Michael Fremer accepts Randi's Challenge
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Here is but ONE example of what goes down here, need some more ?
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Do you have anymore references to the year 2002?CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Please Justin, tell me this is not the case.The future of the forum, you're looking at it.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Polkies, just chill out a little as things always work themselves out in the end.
I understand your overwhelming frustration but Justin handles alot of duties on a daily basis, so please give him time to respond to you directly.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
Thank your for your inquiry. I will answer you questions in the order presented. If a point is not answered to your satisfaction, you are welcome to request further clarification.One must question why you underlined my post ?
The underlined emphasis, which was clearly stated by me after your quote, was to call attention to a discrepancy in a statement you made elsewhere and your actions on this forum. Underlining, bold type, italics, etc. are common emphatic devices in the written discourse of this country.It is pretty plain to me that you are trying to "make the case" that since I was banned on another forum, I should be banned here too ?
No. Not at all. It does not matter to me whether you are banned or not. Your membership here is inconsequential to my life. However, the fact that I am willing to communicate with you, rather than put your name on my "ignore" list should serve to inform you that I have no problem talking to you. I find you very entertaining.I travel to many forums, and have strong opinions. These strong opinions can cause conflict with those that do not share them.
Respectful conflict and disagreement can form the basis for enlightening discourse. My observation of you has been that you do not always conduct yourself in a respectful manner.
I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. That should be evident from my posts in this particular thread.I Googled you as well Dark knight, and you seem to only "exist" here on the Polk Forum ?
Really? I was under the impression that you were the "Google King". I am actually a member of several audio forums under the screen name "darqueknight". However, I am most active on this forum because the majority of my speakers are Polks and because of the wonderful, friendly, and very knowledgeable people here.
As evidence of my membership in other audio forums, I submit this link to a post on Audio Asylum where I discussed some problems with my Cary CD 306 SACD player: Audio Asylum-DarqueKnight's SACD Player Is Broke!
I also engaged in a similar discussion about my Cary SACD player on this forum.It is easy to hang out with like minded people with similar ideas. Like being a Democrat is pretty easy in some places. But, go to a redneck barber shop around here and talk about pulling out of Iraq, and you got problems!
Actually, I have had many disagreements with members of this forum on a wide variety of topics. Many of my prior posts will provide evidence of that. For example, there are a few members who ridiculed me for my unwavering devotion to the SDA series. Their ridicule did not make me like my speakers any less. Likewise, their disagreement regarding my choice of speakers did not make me value them any less as individuals. I stated my position and they stated theirs and we agreed to disagree.My ideas simply do not "fit" with yours, or those of your friends. Rather then simply accept me as being different from you and your friends,. you seek to eliminate me.
Wow man, you need to relax. It should be obvious that I have no problem speaking my mind. If I wanted you gone, I would say so. As I said before, it does not matter to me whether you go or stay.I know you print up the compendium, and are not used to being questioned.
I am not clear on what the first part of your sentence has to do with the second. It sounds as if you think that since I published a book on one particular speaker series, that you think that I think that I am above questioning or inquiry on that or any other matter? Unlike yourself, I have never evaded or dodged a question that anyone here has ever asked me. That is a matter of public record.Like my questioning you about replacing ALL caps in Polk speakers with expensive Film caps for instance ? In MY mind, since Polk speakers use electrolytic except on the tweeters, you are calling Matt Polk a rip off.
You sound angry and bitter. Calm down, it's just chat on an Internet forum. If, in the far reaches of your imagination, you think that I was calling Matt Polk a rip off, well...you are entitled to your opinion. I assure you that he does not share your misperception. If you go back and read my posts on the matter of SDA electrolytics, I plainly state that I was advised by a member of Polk's Engineering Staff to replace the electrolytics with polypropylene film capacitors. You are welcome to verify this with Polk.Polk speakers have long gotten great reviews WITH some electrolytic caps in the crossovers. But then along comes you and your Compendium, and suddenly YOU know better then Matt Polk and Harry Pearson what sounds good.
As I said before, my modification recommendations are in agreement with, rather than in conflict with, Polk Audio. I do not understand what Harry Pearson has to do with this.
I have no evidence that Matt Polk feels disparaged in any way by anything in either edition of the SDA Compendium. For example:
1. The cover of one of my copies of the Compendium 1st Edition is signed by Matthew Polk as follows:
"With Thanks! -Matthew S Polk"
2. The title page of one of my copies of the Compendium 2nd Edition is signed by Matthew Polk as follows:
"With great appreciation! Thank you-Matthew S Polk"
Copies of the aforementioned signature pages are attached below. As you are so fond of saying here and on other forums, "Read and Weep".
It seems that the Compendium is a point of concern or contention for you. If that is the case, just give it away, throw it away, or sell it. There will be no questions asked. Honest.So, when I DARE to question you, you try and mount a big smear campaign against me.
LOOK at the hatred in you, Googling through thousands of my old posts, just trying to discredit me. And ALL because I dared to question you.
Smear campaign huh? You sound like an angry child whose favorite toy has been stepped on...or was it your fragile pride and near non-existent self esteem that was stepped on? For your edification, smear campaigns are reserved for important individuals whose loss of reputation and status would provide some political or economic gain to an opposing party or parties. It is not clear to me what you think I have to gain by "smearing" you. I have, for entertainment purposes only, noted certain discrepancies in the public record regarding your behavior and I questioned that. It appears that you are the one who feels that he is above questioning.
If you think that you matter enough for me to "hate" you, well, you have a great fantasy life. If I felt anything for you it would be pity. I didn't even know who you were until you PM'd me asking for information on purchasing a Compendium.
With regard to my disagreements with you on technical matters, I was very thorough in my explanations. Much of what you said was in serious error, as I and others pointed out. There is no shame in being wrong. There is shame and dishonor in arrogantly holding on to a position that has been stated in obvious error.Any time we put our ideas out there, they are subject to counter ideas. That goes with the territory. Get used to it.
Actually, I am very used to it, and have no problem dealing with an opposing opinion. In instances where I am proven wrong, I am grateful for the correction because I understand that continuing in error makes one look stupid. On the other hand, you seem to be the one who resorts to insults, or running off, whenever someone disagrees with you or proves you wrong.You disagreed with me in the amplifier current thread, but I am not searching through your back posts, and freaking underlining text that was never highlighted before.
Is that's what's really bothering you? Feeling a bit embarrased? Well, the best answer to that is a direct quote from you:Any time we put our ideas out there, they are subject to counter ideas. That goes with the territory. Get used to it.
I assure you that I did not go through "thousands" of posts to find evidence of your (mis)adventures prior to finding your home here at Club Polk. It actually took less than ten minutes. An experienced "googler" like you should know that.
You seem to be of the delusional belief that I have a lot of influence on how Polk administrates their forum. I do not. I am just a guy who drops by occasionally to discuss audio and other topics. You can compare my average post count (less than one per day), with yours (over six per day) and that of your alter ego, "ABX" (over twelve per day). Since you spend proportionally way more time here than I do, I would think that you would have more pull with the "forum gods" than little ole' me, with my 0.91 posts per day.
You also seem to think that there is some grand conspiracy against you. If that is the case, and you find the people here so disagreeable, why do you cling to membership here so tenaciously? I assure you, sir, that many Club Polk members value your membership for the entertainment value it provides. However, bufoonery is only entertaining up to a point. After a certain point, it becomes annoying. I expect that when a number of members have reached that point, some complaints will be made to the forum management.
Thank you for your inquiry and the opportunity to fully explain my prior comments and research activities. As always, you are welcome to write for further inquiry, clarification, or discussion.
Good luck with everything.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
See, here you go Dorokusai.Polkies, just chill out a little as things always work themselves out in the end.
I understand your overwhelming frustration but Justin handles a lot of duties on a daily basis, so please give him time to respond to you directly.
You are basically telling everyone that i am going to get banned.
And, when it don't happen, it stirs stuff up more because you have LED people on.
This is wrong.
YOU are a moderator like Russman, supposed to be neutral.
Yet here you are leading the charge.
I have 25 abusive Pm's from Jesse, F1NUT, wanna ban him too ?
What about all the names I have been called, gonna Ban your buddies too ?
A Fish stinks from the head down.
This place has been out of control for a LONG time.
But, as long as it is people you LIKE that are out of control, all is well.
If you don't like someone, you mess with them until they blow, then use it as excuse to ban them.
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Like what ?DarqueKnight wrote: »With regard to my disagreements with you on technical matters, I was very thorough in my explanations. Much of what you said was in serious error, as I and others pointed out. There is no shame in being wrong. There is shame and dishonor in arrogantly holding on to a position that has been stated in obvious error.
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What was in "serious error" ?
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IF you are referring to the harmonics discussion, here is a graph I never got the chance to show you.
This is the spectral plot of a trumpet.
You can see the harmonics are reduced relative to the fundamental.
http://www.music.sc.edu/fs/bain/atmi02/hs/images/TptTone.GIF -
See, here you go Dorokusai.
You are basically telling everyone that i am going to get banned.
Really? Is that how you read it? I thought Dorokusai was referring to the great cable debate in this thread and having the forum management consider your suggestion to prohibit such discussions in the future. Here's a quote:Maybe Polk Forum should prohibit wire and cable discussions like Audio Asylum does on some of it's Asylum's ?
This is almost like a religion argument.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Like what ?
What was in "serious error" ?
Please, one thing at a time, ok ?
Hmmmmm....I (and others) already pointed that out in the other post(s). Therefore I see no need to rehash here. You can go back and re-read if you want. If my statements in the prior posts are not clear, you are welcome to ask specifics and I will try to clarify.IF you are referring to the harmonics discussion, here is a graph I never got the chance to show you.
This is the spectral plot of a trumpet.
You can see the harmonics are reduced relative to the fundamental.
http://www.music.sc.edu/fs/bain/atmi02/hs/images/TptTone.GIF
Wellllllllllllll...that certainly settles it. A small, grainy, partially legible spectal plot of a trumpet playing a part of a note for four-tenths of one second is absolute conclusive proof that most instruments have little harmonic content.:rolleyes: Man...just go back and read my post if it is that big of a deal to you. I even attached a peer reviewed paper on the subject.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
DarqueKnight wrote: »Really? Is that how you read it? I thought Dorokusai was referring to the great cable debate in this thread and having the forum management consider your suggestion to prohibit such discussions in the future. Here's a quote:
Let's look at Dorkusai's post, and the time it comes into this thread ?Polkies, just chill out a little as things always work themselves out in the end.
I understand your overwhelming frustration but Justin handles alot of duties on a daily basis, so please give him time to respond to you directly.
Dorkusai says POLKIES, not Ka7niq.
No other Polkies but me called for limiting cable discussions.
And no other Polkies alluded to getting Justin involved in anything but banning me.
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DarqueKnight wrote: »Hmmmmm....I (and others) already pointed that out in the other post(s). Therefore I see no need to rehash here. You can go back and re-read if you want. If my statements in the prior posts are not clear, you are welcome to ask specifics and I will try to clarify.
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When you got reinstated.ka7niq wrote:Where were serious technical errors made ?
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
DarqueKnight wrote: »I have no evidence that Matt Polk feels disparaged in any way by anything in either edition of the SDA Compendium. For example:
1. The cover of one of my copies of the Compendium 1st Edition is signed by Matthew Polk as follows:
"With Thanks! -Matthew S Polk"
2. The title page of one of my copies of the Compendium 2nd Edition is signed by Matthew Polk as follows:
"With great appreciation! Thank you-Matthew S Polk"
Copies of the aforementioned signature pages are attached below. As you are so fond of saying here and on other forums, "Read and Weep".
Ka7niq,
I forgot to mention that during Polk Fest 2003, which was held at Polk Audio's Baltimore headquarters, several forum members brought copies of their Compendiums for Matt Polk to sign, which he was glad to do. A reasonable person would take this as evidence that Mr. Polk did not find anything dishonorable or disparaging about the Compendium's contents. You may have a different opinion, and I respect your right to that. However, the misconceptions you are able to conjure up in your mind with no evidence to support them are amazing.
Warmest regards,
DKProud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
And THIS is exactly the problem here, **** like this goes down all the time.When you got reinstated.
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
You guys want to be able to tell someone off, call them names, and generally disrespect them.
BUT, heaven help you, IF they fight back and stand up, you want them banned. -
Just stating my opinion, just like you dude.......:rolleyes:~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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Where were serious technical errors made?
Now you are being lazy and a little bit trifling. All this has already been stated. I asked you to just go back an re-read the comments that I and others made. It is not like they are in a vault locked away. It looks like you just want to argue.What is fresh in your mind ?
Actually, none of this is fresh in my mind, because none of this is putting any money in my pocket or any hot snatch in my bed. Speaking of which....I gotta go. We can play some more tomorrow.
Good night.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
Matt Polks signature on a compendium does not necessarily mean a stamp of appproval.DarqueKnight wrote: »Ka7niq,
I forgot to mention that during Polk Fest 2003, which was held at Polk Audio's Baltimore headquarters, several forum members brought copies of their Compendiums for Matt Polk to sign, which he was glad to do. A reasonable person would take this as evidence that Mr. Polk did not find anything dishonorable or disparaging about the Compendium's contents. You may have a different opinion, and I respect your right to that. However, the misconceptions you are able to conjure up in your mind with no evidence to support them are amazing.
Warmest regards,
DK
Infinity places bi amp/bi wire terminals on it's speakers due to marketing pressure.
Floyd Toole does NOT believe in bi wire.
IF Matt Polk really believed electrolytic caps are "so bad", What are they doing in his speakers ?
And IF they are "so bad", why do Polk speakers get good reviews ?
Oh, but the DarqueKnight knows more then Polk Engineering.
Oh wait a minute, you have talked to Polk Engineers, right ?
Can I call them and verify this ?
What ones ?
Brad Starobin, Matt ? -
Good Night!DarqueKnight wrote: »Now you are being lazy and a little bit trifling. All this has already been stated. I asked you to just go back an re-read the comments that I and others made. It is not like they are in a vault locked away. It looks like you just want to argue.
Actually, none of this is fresh in my mind, because none of this is putting any money in my pocket or any hot snatch in my bed. Speaking of which....I gotta go. We can play some more tomorrow.
Good night.
Sorry if I got a bit upset.
Chris -
See, here you go Dorokusai.
You are basically telling everyone that i am going to get banned.
And, when it don't happen, it stirs stuff up more because you have LED people on.
This is wrong.
YOU are a moderator like Russman, supposed to be neutral.
Yet here you are leading the charge.
I have 25 abusive Pm's from Jesse, F1NUT, wanna ban him too ?
What about all the names I have been called, gonna Ban your buddies too ?
A Fish stinks from the head down.
This place has been out of control for a LONG time.
But, as long as it is people you LIKE that are out of control, all is well.
If you don't like someone, you mess with them until they blow, then use it as excuse to ban them.
Selective enforcement, plain and simple.
That's not what I was saying at all but I realize that words create selective interpretation.
Private Messages are private, always have been, always will be. They cannot and will not be moderated. You'll have to eventually utilize the ignore function if you find certain members to be disruptive to you.
I am neutral but I also have a personality, vested interest and a right to participate on my home forum. This is along the lines of your right to post as a Club Polk member.
"This place", or what I like to refer to as Club Polk is just fine. It's always been a cool refuge and I enjoy being a Polkie. If your experience is not positive, then you should seek an enviroment that involves like minded individuals.
I never banned you, or even mentioned you to be banned. You don't interest me very much and I have other things to do. The other members have a right to do what they want to do and are also moderated, just like you.
Good luck and happy listening!CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint. -
ok, i could not resist, had to come back and see what was going down....wtf....I thought this thread was about cables or wire or something. William, sorry for the thrashing, but I was just totally annoyed with the whole thing. Now I'm not saying I was in the wrong nor the right. It's cables and if they do it they do and if they don't they don't. If you feel it makes your listening more enjoyable by letting you hear the little details great, and if not then thats what it is. hey every one is entitled to what they believe, hear, see....
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I guess it is obvious you ARE here to cause trouble to me Heiny.
Liar, liar pants on fire! Pot calling the kettle black!So, it made my text appear stupid.
That's your modus operendi.It is my opinion Russman is a poor moderator.
I am entitled to my opinion.
Opinions are like ****, every one has one but they don't have to behave like one . . . hint . . . hint!He allows those he likes to verbally abuse those he don't.
He uses his moderator powers selectively and unequally.
Those he likes get away with murder, those he don't get banned.
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And Good Morning to you too .....hearingimpared wrote: »Liar, liar pants on fire! Pot calling the kettle black!
That's your modus operendi.
Opinions are like ****, every one has one but they don't have to behave like one . . . hint . . . hint!
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Looks like someone is popular with the hookers!
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And THIS is exactly the problem here, **** like this goes down all the time.
You guys want to be able to tell someone off, call them names, and generally disrespect them.
BUT, heaven help you, IF they fight back and stand up, you want them banned.
Let me refresh your memory on some of the $h*t that went down because of you.
Originally Posted by ka7niq View Post
Here is but ONE example of what goes down here, need some more ?
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As an intransitive verb. "Shirley ****."
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I know you're going to say you didn't write it, of course you didn't but I can read between the lines and I understand what your point towards me was. You look silly when you complain about other's taking shots at you, except you participate in doing the same to others. Yes, and you'll say your just defending yourself, but that's a load. Stop being a hypocrite it makes you incredibly stupid.
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