Cable Swap Program

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  • Skynut
    Skynut Posts: 2,967
    edited September 2005
    I think you just pick the ones you want to see and then post your list.
    Doro will add you to the line up, when your time comes whoever has the cables pays to send them to you.
    You play with them for a week or three and send them to the next person on the list.
    You only pay for the shipping to the next person.

    Then you post a review of what you thought of the cables.
    Simple and easy all at the same time.
    Skynut
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Cool!! I'll check out the list and get my sign-up on :D
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2005
    Noel I'm done with the Nordost Solar Winds and I don't see anyone on the list after me. If it's OK with Doro and these are ones you want to try I can send them to you. This will get you going right away. If not....then Doro where do I send these now that I'm done and no one is on the list after me?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • tryrrthg
    tryrrthg Posts: 1,896
    edited September 2005
    I'll try them if Noel doesn't want them.
    Sony KDL-40V2500 HDTV, Rotel RSX-1067 Receiver, Sony BDP-S550 Blu-ray, Slim Devices Squeezebox, Polk RTi6, CSi3 & R15, DIY sub with Atlas 15
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2005
    That's fine with me, just want to clear it for either one of you through Doro first so he know's what's going on and can keep tabs on this stuff.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited September 2005
    Sounds good to me Brock. Is that cool with everyone else??

    The main reason that I want to get involved in this is because of what happened last night. I was setting up the ASL AV20 monoblock amps I picked up from Mark at PFest and had an extremely audible hum coming thru the speaks. I tried different tube combos, checked and double checked all connections, biased the amps, etc, etc. Well I decided to start swapping ICs around and discovered that my 1.5m Copperheads were the culprit. They were outclassed by a freakin 1m pair of Radio Shack "Fusions", yes the real ones, not the gold series. Now that was a $30-35 IC besting a $100 IC. Now I would have to think that it was just my particular cabes, because my other set of Copperheads have been fine. The weird thing is that I was using those ICs, before I rearranged, with no issues. Maybe they were just not suited for tube pre to tube amp usage :confused: . Anyways, I'm going to be trying my 1m pair of Cobalt Ulimates there tonight to see how they do in that capacity. I really need to find some .5m ICs so I will have a little better cable management system.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2005
    Whatever you three want to work out is fine by me.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2005
    Noel,
    I'll send them out to you on Monday. You previously sent me an addy should I send them there?

    Tryrrthg,
    Just remind Noel that when he's done with them you are next in line. Hopefully Doro will eventually update the list.

    I'll be posting my impressions of the Solar Winds shortly.

    Have fun :)

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited September 2005
    ND13 wrote:
    Sounds good to me Brock. Is that cool with everyone else??

    The main reason that I want to get involved in this is because of what happened last night. I was setting up the ASL AV20 monoblock amps I picked up from Mark at PFest and had an extremely audible hum coming thru the speaks. I tried different tube combos, checked and double checked all connections, biased the amps, etc, etc. Well I decided to start swapping ICs around and discovered that my 1.5m Copperheads were the culprit. They were outclassed by a freakin 1m pair of Radio Shack "Fusions", yes the real ones, not the gold series. Now that was a $30-35 IC besting a $100 IC. Now I would have to think that it was just my particular cabes, because my other set of Copperheads have been fine. The weird thing is that I was using those ICs, before I rearranged, with no issues. Maybe they were just not suited for tube pre to tube amp usage :confused: . Anyways, I'm going to be trying my 1m pair of Cobalt Ulimates there tonight to see how they do in that capacity. I really need to find some .5m ICs so I will have a little better cable management system.
    i had two pairs of the copperheads that went bad and based on my bad experience that manufacturer will never get any of my hard earned dollars again! they started humming and at first i thought that my amp or preamp was starting to let go and i flipped out. when i found out it was the copperheads i was ready to kill something. i have heard too many instances of copperheads going bad to believe that mine was an isolated incident.both of my pairs went bad with solid state equipment.the copperheads are just bad news in general!
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2005
    ALL CABLE SWAPS ARE COMPLETED AND TERMINATED.

    Thanks for your participation, and effort.The cable swap program is officially shut down. If you have a current demo, please forward them to me, at my expense.

    dorokusai@comcast.net

    If you have a "donated" demo, they will be returned to you, and contact me for further information.

    dorokusai@comcast.net

    If you are simply a participant, email me for more information.

    dorokusai@comcast.net
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited October 2005
    =(


    well i haven't been able to officially write anything or do serious listening test...but ok

    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • Schris22
    Schris22 Posts: 983
    edited October 2005
    oh and why the sudden stop?

    i sent you an e-mail regarding my demos


    Chris
    Receiver: Onkyo TX-SR502-S
    DVD Player: Pioneer DV-578A-S
    Left and Right: R50
    Center: CS1
    Rear Center: R15
    Surrounds: R30
    Subwoofer: 10'' Dayton 100 Watt
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2005
    Schris22 wrote:
    =(


    well i haven't been able to officially write anything or do serious listening test...but ok

    Chris


    I will create the thread for you, as it's unfair to your demo, and you may post your thoughts therein. I cannot express enough thanks for your taking the time to perform the demo.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited October 2005
    Thanks for all the time and effort you have put into this program. It has been extremely helpful to me and A LOT OF FUN! I'm sure others feel the same. Maybe it has run it's course or whatever. It WAS worth the effort!
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2005
    I appreciate all the participation that the Cable Swap incurred, but it has come time for me to shut it down.

    It is for personal reasons that I am performing this action. I apologize for the inconvenience, but at least some of you were able to experience new things.

    ALL of the cables that were "donated" will be returned to the original owner, the rest will be returned to me, at my expense. Please contact me for further information.

    dorokusai@comcast.net

    This program WAS a success, good and bad, and I wish it could have kept going.

    Rock on Polk Forum! See you later! It's been a great ride!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2005
    Thanks for the opportunity to check out cables that I otherwise would not have had a chance to hear...

    You rock...

    Thanks to everyone who participated...reading your reveiws was almost a fun and enlightening as the demo itself...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited October 2005
    dorokusai wrote:
    No Gnus is good Gnus....some of you might get that one.

    More later....

    HAHA! Gary!!!!!
    Never Forget
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,016
    edited October 2005
    Even though I never took part in this I thought it was a great Idea.

    Thanks for making this available to all of us.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited October 2005
    Thanks for putting this together.
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • PolknPepsi
    PolknPepsi Posts: 781
    edited October 2005
    I remember when you guys first started talking about getting this program started back in Nov. Dec. of 03' and it looks like it did really well.
    Denon #2900, Denon stereo receiver, Conrad Johnson Sonographe 120 amp, Blue Jeans cables, and Klipsch RF-7's
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2005
    Guys! I see no reason this program can't continue on a lesser scale. Mark obviously put much time and effort into this. Membership has grown and so has the list of cable to demo. It had to get overwhelming and I even would venture to say that Mark may even be out some money by the time all cables reach their original source. I would even bet that there were some "Hey, where are my cables?" type of emails. He did an awesome job and gave members an opportunity that can't be denied.

    Maybe if you want to demo, or offer a cable for demo, it could be handled without the mediator.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited October 2005
    I'm game. I have one or two cables I could lend to the program. They aren't thousand dollar cables, but they're not Wal-Mart cables, either.

    We would have to have some sort of central figure to keep things from becoming a cluster fu^k.
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited October 2005
    I can't be that central figure and wouldn't wish it upon anybody.

    I suggest that if anybody has cables to offer, they put it in their sig. Other members could contact them and that person could decide accordingly. It could be handled via PM/email between the individuals. Reviews could still be posted and such. If anything goes awry it would be between those 2 people.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • ND13
    ND13 Posts: 7,601
    edited October 2005
    ....
    "SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE,
    CAUSE I SPEAK OF THE POMPITIOUS OF LOVE"
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited October 2005
    edit
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • W WALDECKER
    W WALDECKER Posts: 900
    edited October 2005
    Willow wrote:
    Even though I never took part in this I thought it was a great Idea.

    Thanks for making this available to all of us.
    same here!
    Rogue Audio stereo 100 tube amplifier - Lector Zoe preamplifier with 6H30 pi's
    .Audience AU24SE speaker and ic cables- Chord Qutest DAC - Black Cat Silverstar II 75ohm digital cable-Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature system with large bass cabinets to accommodate 10" Seas magnesium woofers.2xhmpsuownoj.jpg
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited October 2005
    TroyD wrote:
    edit


    knew that link wasnt going to last long ..... LOL
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited October 2005
    ohskigod wrote:
    knew that link wasnt going to last long ..... LOL

    It wasn't intended to cause controversy.....eh, whatever.

    Carry on.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited October 2005
    edit, pm instead move along, nothing to see here people :p
    Living Room 2 Channel -
    Schiit SYS Passive Pre. Jolida CD player. Songbird streamer. California Audio Labs Sigma II DAC, DIY 300as1/a1 Ice modules Class D amp. LSi15 with MM842 woofer upgrade, Nordost Blue Heaven and Unity interconnects.

    Upstairs 2 Channel Rig -
    Prometheus Ref. TVC passive pre, SAE A-205 Amp, Wiim pro streamer and Topping E50 DAC, California Audio Labs DX1 CD player, Von Schweikert VR3.5 speakers.

    Studio Rig - Scarlett 18i20(Gen3) DAW, Mac Mini, Aiyma A07 Max (BridgedX2), Totem Mites
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited October 2005
    whadd I miss..?
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)

    :cool:
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