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hearingimpared wrote: »...The only one I know of, which is a 2 1/2 hour drive for me (and I frequently visit it or use to when I had the moola), that carries Polk speakers with a variety of mid-fi and high end gear, tubed & sand, TT & CDPs etc. is Quest for Sound in Bensalem, PA.
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You know, I grew up in Bensalem--I should stop back for a visit and check out Quest for Sound while I'm at it.____________________
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Your post does describe this trend quite well and we must unfortunately live with it. As far as brick and mortar stores they only exist to sell not really to guide the buyer.
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I recall the Tweeter in Wilmington closed as well--Actually I thought they all did.
Joe, do you know where the Circuit City was near Concord Mall/202? It's a 6th Ave Electronics now and they have Polks (I'm pretty sure the LSi line too) and listening rooms. Not sure if that's what you're looking for but its something. Or is that the store you were thinking of?
How I missed that store is beyond me. I'm always swiveling my head when I drive up 202 looking for audio stores. The stores I was referring to on 202 are; Overture (high, high end store with the exception of Rotel), and HiFi House.You know, I grew up in Bensalem--I should stop back for a visit and check out Quest for Sound while I'm at it.
Definitely! Stephen Monte is the owner and he is an awesome guy, and extremely knoweldgable guy. If you are going to head up there, let me know ahead of time, I'll give Steve a call and introduce you.
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Exactly what I am talking about as I mentioned audio boutiques are pretty rare nowadays. Also to consider the few audio boutiques in my area don't even sell Polk audio as they are (or used to) sold in big store (large chain store).hearingimpared wrote: »I beg to differ, unless you are talking about large chain stores.DARE TO SOAR:
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hearingimpared wrote: »I don't see how the "new trend" can replace being able to sit down and listen to Polk speakers on a variety of gear and fronts ends in an intimate listening room that brick & mortar stores provided. !
So true! Believe it or not, I had never even heard of Polk Audio until fall 2007. I read some pretty good reviews of the Rti series (this is just when RtiAs were coming on the scene) on Amazon and wanted to get a sense of what they were about. So, fortunately there are two Crutchfield retail stores that carry a vast array of Polk's current line-up within driving distance of my parents house in VA. Thus I travelled to both while I was home for a visit over X-mas break. Went in to the store fully intending to pick up the Rti's after a demo -- but the sales person made a point of introducing the Lsi line to me, and I was just flat out blown away. They had them set up properly and that was it, right then and there. Far exceeded my budget at the time, so I had to wait awhile until I could afford them but there was no going back once I had that in-store experience.
Back to topic...I'm not much into novelty items (i.e. t-shirt) but I think some of the other's suggestions about special in-foam inserts/packaging and a cloth bag for protection purposes would be a great idea. Some us are not homeowners...so even if we never sell them, we have to pack them up and move them to other apartments (did this myself last summer and will most likely do so again in a year or so) and holding on to those sorts of things could make moving less of a risky proposition.2 Ch.
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If they're going to have cloth grilles, I'd love to have a glove or tool that can remove animal hair and other debris from them.
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+1 on quality re-usable packaging.
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I like the idea of a high quality demo CD or DVD. The stores seem to get nice demo discs and I always find myself wanting to take one of them home.
While packaging makes a nice but brief first impression, what really makes the lasting impression is how they sound right out of the packaging.____________________________________________________________
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Here's something small that I think will add a lot to the presentation of the speaker: use magnetic grill mounts (or some other type) so the mounting holes aren't exposed during grill-off listening. I think any high end speaker should have this; even low-end Klipsch do. The current LSi line has a lot of screws/holes exposed on the front baffle, and I think cleaning that up will look more high-end.- Jeremy
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I know this is maybe a long shot, but it would be nice to have some kind of exchange/trade up program of the current LSi lines to the new line up. For me, the ability to unload my set at reasonably below market would be an incentive to replace them in one go. And in turn, Polk would be able to refurb them (perhaps?) and offer them for sale throgh its direct market channel.
Btw, I can't wait to see which proto LSi made it to the production line from those focus group that some of us participated in a couple years ago, if at all.I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie. -
+1! I fully agree with magnet to hold grills in place, much better than cheap plastic retainers used nowadays (looks so china manufacturingHere's something small that I think will add a lot to the presentation of the speaker: use magnetic grill mounts (or some other type) so the mounting holes aren't exposed during grill-off listening. I think any high end speaker should have this; even low-end Klipsch do. The current LSi line has a lot of screws/holes exposed on the front baffle, and I think cleaning that up will look more high-end.
). Any small things to the product to make it look of better quality is much better marketting than any little nick nacks added for promo DARE TO SOAR:
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Trade up programs heavily cut into profits. Companies like McIntosh only have trade in programs when things are slow. Although it would be nice, I don't believe we'll be seeing one from Polk."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Trade up programs heavily cut into profits. Companies like McIntosh only have trade in programs when things are slow. Although it would be nice, I don't believe we'll be seeing one from Polk.
Mike, I was thisclose to using the tradeup for some 1.2k's. Instead, I needed a huge amount of dental work that insurance wouldn't cover.:mad:
Didn't Polk have a tradeup system in place during the 80's? I think it could work if done fairly. McIntosh gave what, 75%? Think of all the old LSI that would trickle down to folks that can't afford the entry price right now. They have to think long term. I haven't had Polk's in the house for 10 years but I am coming back.
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I can't see a trade up program to be valuable for Polk mostly a nightmare. The trade would have to be much lower than market value not counting that Polk has a reputation and would therefore need to assign technicians for testing and refurbing as necessary along with making a small profit. Not counting some trade that might not even be re-saleable.Mike, I was thisclose to using the tradeup for some 1.2k's. Instead, I needed a huge amount of dental work that insurance wouldn't cover.:mad:
Didn't Polk have a tradeup system in place during the 80's? I think it could work if done fairly. McIntosh gave what, 75%? Think of all the old LSI that would trickle down to folks that can't afford the entry price right now. They have to think long term. I haven't had Polk's in the house for 10 years but I am coming back.
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I can't see a trade up program to be valuable for Polk mostly a nightmare. The trade would have to be much lower than market value not counting that Polk has a reputation and would therefore need to assign technicians for testing and refurbing as necessary along with making a small profit. Not counting some trade that might not even be re-saleable.
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OK, let's try that way.hearingimpared wrote: »TK reread your post and tell me what is wrong with it! It's glaring.;)
I can't see a trade up program to be of any value to Polk as it would be a nightmare. See the reasons below:
1. The trade would have to be much lower than market value (client would benefit more of a private sale)
2. Polk has a reputation to keep and would therefore need to assign technicians for testing and refurbing the used speakers as necessary in order to ensure their high standard of quality are still kept with the used speakers when compared to new stock.
3. Polk would still need to be making a small profit in order for the trade to be valuable to the company (which may increased the cost of the use due to part replacement along with time spent).
4. Another important issue is part of the speakers involved in the trade may simply NOT meet Polk's standard and NOT be re-saleable thus generating a lost for Polk.
5. Overall, a trade program would simply involve time and money from Polk which would be best spent toward the new purchase.
Wathever Polk gives us, their is a cost somewhere down the line as the company needs to make money. Manufacturing new product and selling refurb products are 2 different ventures.
I hope this better explain how I visualise the complexity of a trade program?
Cheers!
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Other, no-audio, companies have trade in programs. I wonder how well they work?
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As I pointed out, there is a cost to such and eventually has to be passed on to buyers somewhere down the line. I'm all for such as it means recycling instead of throwing away but fact is we are in a throw away technology and going the other way around is simply going against the grain and might simply be harmfull to a business (unless they have such a commitment to recycling and can put up a serious trade in program that they can benefit from).Other, no-audio, companies have trade in programs. I wonder how well they work?
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Who would you think pays the tab for those donations?These telescopes are then sold by us or donated to schools in need as Certified Pre-owned telescopes. Here are the details of our trade in program.DARE TO SOAR:
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CP Flea Market, Audiogon and eBay.......the trade up programs.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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hearingimpared wrote: »TK reread your post and tell me what is wrong with it! It's glaring.;)OK, let's try that way.
I can't see a trade up program to be of any value to Polk as it would be a nightmare. See the reasons below:
I hope this better explain how I visualise the complexity of a trade program?
Cheers!
TK
Geez I was in a tongue in cheek mode and didn't need a business lesson!:rolleyes::D. . . would therefore need to assign technicians for testing and refurbing the used speakers as necessary in order to ensure their high standard of quality are still kept with the used speakers when compared to new stock.
This is what I was referring to. Polk already has that in place with their ebay store. Now if you mean they would have to employ many more for the proposed traded in program then yes I agree with you. However, they could do it if it just applied to upgraded versions like the LSi's I guess. -
Who would you think pays the tab for those donations?
Here in America that would be the IRS because the donations could be written off. -
CP Flea Market, Audiogon and eBay.......the trade up programs.
LOL! The man with the plan . . . and the answers. Don't forget Craigslist. -
I don't picture Jesse having the patience for Craigslist, do you?
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I tried it once. Guy had some CRS+'s he was selling, suppose to be near mint. Drove up to see them, total junk. I told him good luck in that FU sort of way and left. I've got better things to do with my time than look at other folks junk.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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I don't picture Jesse having the patience for Craigslist, do you?I tried it once. Guy had some CRS+'s he was selling, suppose to be near mint. Drove up to see them, total junk. I told him good luck in that FU sort of way and left. I've got better things to do with my time than look at other folks junk.
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hearingimpared wrote: »I don't see how the "new trend" can replace being able to sit down and listen to Polk speakers on a variety of gear and fronts ends in an intimate listening room that brick & mortar stores provided. There are a couple that are 20 minutes away from me but they have their noses stuck to the ceiling and don't carry Polk products. The only one I know of, which is a 2 1/2 hour drive for me (and I frequently visit it or use to when I had the moola), that carries Polk speakers with a variety of mid-fi and high end gear, tubed & sand, TT & CDPs etc. is Quest for Sound in Bensalem, PA.
The Tweeter in Wilmington DE is still open but I would't go there to listen to anything as the sales people there don't know **** from shinola and in my experience do more damage to the Polk name because they don't have the ability to setup the speakers properly and match it with the right gear not to mention they have no listening rooms.
So how does Polk enable their prospective customers to listen to Polk speakers when the "new trend" of internet sales is about the only place to get them? From where I sit, the reason Polk has a store on ebay and have so many refurbs or open box items is because of this "new trend" where you have to buy the speakers and set them up in your home in order to audition them with no help from experience sales personel to guide them in the setup? If the buyer is inexperienced, which most mass marketed product buyer are, chances are they're going to screw up the setup or try to mate them with inferior gear thus producing a crappy audition and right back to Polk or the internet store they go!
Got to agree with Joe here...the very first place I heard a pair of LSI-15s was at a Tweeter....and they ran them off a Pioneer Elite AVR with a Cambridge Audio CD-player...not their best but middle line player.
Then they turned around and ran and 8 ohm speaker next to the LSIs...if I hadn't been a member here I would have written the LSIs off but I knew they weren't supposed to sound 'like that'!
Enough said....LSIs sounds a lot better when they're fed real 4 ohm power...at the very least.
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That's right. At long last, we are within spittin' distance of introducing new LSi models (not that I am eager to replace my LSi 9s).
We have been meeting about the packaging and more specifically about the contents.
For most, the LSi is a serious spend. An investment. A commitment to audio. If you were to purchase a pair of the new LSi bookshelves or towers, what would delight you when you opened the carton? Or to put it another way, what would blow you away? What would have you telling your friends?
Is it a leather case with a letter, manual, subscriptions, a cd and assorted swag? Is it a coffee table book about your speaker and Polk's history? Is it a t-shirt? Is it ...fill in the blank?
I want to hear your ideas. (sorry but cash or sex is not the right answer)
Apart from Sex and Cash, I want to see the new 3D LCD TVs with every New LSi purchase.
Seriously, how about sending some leather case with some polk history booklets and some nice Polk pins to the LSi owners who bought them already?Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin: -
Seriously, how about sending some leather case with some polk history booklets and some nice Polk pins to the LSi owners who bought them already?
But you are kidding, right? I mean, should I expect all companies I've purchased products from to just keep shipping me nice little extras 'cause they love me? I bought my LSis on Craigslist... should I expect the original owner to send me this stuff once he gets it from Polk? Don't be ridiculous. -
mdaudioguy wrote: »But you are kidding, right? I mean, should I expect all companies I've purchased products from to just keep shipping me nice little extras 'cause they love me? I bought my LSis on Craigslist... should I expect the original owner to send me this stuff once he gets it from Polk? Don't be ridiculous.
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ideas for NEW purchases.........that shouldn't need to be spelled out.comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
