Looking forward to L800 but have concerns, what are your thoughts?
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They do not need a common ground amp. However, differential balanced amps cannot be used.Political Correctness'.........defined
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According to Stereophile's measurements, the Cambridge was near text book in that it doubled it's output into 4ohms and again an impressive 430watts into 2 ohms. Current limiting doesn't appear to be it's biggest shortcoming. https://www.stereophile.com/content/cambridge-audio-edge-integrated-amplifier
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The Cambridge Edge A was never the issue.
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Lol ,it's a tough old horse.
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It took around 300hrs but the L800's are now really sounding effortless!
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It’s not M10 but close 😎mmm, either a threaded tube bush to 1/4. 20. Or a mission for a friend 😛.
Polk typically used 1/4-20 threads, but I think some of the newer stuff is 6mm.
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I'm not following you.Political Correctness'.........defined
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GAIA 2’s. Does any one know the thread size needed on the L800.looks like M10 ,Isoacoustic should supply these.You might shoot Musicdirect an email as they sell both. They're pretty good at answering Q's.Either 1/4-20 or 6mm. Best send an email to Polk to be sure.pull yours off and use a thread gauge to be sure. I'm thinking they would be something like 1/4" x 20 tpiHe bought/guessed the wrong thread.➀Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) ➁Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, DirectStream ➂Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" ➃Power Conditioner: PS Audio P15 Power Plant ➄Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends ➅Streaming: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC, TP-Link WAP, & Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark, Emperor Double Crown Clock, Black Modernize LPS, PS Audio AirLens⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
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Sorry F1. Isoacoustics only supply 4 different sizes with their Gaia's so i am considering buying some 3/8 (Size of speaker thread) and drilling and rethreading the centre out to take one of the other smaller sizes.
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Sorry F1. Isoacoustics only supply 4 different sizes with their Gaia's so i am considering buying some 3/8 (Size of speaker thread) and drilling and rethreading the centre out to take one of the other smaller sizes.
Something like this?
https://www.ezlok.com/e-z-lok-solid-wall-threaded-inserts-for-metal
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I tried ordering the correct thread with my first SDA SRS set but had to actually have m10 to m6 made !..reps here just give you the sets they have in supply which carry m10 m8 m6 and 1/4 20 .
I have just banged out an email directly to Isoacoustics for the 3/8 being L800's to isoacoust GAIA 1,s being M 10.
Lets seee if they can come up with the goods. : )
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He bought/guessed the wrong thread.
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Contact isoacoustic, they have other thread sizes not supplied with the gaias.Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
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Sadly,Isoacoustic only responded to which ones to buy and ignored the three emails regarding purchasing the necessary thread for the L800 being 3/8.
Shame as i was actually going to buy a third set as they have a purchase now (until 30th april) here down under and get $200 back for each set purchased.
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What do you need, a 3/8" threaded rod and tap?Political Correctness'.........defined
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All sorted this side thanks F1, getting a local fellow to fabricate
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@ptrooper How are the Gaia with the L800? Have you done anything else to them?
My latest change was a swap of preamp from a SS C47 to a tube C70. I have them active bi-amp with a 370Hz 24db/oct xover and contemplating pulling out the bass passive crossover. I can actually tri-amp as I ordered the active crossover with the matching polk frequencies (switchable between 2-way and 3-way), and since there is an extra binding post, use them for the tweeter. Only problem is how to power the SDA.- Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
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@mpitogo ,Sorry for not replying sooner,i didn't notice any notification and i haven't been on for a couple of days,usually i'm logged in 24/7
Have fun triamping,Can't wait to hear about your gains!
I have the GAIA 1's on my L800's and four isoacoustic oreo's under my bluray/pre ,these have been in place for around two weeks now.
They have clocked over 650 hours to date with a daily average of 12 hrs , being sonos via (Mit digital reference) during the day and the tv ,Samsung 65"(cheep optical) feed by night.The wife loves them.
They really throw a deep and well balanced soundstage ,I find them to be extremely fast with amazing dynamics and resolution.But ,as always, It all comes down to the source material etc! I'm very happy with them!
I'm looking forward to trying to slip some decent power cables and maybe a voltage regulator/filter in the near future whilst the miss's isn't looking.
I'd love to hear these mids and tweets made to spec for replacements on the big old boys and their siblings. Maybe,one day.
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Thanks for the update. The GAIA's really look nice.
- Living Room Music-2.1 Polk Legend L800 | SVS SB1000Pro | McIntosh C70 | McIntosh MA5200 (Treble) | McIntosh MC452 (Bass) | Sublimeacoustic K231 Active xover | Denon DP-2500A | Denafrips Ares II | Marantz HD-CD1 | Belkin Soundform Connect | iPad Pro USB to DAC
- Home Theater-9.7.6/15.1 (Atmos/Auro-3D) Polk LSiM707, LSiM706c, LSiM702 F/X [x6], Height LSiM703 [x6], HSU ULS-15Mk2x4, VTF-15HMk2x2, VTF-TN1 | Trinnov Altitude 16+4 (2024) | Rotel RB-1590 (L/R) | Appollon NC500 11ch | Martin Logan MP500x2 | Topping DX7s, E50 | AppleTV 4K | Zidoo Z9X | JVC RS2100 | 150” Elite Screen Acoustic Pro UHD
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- Master Bedroom Music-2.0 Totem Hawk | Marantz PM-10 | Marantz SA-10 | SONY PS-HX500
- Office-2.1 B&W Formation Duo and Bass
- Daughter's Gaming Rig-2.0 Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX | Martin Logan Forte
- Orphans DSW microPRO3000x2 | Rotel RA-1570 | Marantz AV8805A
- Guest Room 2-2.0 Klipsch RP-600M | SMSL DO100 Pro 2 | Pass ACA v1.6 Monoblocks
- Guest Room 3-3.0 Martin Logan Motion 40, 50XT | Onkyo TX-SR705 | Apple TV | Samsung 55" TV
- Guest Room 4-2.0 QAcoustics 3030i | Sansui AU-6900 | Sansui FR-1080 | Fire TV
- Maintenance: Pro-Ject VC-S Record Cleaning Machine
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First reflection from rear wall sorted. Sound absorber to me. Art to the miss’s😀
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I like it!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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@mpitogo ,Sorry for not replying sooner,i didn't notice any notification and i haven't been on for a couple of days,usually i'm logged in 24/7
Have fun triamping,Can't wait to hear about your gains!
I have the GAIA 1's on my L800's and four isoacoustic oreo's under my bluray/pre ,these have been in place for around two weeks now. <snip>
Very nice! What improvements did you notice with those GAIA 1's over spikes on your wood floor? Assuming you tried spikes, that is. If not, what improvements over factory equip?
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@gardenstater.I must admit the original polk spikes with rubber boots supplied do a great job!.I didn't try spikes alone!!!
The Giai 1's stopped the back and forth motion in less time on the push/bump test but they definitely weren't rigid as if coupled to the floor.They tightened up the bottom end giving nice depth to the soundstage .
The Oreo's under the JLTI oppo added subtle micro dynamics to the top end giving more air to the sound stage .My oppo 105d JLTI also has a few layers of dynomat installed!
Inspired by a one of Dark Knight's post' from memory..
I felt the L800s really relaxed from 700 hrs +,they have 800 clocked in now.
When seated,our ears aren't at tweeter level !
With movies,the L800's throw extremely dynamic micro details as if they were coming from other rooms.
My "stock SDA SRS" didn't sound this good, but i didn't have the SRS from new so the original owner may have tripped them allot!! The tweeter protection would have shut them down at pressure lvls the 800's are doing comfortably.
The L800's do need more power but they certainly are pillars of sound like their bigger brothers.
I have recently rugged the wall and was amazed at how it also improved the bottom end .
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I had the stock 2.3’s for 20 years. They just died. So
I’m now listening to my stock Lsi9’s.I love to listen music, and I’m not electrically inclined so they were hauled away. I’m going to buy the L800’s. I really appreciate all your input Polkies. I’m 81, and times a wasting ...Some final words,
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren -
I would have done the crossovers for you for free Warren...
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Thank you.Some final words,
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren -
Ambiguous pricing. Makes it look like $12K for a pair.
This is the post that squelched my buying the L800...Some final words,
"If you keep banging your head against the wall,
you're going to have headaches."
Warren -
I don't follow.
They're $6k/pair: https://www.musicdirect.com/speakers/Polk-Audio-Legend-L800-Tower-Speakers -
New L800 review from Ron at New Record Day. I haven't watched it yet.... because it's an HOUR long. But I figured this belongs here.
https://youtu.be/_MjK6YWQt6M Analog: Hana ML > MoFi UltraDeck > Bob's Devices Sky 20-S > Sutherland 20/20 w/LPS
Digital: Cambridge CXC / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
MastersounD Dueventi > Rosso Fiorentino Certaldo or Hifiman EF600 > Hifiman Arya Stealth
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Interesting microphone placement for that review. Not sure it fully captures the listener's experience at the ears, but an excellent review using good tracks.
