Looking forward to L800 but have concerns, what are your thoughts?

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  • Posts: 4,544
    23 foot high ceilings is pretty impressive. I'd get a remote controlled helicopter and fly it around.

    :)

    The 17' by 19' is ideal for L800s in my opinion as long as the sweet spot can be set where you want it to be in the space.
  • Posts: 26,044
    Emlyn Posts: 3,320
    1:05PM
    23 foot high ceilings is pretty impressive. I'd get a remote controlled helicopter and fly it around.

    I'd turn on the ceiling fans and see how good you are at turbulence :D:D:D
  • Posts: 507
    Can't wait to blast it, will need to figure out acoustics. I had acoustic treatments in my old house which was a 15x25 room but only low traditional 7' Northeast ceilings.
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  • Posts: 507
    edited February 2022
    Pics of progress still trying to figure things out but it’s now making sounds after 2 months boxes. Took wide angle shots to show the setup area vs space relative to the speakers. Wife and daughter now say they’re small speakers… implying I need bigger ones to fill the space.

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    • Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
    • Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Sony UBP-X800 | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
    • Daughter's Gaming Rig-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | Martin Logan Forte
    • Orphans DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Sansui FR-1080 | Fire TV
    • Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
  • Posts: 2,321
    Clearly grande utopia evos are the appropriate sized speaker for that space ;)
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    Hi I bet those things are gonna sound great. Jealous of that MAC gear too
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

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  • Posts: 25,565
    I do not envy your task of creating a decent soundstage in that environment. BEAUTIFUL house however...
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  • Posts: 29,003
    Agree grande utopia evo
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Posts: 5,689
    I do not envy your task of creating a decent soundstage in that environment. BEAUTIFUL house however...

    I was thinking the same thing. Maybe set up in front of the picture windows. Move the piano over to where the Mac's are and maybe not use one L800 and one L600...
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  • Posts: 4,544
    I was thinking the space was rectangular. That space is going to be tough to get SDA to work optimally in. Shifting the speakers over to the left some and having them closer together may help. Of course the only person who can tell for sure where they work best in the house is the owner.

    :)
  • Posts: 4,544
    Looking good! Mine are in a similar spacing configuration between speakers and to the sweet spot.
  • Posts: 8
    edited December 2022
    Hey guys. I have been interested in the L800 for quite some time now. I have a few questions in hopes some of you can bless me with your experience/knowledge with these big boys. 1st, would the L800's sound good in a 12X12 sized room? We currently have a Pioneer Elite LX904 running a 5.4.2 set up with the Signature Series. I know I know....Small space yes....however the SDA tech is absolutely intriguing to me as I love to enjoy 2 channel music when winding down at the end of the day, and the room in question, is all we have at this point for our dedicated media space. Our listening habits are 50/50 for music and movies. Any advice/opinions would greatly appreciated. Also, even though the space is small, I would LOVE to have an external amp to ease up the load on the AVR. We don't play anything at a super loud level by any means, however, on some nights, after a few glasses of wine, the wife and I do get the urge to to crank the music up a bit. (Gotta love the W.A.F) :) I've read so many forums on what amps play nice with the L800's, also read a bunch on what amps do not. Parasound has been mentioned more than any other brands that work well and sound great with the L800's. Any thoughts on what amp would pair wonderfully with the L800's? (Emotiva, Anthem, Parasound ect.) Thank you kindly in advance for any advise on this.
  • Posts: 10,051
    You realize a bunch of the Reserve and Legend series are 40-50% off sale prices to forum members until Monday? Jus saying.
  • Posts: 10,051
    Look at Clubhouse thread
  • Posts: 4,544
    I'd look at a Parasound A21+ for good amplification to match up with the L800s. The L800s deserve a high current capable amp because of their driver configuration and relatively low efficiency rating. They really do need a larger space to play in too. A 14 foot or longer front wall is ideal if the speakers would be 6 feet apart. They can be forced to work in a 12 foot space with sound absorbing panels on the side walls.
  • @Emlyn Thank you for the suggestion with the A21+. I will definitely look into that. Also, the L's would sit appox 8 1/2 feet apart. Not sure that would leave ideal spacing between the speakers and the side walls, however, I do have some sound treatment on the side walls. I would also have them sitting about 2 feet or so from the from the front wall.
  • @dromunds Is there a particular link to I have go to for that 40-50% off sale? I didn't see anything when I looked on the website.
  • Posts: 8,121
    PolkFam wrote: »
    @dromunds Is there a particular link to I have go to for that 40-50% off sale? I didn't see anything when I looked on the website.

    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/197660/50-year-anniversary-sale-up-to-50-off-only-for-polk-forum-members#latest
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  • Posts: 1,500
    Emlyn wrote: »
    I'd look at a Parasound A21+ for good amplification to match up with the L800s. The L800s deserve a high current capable amp because of their driver configuration and relatively low efficiency rating. They really do need a larger space to play in too. A 14 foot or longer front wall is ideal if the speakers would be 6 feet apart. They can be forced to work in a 12 foot space with sound absorbing panels on the side walls.

    Solid advice. And will add I'm a Parasound fan. Currently own 2 vintage HCA-1500A's that I had recapped. I recently gifted my son a pair of vintage SDA's (3.1tl) and, as we've worked through his upcoming setup, wholeheartedly recommended Parasound's current offerings. Emlyn is spot on w/his 800 pairing and room considerations. Good luck.
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  • Posts: 54
    edited February 2023
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  • Posts: 507
    edited May 2024
    These are one of the best speakers I've owned for music. It's a fun party speaker for sure. It's also second oldest setup I've run without any major changes. I've been tweaking my HT since it's a dedicated room. I wanted to bring some of that to my living room setup. I have run REW and more recently ARC, both indicate a bit of an issue in the bass region. I've tried different amps but keep coming back to McIntosh, it has the oomph I can feel confident in and clarity I haven't heard with the few other brands I've tried. Anthem with ARC seems veiled and empty. Has anyone run other room correction? I 'm not looking to boost the dips which I think are room modes above 100Hz and the crossover around 340hz but trim the peaks at what looks like 40 and 70 hz.

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    • Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
    • Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Sony UBP-X800 | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
    • Daughter's Gaming Rig-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | Martin Logan Forte
    • Orphans DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
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  • Posts: 10,450
    What are the two different graphs from?
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  • Posts: 29,003
    bass performance is largely room dependent. You are best served to play with placement and room treatments/bass traps or introduce additional subwoofers (recommended amount is 16 currently)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Posts: 507
    edited May 2024
    One is left the other is right. REW is just as bad.

    L800 Right
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    L800 vs LSiM 707 L+R
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    • Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
    • Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Sony UBP-X800 | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
    • Daughter's Gaming Rig-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | Martin Logan Forte
    • Orphans DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Sansui FR-1080 | Fire TV
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  • Posts: 29,003
    Secondary note - I firmly believe the bass performance the Grandes bring to the table is because the speakers essentially put a subwoofer in 4 corners of the room (upper right/left and lower right/left). What the Grandes can do bass wise over a broad range is nothing short of astounding. Sometimes with bass you just have to introduce more drivers in different locations to level things out. I still have a null here and there but otherwise their bass is very even across most of the frequencies.

    I also am a firm believer that you need to be like +10db at 20hz and -6db at 20khz in room response. Flat response is for the birds! :-P

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  • Posts: 507
    edited May 2024
    There's something wrong with my L800 waterfall, I think it's my DAC. It's OK for music but not realtime like using it as speaker for video, there"s audio lag. I used my laptop with USB connection to the DAC for REW.
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    This is the LSiM 707s, L+R no subs.
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    LSiM 707 indvidual L and R with sub, and 706c no sub.
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    • Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
    • Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
    • Game Room-5.1 Polk LSi25, LSiC, LSiF/X | Marantz SR7009 | AppleTV 4K | Sony UBP-X800 | Xbox One S | Sony PS2, PS3 | Nintendo Wii | Gaming PC | Sony 75" LCD
    • Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
    • Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
    • Daughter's Gaming Rig-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | Martin Logan Forte
    • Orphans DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
    • Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
    • Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
    • Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Sansui FR-1080 | Fire TV
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  • Posts: 51,066
    edited May 2024
    I've never listened to a graph in an effort to determine what a rig sounds like.
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  • Posts: 29,003
    Have you tried running your stuff with the sda disconnected and then plugging it back in afterwards
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.

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