shocked to know that I've maybe read 4 passages of the bible in my life. I've been to Church once a year....tops. I'm not the most religious guy in the planet, yet you made a pretty broad assumption. In my eyes, thats very telling

    I find your position that only religious people would find this type of treatment of women barbaric, There are many people of many creeds that feel the same way, not just fundamentalist Christians.

    If I had to wager a guess, you have a serious problem with people of faith. Whoever disagrees with your position must be a Christian huh? Maybe I have more faith than I think. All this time I thought I was going to hell in a handbasket.........who knew? :rolleyes:
    If you read my post you'd see I said BIBLICAL LAWS. THe laws of the united states are the laws of the bible and if you didnt know that regardless if you go to church or not you need to go back to school. LEARN TO READ before you come across with an opinion.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,982
    edited November 2007
    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Beer!
    Did somebody say Beer? :D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2007
    Its sad everyone does not have the rights we do today but I'm guessing if you have to cover up the women to keep them from getting raped then our rights wouldn't work for them.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited November 2007
    That's just it! None of them are correct! All have been slanted & interpreted & reinvented to suit whatever majority thought it should be. All of them are decidely favored toward men & women get the short end of the stick in all of them.

    All of them have been used to justify man's inhumanity against man with the understanding that they were doing it for God. All religions have been used to try to coerce people into doing whatever their version or slice of the bible/koran thinks they should do.

    The entire world would be a better place if religion simply didn't exist, because then no one could claim that God was on THEIR side!

    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    What makes you think any of them are correct?
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