Jim Salk gives Emotiva as an amp recommendation

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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited September 2013
    Kurt300 wrote: »
    It's the derogatory nature of your term "fanbois" that is the issue, to my mind. And I think it's funny, because Polk is to speakers pretty much as Emotiva is to amps, to my mind. They are both dissed by people that are purists with a lot of money to spend on "top 1 percent" equipment. But I enjoy both Polk and Emotiva as great value for the money, and am happy to be a repeat customer of both companies.

    The LSi9 and LSi15 were favorably reviewed in the April/May 2002 issue of The Absolute Sound by Anthony Cordesman, a self-described "audio snob and purist". The LSi series, and before that, the SDA series, were, and are, well respected in the audiophile press and in the audiophile community. The new LSiM series has earned rave reviews from owners and from the audiophile press. I think you may be confusing audio fools with audio purists. There are some people who would not consider any Polk product because Polk is not a strictly high end, audiophile brand, although they have and continue to make some audiophile quality speakers. Polk makes speakers at many price points and the brand exclusivity and prestige craved by some audio fools is not available for them.

    Unlike Emotiva, Polk does not try to pass off all of its product offerings as audiophile and "reference" quality.
    Loud & Clear wrote: »
    You'd have to be bored to spend your life flaming Emotiva threads on a message board. Bored, lonely, pretty much the works. Hope things look up for you!

    My observation has been that Emotiva threads are not flamed unless someone tries to misrepresent the quality and performance of Emotiva products. In the case of this thread, the original poster attempted to use a misquote to give the impression that a respected loudspeaker manufacturer considered Emotiva power amplifiers to be in the same performance category as Van Alstine and Balanced Audio Technology amplifiers.
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Holy Crap, whats this thread still doing active lol...

    Just let it die....

    Request denied. The entertainment value is too great.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    DK is always so eloquent in his responses. Me....and some others.....just like to say "'eff that". :cheesygrin:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    DSkip wrote: »
    I'm glad someone else felt the same as I did after reading his post. I've been saying "eff that" quite a bit recently.

    To DK's credit, he doesn't know how to post any other way, and that's a good thing. I always enjoy his posts even when we disagree which isn't very often.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    Personally, we should ban Emo threads, they invoke such emotional responses such as with religion, guns, politics. Can't have that now.
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  • Monster Jam
    Monster Jam Posts: 919
    edited September 2013
    Ban Bose and Monster threads too.

    Of course, then the slippery slope begins...after Emo is gone and no one can talk Emo, there will be a new kicking boy to pick on (where amps are concerned, my money is on Sherbourne or Adcom). Then we'll have to ban that too. Won't be long before we can talk only Polk and McIntosh (or Krell).
    Do you hear that buzzing noise? :confused:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited September 2013
    polrbehr wrote: »
    Man, I was really hoping your remarks were being said tongue-in-cheek...

    And John doesn't spend his whole life doing that; he did find time to build some world-class looking tube amps. :cool:

    I thought it was a joke at first as well.

    Thanks for the kind words about my amps. The circuit I used for them was recently recognized as being in the top 5% of tube amps ever built, and the pair I have are a notch above that. (at least I think so):mrgreen:
    tonyb said...
    Personally, we should ban Emo threads, they invoke such emotional responses such as with religion, guns, politics. Can't have that now.

    I think a healthy debate about O'care, attacking Syria or any number of other topics go far more peacefully than Emo discussions. For some reason Emoettes become so EMOtional in their need to defend their brand, much like those crazy kids that blow stuff up over a cartoon of Allah.

    Guess I better be careful or they might shoot me.





    Did I cover all the taboo bases? I think so, but I could be wrong.:twisted:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    Easy there big guy, I'd say you hit enough bases for about 6 months worth.:biggrin:

    BTW-you missed rodeo clowns WAAAAAA!!!!:smile:
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited September 2013
    What difference,at this point,does it make?
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited September 2013
    brgman wrote: »
    What difference,at this point,does it make?

    Well, we're having fun. Right?:razz:
    Relayer-Big-O-Poster.jpg
    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited September 2013
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Did I cover all the taboo bases? I think so, but I could be wrong.:twisted:
    God created the universe.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    edited September 2013
    Seems like it boils down to people that think Emotiva is the be all end all when they're not. But! It's a big leap above an AVR and not everyone makes 100k+ a year, like me, some people (the majority of the country) make $15 or less an hour and even saving up $1k for an amp takes a long time.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited September 2013
    Nothing is the be all end all besides its not just about the amp it's about everything in your system.
    Emotiva is tremendous value for the money no doubt about it, is there better of course there is can you afford it maybe.
    The used market has become my friend excellent deals out there just be careful about shipping or buying heavy electronics.
    I know some have had extremely bad luck with used where others have excelled and this forum is packed with a wealth of knowledge from a many experienced members here..

    Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
    Ohh, you guys are hilarious! Anyway, my Salk Sound Veracity ST's sound sooo good!! ;)

    Mike
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  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited September 2013
    I own two Emotiva products. Their XDA-1 dac/pre and a power cord. Neither were purchased for my main system but for a simple living room set up. I needed the flexibility of the XDA-1 and I like dac/pre combo units. [I use a Bel Canto in my main system.]
    Anyway both were purchased with value being my main consideration. For what I need they serve me well. I can't say I'd buy them for my main setup but I have no problem with anyone that does. I pay little attention to advertising hype it's what companies do to stay in business. All of that stuff needs to be filtered no matter what company it comes from.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited September 2013
    Nightfall wrote: »
    God created the universe.

    Yes... but who created God?:lol:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    Jhayman wrote: »
    Nothing is the be all end all besides its not just about the amp it's about everything in your system.
    Emotiva is tremendous value for the money no doubt about it, is there better of course there is can you afford it maybe.
    The used market has become my friend excellent deals out there just be careful about shipping or buying heavy electronics.
    I know some have had extremely bad luck with used where others have excelled and this forum is packed with a wealth of knowledge from a many experienced members here..
    Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees

    Excellent post, and really is all we are trying to say about Emo products. Great budget gear, but if you shop the used markets you can do better. No shame in that.

    Mike,
    If you think your Salk's sound good now, just wait bro. Sometime you'll get the itch and discover just what those speakers can do.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2013
    brgman wrote: »
    What difference,at this point,does it make?
    I see what you did there.
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Yes... but who created God?:lol:
    Man, of course.
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Mike,
    If you think your Salk's sound good now, just wait bro. Sometime you'll get the itch and discover just what those speakers can do.

    Tony-

    The Salk's sound amazing to me, and I have no plans to ever get rid of them. What are you saying Tony, I need to upgrade to Emo amps to receive the full potential? ;)

    I'd like to have another GTG or drag them somewhere when I'm home. The RAAL ribbon is something to get your ears on...
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2013
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    The RAAL ribbon is something to get your ears on...
    Only slightly edging out to Scanspeak, it's also my favorite high end tweeter. Very natural presentation, wide dispersion, great micro-detail, and very easy to work with.
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
    Yep. Don't forget that "airy" sound they portray... it is definitely very lively sounding. I can remember the first time I heard them, you couldn't wipe the smile off my face...
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited September 2013
    Face wrote: »
    I see what you did there.

    Only a few will pick up on it.:wink:
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,775
    edited September 2013
    tonyb wrote: »
    Excellent post, and really is all we are trying to say about Emo products. Great budget gear, but if you shop the used markets you can do better. No shame in that.

    Isn't that true of any brand ever made? Using that logic, any new amp purchase is a poor decision.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Isn't that true of any brand ever made? Using that logic, any new amp purchase is a poor decision.

    Not Really, if you have the coin, buying new makes sense, but if your like the other 99% of people trying to stretch those dollars, used is the way. Plus you get the ability to have in your rig higher end gear you normally could never afford, least get the wife's approval for. :biggrin:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    MikeC78 wrote: »
    Yep. Don't forget that "airy" sound they portray... it is definitely very lively sounding. I can remember the first time I heard them, you couldn't wipe the smile off my face...

    I agree, very nice tweets. Btw- your system looks sweet bro. For me however, the speaks are too small. I'm a big speaker type of guy and like what larger radiating surfaces do for the scale of the music. To each his own in this hobby.
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
    Tony-

    Thanks! It has been a work in progress for many years... The speaks are W16 Seas (6"). They do the mids just perfect for me and they have an F3 of like 32hz, which is pretty impressive. I was shocked at how low they actually go, which is mainly due to Jim's MTM transmission line design. My dual JTR Cap S1's do the rest. ;)

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited September 2013
    Mike, you don't have to tell me bro, I'm a Salk fan too. His HT3 's, loved the looks, the finishes, and the sound. Jim's a cool cat and doesn't mind answering questions, very approachable. He'll even customize his speaks for you if you ask him too. Stand up guy and company, anyone should be proud to have some Salks in their home.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    edited September 2013
    MikeC78 wrote: »
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    Very nice looking set. I have a quest to own a set of speaks with SEAS drivers. I love the sound of the Excel and Nextel drivers ......such detail and clarity.
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited September 2013
    Face wrote: »

    Man, of course.

    Good one, Mike!
    Face wrote: »
    Only slightly edging out to Scanspeak, it's also my favorite high end tweeter. Very natural presentation, wide dispersion, great micro-detail, and very easy to work with.

    It can't be the BE version your talking about? Now, can it be? You means I gotta buy a pair of RAAL too?
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  • MikeC78
    MikeC78 Posts: 2,315
    edited September 2013
    WLDock wrote: »
    Very nice looking set. I have a quest to own a set of speaks with SEAS drivers. I love the sound of the Excel and Nextel drivers ......such detail and clarity.

    Thanks WL! You're more than welcome to stop by for a demo, If you happen to be in the area. I'm located in Bloomington, IL 61704. Hopefully by then, I have some GIK panels. ;)
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