Gang rape victim sentenced to jail and lashes.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071116/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_justice
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A Saudi court sentenced a woman who had been gang raped to six months in jail and 200 lashes more than doubling her initial penalty for being in the car of a man who was not a relative, a newspaper reported Thursday.
In its decision Wednesday, the court also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the 19-year-old woman, the Arab News reported on its English-language Web site.
According to Arab News, the court said the woman's punishment was increased because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."
She had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicting her of violating Saudi's rigid laws on segregation of the sexes.
Under Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islamic Sharia law, women are not allowed in public in the company of men other than their male relatives.
The initial sentences for the men convicted of the gang rape ranged from 10 months to five years in prison. Their new sentences range from two to nine years, the paper said.
The attack took place in 2006. The woman has said that it occurred as she tried to retrieve her picture from a male high school student she used to know. While in the car with the student, two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area. She said she was raped there by seven men, three of whom also attacked her friend.
The judges, appointed by the king, have a wide discretion in handing down sentences, often said to depend on their whim. A rapist, for instance, could receive anywhere from a light or no sentence, to death.
The woman was identified in the media only as the Girl from Qatif. The case was referred back to the General Court by an appeals court last summer, after the woman's attorney argued the verdict was too lenient for the rapists and unjust for the victim.
The court also banned the lawyer from defending her, confiscated his license to practice law and summoned him to a disciplinary hearing later this month.
"I explained to them that it was my job to do everything legal in order to serve my client. But they did not listen," the lawyer, Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, was quoted by the paper as saying.
Well. That ....... sucks.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A Saudi court sentenced a woman who had been gang raped to six months in jail and 200 lashes more than doubling her initial penalty for being in the car of a man who was not a relative, a newspaper reported Thursday.
In its decision Wednesday, the court also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the 19-year-old woman, the Arab News reported on its English-language Web site.
According to Arab News, the court said the woman's punishment was increased because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."
She had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicting her of violating Saudi's rigid laws on segregation of the sexes.
Under Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islamic Sharia law, women are not allowed in public in the company of men other than their male relatives.
The initial sentences for the men convicted of the gang rape ranged from 10 months to five years in prison. Their new sentences range from two to nine years, the paper said.
The attack took place in 2006. The woman has said that it occurred as she tried to retrieve her picture from a male high school student she used to know. While in the car with the student, two men got into the vehicle and drove them to a secluded area. She said she was raped there by seven men, three of whom also attacked her friend.
The judges, appointed by the king, have a wide discretion in handing down sentences, often said to depend on their whim. A rapist, for instance, could receive anywhere from a light or no sentence, to death.
The woman was identified in the media only as the Girl from Qatif. The case was referred back to the General Court by an appeals court last summer, after the woman's attorney argued the verdict was too lenient for the rapists and unjust for the victim.
The court also banned the lawyer from defending her, confiscated his license to practice law and summoned him to a disciplinary hearing later this month.
"I explained to them that it was my job to do everything legal in order to serve my client. But they did not listen," the lawyer, Abdul Rahman al-Lahem, was quoted by the paper as saying.
Well. That ....... sucks.
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Isn't it funny how cultures differ. Just think, they would be appalled if we did not sentence her also if it happened over here. She would have been better off killing they guys, at least the sentencing would have been worth it if she got caught.
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I still don't see why anyone objects to turning that entire region into a sheet of glass.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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requires too much energy to waste on them I bio bomb them.
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bobman1235 wrote: »I still don't see why anyone objects to turning that entire region into a sheet of glass.
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When I was in Dammam, Saudi Arabia.... I made the mistake of walking into the wrong side of a Burger King. A few great big Saudi's very quickly (and efficiently) escorted me to the other side to keep the women and their families separate from me.
I apologized for my mistake and understanding that it was an honest mistake they made no hassle of it. However, it was clearly expected that I not repeat the error. -
Saudi arabia is an independent country with it's own culture and legal system and I respect that. I'm just thankful I don't live in such a screwed-up place.
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When I was in Dammam, Saudi Arabia.... I made the mistake of walking into the wrong side of a Burger King. A few great big Saudi's very quickly (and efficiently) escorted me to the other side to keep the women and their families separate from me.
I apologized for my mistake and understanding that it was an honest mistake they made no hassle of it. However, it was clearly expected that I not repeat the error.
Is that kind of like going on the wrong side of the railroad tracks?
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Saudi arabia is an independent country with it's own culture and legal system and I respect that. I'm just thankful I don't live in such a screwed-up place.
so's the Sudan bro, there's still a right and wrong......just sayin
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The girl from Quif should have known better then to ride in a car with men other then family...by 19 she was old enough to know the rules/laws of her screwed up society.The first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club
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Saudi arabia is an independent country with it's own culture and legal system and I respect that. I'm just thankful I don't live in such a screwed-up place.
When your culture involves oppression and murder of entire races or genders, there's no reason to think you have to respect that. That's ridiculous.If you will it, dude, it is no dream. -
You know, I get the whole "who's to say we're right and they're wrong" thing...but this is just effing ridiculous. I get that there are cultural differences, and maybe they're just too complex for me to grasp, but I'm equipped with an internal moral instinct of right and wrong, and thiat's just wrong...
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takes a real hardass to whip a 19 year old girl that was just gangraped too :rolleyes:
culture my kiester, give me 10 minutes alone in a room with one of the whippers (or guys who made the decision). wouldnt kill him, that would be wrong. but a M.O.A.B is in order (mother of all beatdowns)Living Room 2 Channel -
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When I was in Dammam, Saudi Arabia.... I made the mistake of walking into the wrong side of a Burger King. A few great big Saudi's very quickly (and efficiently) escorted me to the other side to keep the women and their families separate from me.
I apologized for my mistake and understanding that it was an honest mistake they made no hassle of it. However, it was clearly expected that I not repeat the error.
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bobman1235 wrote: »I still don't see why anyone objects to turning that entire region into a sheet of glass.
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bobman1235 wrote: »When your culture involves oppression and murder of entire races or genders, there's no reason to think you have to respect that. That's ridiculous.
Tell that to your native american citizens
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Tell that to your native american citizens I'm sure they could teach you a few things about genocide
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Tell that to your native american citizens I'm sure they could teach you a few things about genocide
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bobman1235 wrote: »When your culture involves oppression and murder of entire races or genders, there's no reason to think you have to respect that. That's ridiculous.
Well in the first place, I dont think they're as bad as what you said, otherwise Saudi arabia wouldn't be US ally. All I'm saying is that we live in a world with many different cultures, and while we may find some practices strange or downright absurd like in this case, who are we to say one culture is superior to another, ****? I don't like what they did to that poor girl, but that's part of their culture. I respect their right to resolve the case according to their own judicial procedure and religious customs just as I also respect your view on the matter.:) -
The problem with Saudi Arabia is that their culture is entirely different than our own. Not just subtly different. ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. For example: slavery was entirely legal in Saudi Arabia until 1962. That was less than 50 years ago.
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Sorry, the Hershey thread wore me out on nutjobs. If you can't, as a HUMAN BEING, see something inherently WRONG about a culture that beats up a rape victim for being a victim of rape, I feel sorry for you. There's right and wrong, whether it's someone's "culture" or not, you're allowed to have feelings about right and wrong and basic human rights.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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Well in the first place, I dont think they're as bad as what you said, otherwise Saudi arabia wouldn't be US ally. All I'm saying is that we live in a world with many different cultures, and while we may find some practices strange or downright absurd like in this case, who are we to say one culture is superior to another, ****? I don't like what they did to that poor girl, but that's part of their culture. I respect their right to resolve the case according to their own judicial procedure and religious customs just as I also respect your view on the matter.:)
I feel yuor point to an extent, a soverign nation makes its own laws etc etc. But there is a line where what is done is a REAL human rights issue that transcends "culture". that line is different for everyone (and ironically, can depend on culture), but some think (and I agree) that this is just flat out wrong, and at the least deserves to be called out as wrong publically.
In the interests of disclosure, i have been on the record here as being very vocal about how Islamic states in general treat women like cattle, and not human beings. Its odd that there are so many womans's groups here (meaning the free world..US..et al) that will scream like harpies if i use the work "chick" (or "Harpy" for that matter
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Well in the first place, I dont think they're as bad as what you said, otherwise Saudi arabia wouldn't be US ally.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out whey we are Saudi Arabia's ally.
Am I to believe that you're saying one's culture can be used to defend egregious human right's violations? In the South before civil rights, it was the "culture" of some neanderthals to lynch people that didn't look like they did. In Germany, it was part of the "culture" to summarily attempt to wipe an enitre race off the face of the planet.
I'm hoping you are just either playing devil's advocate or trying to make a point. It is beyond my comprehension that someone could be that naive or insensitive. Using one's culture as an excuse to commit heinous acts is archaic, and downright offensive.
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Oil is the only thing saving their backwards prehistoric asses! Give it time, with alternative fuel sources on the rise (too slowly though), we'll be laying the smackdown on their towelheads soon enough. Saudi Arabia...our new landfill.
I truely feel bad for the people stuck over there with no way out.
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The other thing weird about Saudi Arabia is that the older women in that culture are very strict to enforce the suppression of the young women. To me, its a classic example of the abused becoming the abuser. The women over there (from my direct and admittingly brief obeservation) pretty much perpetuate the cycle of oppression of women.
Its a very odd thing to witness. The men in that culture are pretty much like American teenage school-GIRLS. They are giddy, dance together, hold hands together, and their version of MTV shows men singing together. Very, very odd human behavior by Western standards. -
I agree. Our idea of personal space is much different than theirs. If one of my buds tried to hold my hand I'd break his fingers."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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It doesn't take a genius to figure out whey we are Saudi Arabia's ally.
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If you will read the news article more closely, she didn't get that punishment for being raped, but for being with her guy friend in the car in the first place... a big no no in their culture. While under our legal system, a judge may give a lighter sentence or not punish her at all as a show of compassion, its different over there. Maybe the US should just invade saudi arabia as well and put up its own courts there to give justice to the poor girl?
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Some of you just don't understand the passion they have for their own culture and they refuse to lose their culture to our degraded western ways.
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We're degraded? No, we're free. They still live as they're in the stone age."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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