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  • steveinazsteveinaz Posts: 19,467
    That's the fun thing with TT's...a simple cartridge change can make a huge difference.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    I must have a crappy CD setup because I do not have near the $$ as that Cart you have and my setup clearly (to my ears) beats the CD.
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,867
    The cartridge game can be a scary place to play however. They are so exceptionally delicate and expensive for what you get. The differences however, are noticeable immediately and can take a good table to new heights.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,732
    edited February 2019
    I have a 45 year old turntable with a Sure M97E cart and it beats a CD.

    Low budget here.

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    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

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  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,508
    I've never once had a record beat a cd in any of my rigs......yet. I know it can be done as I've heard it done on someone else's rig. Perhaps this is the missing ingredient.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    edited February 2019
    You probably have a much higher end setup for CD's than most of us, I only have about $300 (used) in my transport (Denon 2910) but over $2500 for the vinyl with the table, cart and phono pre
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT - Parasound P6 - Parasound A21+ - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u

    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,508
    The cartridge game can be a scary place to play however. They are so exceptionally delicate and expensive for what you get. The differences however, are noticeable immediately and can take a good table to new heights.

    Agreed and being somewhat of a klutz I was a bit nervous. But the cart swap really wasn't anywhere near as bad as I had anticipated. A few simple rules; wear a short sleeve shirt, work slowly and methodically, keep the guard in place as long as you can and keep your eyes on the prize at all times.
    Once the swap was done the two things I noticed immediately was hearing more from the background than I'd ever heard before and the bass output increased as well.
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,921
    Joe: your Denon 2910 is no slouch - actually known for producing very excellent sound quality, the tray just sticks sometimes on every Denon I've ever had. Nevertheless, a properly set-up turntable with a decent cartridge should generally produce a superior sound to a CD player all other things being equal, at least in my experience. Motorstereo, I assume you properly aligned the cartridge and set the VTA, etc? What are you using for a phono preamp? Is that Clearaudio cart a low output MC or high output MC? I'm very surprised you are not getting better sound quality than a CD.
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,867
    I am going to have my table professionally dialed in now that I have all the parts in place.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, TriangleArt Reference SE with Pass Labs Xono Phono Preamp, Walker Precision Motor Drive, ClearAudio Goldfinger Diamond v2 cartridge and Origin Conquerer Mk3c tonearm, Polk Audio "Signature" Reference Series 1.2TL with complete mods, Pass Labs X0.2 three chassis preamp, PS Audio PerfectWave DAC MkII, Krell Evolution 505 SACD Player, Pioneer Elite SC-LX701, Oppo UDP-205 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds.

    I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,508
    [ Motorstereo, I assume you properly aligned the cartridge and set the VTA, etc? What are you using for a phono preamp? Is that Clearaudio cart a low output MC or high output MC? I'm very surprised you are not getting better sound quality than a CD.

    Yes the cart's aligned properly using a mirror protractor, VTA is off ever so slightly as I'm going to be using a mat soon so I didn't adjust that. I'm using the stock MC input on my Mcintosh C100 which is a decent quality Ortofon unit. I've only listened to one album side so far so it's too early for me to pass judgement on whether or not it bests a cd. I'm truly hoping it does. My digital isn't really anything fancy; a 15 year old Mac cd-dvd unit (mvp831) for a transport into a Mac dac (D100) using MIT digital into the dac and MIT shotgun XLR's into the pre. So far it's bested any vinyl I own but the gap has been narrowed significantly and I'm really hoping vinyl overtakes it for sound quality.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,539
    Doesn't the cartridge need time to break-in?
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 7,408
    Installed some XLR's on my new toy. They are cooking right now. I will wait until they are al dente until I pass judgment on them. They did give a db boost like someone said. I think someone said that.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,732
    edited February 2019
    ^^yeah you will get a DB boost. Some mistake this as a better sound.
    2 channel: Anthem 225 Integrated amp; Parasound Ztuner; TechnicsTT SL1350; Vincent PHO-8 phono pre; Marantz CD6005 spinner; Polk SDA2BTL's; LAT International speaker cables, ZU Mission IC's and power cables all into a PS Audio Dectet Power center.

    Other; S60'S, M10 series II, M7C's, Hafler XL600 amp, RB-980BX, Parasound HCA-1500 amp , P5 preamp, all in storage. All vintage Polk have had crossover rebuilds and tweeter upgrades.

    There are three things that give a man a false sense of courage, a keyboard, alcohol and a firearm.
    Motorhead, 4.12.20

    tonyb said " but even socialists can do a good thing here and there

    Social media makes dumb people dumber and smart people dumb and dumber.
  • afterburntafterburnt Posts: 7,408
    @motorhead43026 I still have the RCA's connected so I can do an easy AB
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    6db on the CXN
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    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • joecoulson wrote: »
    6db on the CXN
    That's a big bump, especially considering the CXN already is coming in significantly hotter than my analog chain.
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  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,921

    Yes the cart's aligned properly using a mirror protractor, VTA is off ever so slightly as I'm going to be using a mat soon so I didn't adjust that. I'm using the stock MC input on my Mcintosh C100 which is a decent quality Ortofon unit. I've only listened to one album side so far so it's too early for me to pass judgement on whether or not it bests a cd. I'm truly hoping it does. My digital isn't really anything fancy; a 15 year old Mac cd-dvd unit (mvp831) for a transport into a Mac dac (D100) using MIT digital into the dac and MIT shotgun XLR's into the pre. So far it's bested any vinyl I own but the gap has been narrowed significantly and I'm really hoping vinyl overtakes it for sound quality.

    Motorstereo: You have fine gear. Your cart is top notch, looks like your cart's a medium output. Not familiar with the phono stage of the McIntosh C100 other than the preamp has a great reputation. It looks like the recommended load for your cart is 300. Not sure whether you can adjust load and gain on the Mac C100, but I saw somewhere that it looked like the MC phono input on the Mac was 5 ohms. Maybe someone can chime in as to suggestions. There is no way in my humble opinion that you should not be sounding better with vinyl than CD. Also, that cart will need break-in time.
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,508
    Thanks dromunds I appreciate your comments; I've done a bit more listening and it's getting closer and I think right now I'd have to give the edge to the vinyl. There's more detail and it's a more pleasant detail to listen to if that makes any sense. It looks like the day may have finally arrived here that vinyl bests a cd. But I'm not going overboard with a quick judgement just yet as I need some long term sessions first.

    Yes the MC input is only 10 ohms on the Mac it's non adjustable and CA does recommend 300. I have a Clearaudio nano MC pre with adjustable loading that I may try at some point but for right now I'm pretty damn happy with the new sound. There's about 16 hours on the cart right now so yes it may need a bit more break in.
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    My output in my system (vinyl) is very low, I have to crank to 85 of 100 to get to the reference levels of 50 of 100 as compared to other sources. But my Cart is very low output also
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT - Parasound P6 - Parasound A21+ - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u

    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • dromundsdromunds Posts: 8,921
    Motorstereo, I would try to hit up a couple guys like SCompRacer for example about your load issue. He may have a real easy suggestion, my brain is dead right now on this Friday afternoon. Lol. I don't know anything about the Clearaudio nano but I would definitely try the adjustable loading and try it at 250 and 300 and see if that makes any difference. I rather think you should be significantly better sounding than CD's but there I again I'm not familiar with all your gear and its good stuff all around it appears. I wouldn't be surprised if you need 50-100 hours of break-in on the cart.
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,508
    ^^^^I must say I'm very pleased with the sound and having given it some thought I've decided I'm not going to try the CA Nano. Reason being it didn't best my old C33 preamp and my present C100 has easily bested the 33's mm phono input. The jury is still out on which format is better though. It's not the playback equipment imo it's the format itself. Even the very best Sheffield recordings have some background noise, dynamics are not as good as a well recorded cd nor is the separation. So records have 3 strikes against them even before I start the comparison. But I must say this new cart is an outstanding upgrade which has brought my vinyl playback to a new level here and has me really looking forward to spinning vinyl once again.
  • halohalo Posts: 5,578
    edited February 2019
    mlistens03 wrote: »
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    Today (yesterday) I found some AudioQuest cables and a Salamander on the front porch. Decided I may as well set them up... :o;)
    Received a shipment. :)

    Outstanding!!!

    I'm using Audioquest cables in my setup as well :)
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    Sweet Micah
    Wow if I only had a setup like that way back when. Any plans for a sub? And what’s next on the wishlist?
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT - Parasound P6 - Parasound A21+ - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u

    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 677
    Placed an order for some MoFi record sleeves and a Caig tube survival kit, for cleaning pins and sockets. After replacing all the power supply capacitors on my Joule preamp, I still had my left channel dropping out occasionally. After swapping tubes left-right, the problem remained in the left channel. Then I cleaned all the pins and, so far, no more dropping out. So I thought I’d better do the job more thoroughly. It’s probably time to think about replacing the rest of the capacitors.
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  • mlistens03mlistens03 Posts: 2,759
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Sweet Micah
    Wow if I only had a setup like that way back when. Any plans for a sub? And what’s next on the wishlist?

    Well, if we're talkin' 'bout a wish list... Parasound A21, ALL212's Odyssey pre, and Kef Reference towers... ;)
    More realistically, I need to get some speaker cables, and I'm pretty much done. I got two subs to choose from already, both of which are SWEET, and other than speaker cables everything is pretty much done to the best of my budget. I do have some plans in designing a set of speakers, though I don't know if they'll ever come to reality.
    But at this point, I'm really just tweaking what I already have. Perfecting, if you will. :)
    And if it wasn't for you guys here I'd still be listening to my old crappy Onkyo speakers and AVR. thanks, so very much for all the help y'all have given me. :smiley:
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,833
    No need to thank, it’s a pleasure seeing the hobby live on in the next generation
    Pass it on Señor
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    HT - Panasonic BDP/Tivo Bolt - Marantz SR5013 - Def tech C and In ceiling - Sony XBR 75"
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