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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    That would be one LARGE tweeter and small port. :D
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Have we determined it's a midrange? It's a small pic and I see it as possibly a port under the tweeter.

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    In this case, I would hope that you'd be wrong :D
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,349
    edited July 2010
    I just want to know when the pre order is and do Polk members get a discount with there pre order:)
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I just want to know when the pre order is and do Polk members get a discount with there pre order:)
    Some people simply know what they want :D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2010
    Face wrote: »
    That would be one LARGE tweeter and small port. :D

    Ya, you're right. My monitor at home is better than the one at work and it's apparent when I look at it again, you're right.
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited July 2010
    TECHNOKID wrote: »
    Yep, midrange is most always an asset to the SQ when the engineering is properly done. I'm getting quite excited now I hope we can see some specs soon. I hope the new Lsi is self sufficient (meaning not requiring any external sub. I'm OK with external sub for HT purpose but I prefer a full range speaker for 2 channels).

    Agreed; if this ends up being a 3 way bookshelf and the driver integration is done well enough, this could definitely be a winner. I love my LSi's, but a 2 way is inherently limiting, especially at higher volumes; the best speakers I've heard have been at least 2.5 way.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited July 2010
    Zitro wrote: »
    .... if this ends up being a 3 way bookshelf and the driver integration is done well enough, this could definitely be a winner. I love my LSi's, but a 2 way is inherently limiting..
    Agreed a properly engineered 3 way does offer many potential advantages.Having the midrange produced by a dedicated driver relieved of bass reproduction duties usually results in greater clarity and less distortion in the all important midband.From the pic it looks like the mid -tweet spacing is very tight so they should be acting more or less like a point source than two separate drivers.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,349
    edited July 2010
    All I will say is if the bookshelf looks that sexy in a not so clear picture, Just makes one wonder what the towers will look like.. I just might be glad I never pulled the trigger on the 15's.
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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited July 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    All I will say is if the bookshelf looks that sexy in a not so clear picture, Just makes one wonder what the towers will look like.. I just might be glad I never pulled the trigger on the 15's.

    These will definitely get an audition from me; if the towers best the B&W 684's I was planning to get in a year and they are similar in price, then I'll stick with Polk.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited July 2010
    I can't wait to see how these pan out!! Going by that picture, they're looking great. I love the dedicated midrange.

    I could do without the RTi'esque silver trim around the drivers though. It makes them look too much like the next RTi, rather than the next LSi. Aesthetically, I love the look of the current LSi's...and IMO the new ones should reflect more on that.

    But, I don't design loudspeakers for a living...so do what ya gotta do.;)

    I'm especially looking forward to all you guys that will be unloading your old LSi's when the new ones come out. I'll be in the market for some new speakers right around that time too...:cool:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,804
    edited July 2010
    I don't like the looks, sorry.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited July 2010
    Looks like B&W
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited July 2010
    Okay. My two cents. The sound is important, but unless it is truly high-end, the looks are also important. The silver around the speakers is tacky. Like to much chrome on a car. It says "low end", which is not the correct impression. Lose the chrome, make the sound better than the current LSi, and keep the price the same, or very close. Then you have my LSi15 replacement for my front HT speakers.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited July 2010
    I gotta admit the looks let me down but did not surprise me. They look like nice RT speakers.

    Oh well. Ill keep an open mind for when a pic of a non-prototype surfaces.
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited July 2010
    i'm glad their finally updating the line and can't wait to give them a listen :)
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  • kab
    kab Posts: 275
    edited July 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    ...The silver around the speakers is tacky...

    When I said prototype, I meant it. It is a sonic model meant to be used to dial in the performance. Shape and size and component count are accurate but don't put much stock in the rest of what you see. Hint: There is no silver.

    By the way, I've heard the bookshelf. There is still work to be done but it's very exciting and images like mad.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,473
    edited July 2010
    kab wrote: »
    When I said prototype, I meant it. It is a sonic model meant to be used to dial in the performance. Shape and size and component count are accurate but don't put much stock in the rest of what you see. Hint: There is no silver.

    By the way, I've heard the bookshelf. There is still work to be done but it's very exciting and images like mad.


    Glad to hear there is no silver, but when you say they image like mad... are we talking "SDA-type" mad or is that still a pipe dream?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2010
    kab wrote: »
    images like mad.

    That's what I like to hear!

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  • kab
    kab Posts: 275
    edited July 2010
    It is not an SDA speaker. Whether it is a pipe dream or not is another issue.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,473
    edited July 2010
    I don't expect an SDA kab, but imaging is where it's at for me, and if they can approach that level without that technology, I will be all over them.

    I cannot wait to hear them.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited July 2010
    I am waiting to see the final product before passing judgement on the "looks".

    If it is an improvement over the current LSi line in terms of sound...that is the key issue to me.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited July 2010
    I'm sure it images more accurately than a SDA... ;) (puts on flame suit)
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,093
    edited July 2010
    shack wrote: »
    I am waiting to see the final product before passing judgement on the "looks".

    If it is an improvement over the current LSi line in terms of sound...that is the key issue to me.

    +1 here to. It's way to early to pass judgement.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Glad to hear there is no silver, but when you say they image like mad... are we talking "SDA-type" mad or is that still a pipe dream?

    Believe it or not in near field listening sessions (about 3.5 feet away) on my office rig with modded 5B's (Solen on the low pass, Clarity Cap on the high pass, Mills, fuse delete) w/RD0194-1's using an outboard DAC and a 15wpc all tube integrated, I call them them my baby SDA's.

    They are slightly toed in and my desk sits smack in the middle of them. I swear with my eyes closed they have many of the same imaging characteristics of my 1C's. Nothing way out to the sides or behind me, but a HUGE and WIDE soundstage with a solid center image and decent front to back staging. So many times I'm grinning from ear to ear at how stunning classic Monitor series can sound...........simply defies logic someimes.

    My point is, the new LSi's could be SDA like in their imaging properties. Full blown SDA's..............not likely; but they could have a little bit of the magic, it is possible.

    H9
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,473
    edited July 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I'm sure it images more accurately than a SDA... ;) (puts on flame suit)

    I would drop my SDA's like a bad habit if they do, and my wife would pay for them just to have the 2.3TL's out of her living room.:D

    KAB.... any chance at a teaser shot of the new towers?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited July 2010
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I'm sure it images more accurately than a SDA... ;) (puts on flame suit)

    Actually SDA's image more realistically (accurately) compared to "real sound cues" than many, many speakers. Stereo is not real it's contrived; as in there is no such thing in everyday life that is stereo. :cool:

    Anyways, I don't want to take this off topic so that's all I'm going to say.

    H9
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,798
    edited July 2010
    Will the new LSi series be sold in stores? If so.. Magnolia?
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited July 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I don't like the looks, sorry.

    Agreed.

    Even as a Prototype, it didnt scream LSi sexy, to me anyway.

    Still excited.

    Standing by.

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited July 2010
    kab wrote: »
    When I said prototype, I meant it. It is a sonic model meant to be used to dial in the performance. Shape and size and component count are accurate but don't put much stock in the rest of what you see. Hint: There is no silver.

    By the way, I've heard the bookshelf. There is still work to be done but it's very exciting and images like mad.

    Glad to hear Al as I was impressed by the driver compliment and what looks like a port, I was a little put off with the black sides as I found the original LSi's wood look to be beautiful.
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  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,210
    edited July 2010
    Pauly wrote: »
    Agreed.

    Even as a Prototype, it didnt scream LSi sexy, to me anyway.

    Still excited.

    Standing by.

    Pauly

    I thought the same. It looks good, but still prefer the LSi look.
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