Formula One 2018

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  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 800
    I can't believe no one is talking about the race yesterday!!!! F1 came out with a BANG and delivered an Superbowl performance. The Merc's dominated all weekend from from free practice 1 to the final Qualifying lap with Bottas spinning out and still held pole. Great job by Lando Norris (I saw it in him last year) getting his first podium (even though it was due to a penalty on Hamilton. The Best thing about the race is that they are coming back next week to the same track. Definitely the gloves will be off this time.
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  • motorhead43026motorhead43026 Posts: 3,700
    edited July 6
    They are probably boycotting.

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    They are all probably boycotting now...lol.

    ^ He says on bended knee ^

    I think what some drivers did before the race was despicable. The idea that sports organizations and the people in them earning millions believe they are anything more than entertainment is laughable.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    I can't believe no one is talking about the race yesterday!!!! F1 came out with a BANG and delivered an Superbowl performance. The Merc's dominated all weekend from from free practice 1 to the final Qualifying lap with Bottas spinning out and still held pole. Great job by Lando Norris (I saw it in him last year) getting his first podium (even though it was due to a penalty on Hamilton. The Best thing about the race is that they are coming back next week to the same track. Definitely the gloves will be off this time.

    With almost half the field out during the race, very questionable penalties, no fans, etc. I'd say it was an epic failure.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,310
    In what came as a surprise to nobody, Daniel Ricciardo's car broke.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    Comment from Mercedes on the issues they were having in Austria.
    This is a circuit where it’s quite easy to overtake and as a result if you don’t use the kerbs, if you don’t push hard, you’re at risk. That’s one of the factors, but it’s the kerbs themselves that are very, very violent and you spend a lot of the lap running on them. For us, that was that issue and it probably doesn’t help that it’s nearly 30 degrees here, the air’s a bit thin so it’s hot, there isn’t as much cooling as you normally get, and all the temperatures inside the car are high.

    Maybe if you left the cars silver instead of painting them black the issue wouldn't be anywhere near what it is. HELLO!!!
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,310
    Yeah honestly I preferred last year's livery on the MB cars.
  • KexKex Posts: 4,304
    Seems fairly obvious that the color of the cars had nothing to do with the outcome. 🙄

    ”Botched strategy, mechanical issues doom Mercedes at F1 Austrian GP”
    However, everything started to unravel on lap 14 when Valtteri Bottas exited the race from second place courtesy of a hydraulic problem which caused the gearbox to fail.

    In the ensuring virtual safety car period, Ferrari and Red Bull cars pitted but Mercedes didn’t.
    The next -- and bigger -- problem was tire wear. With temperatures much higher than at any other point across the weekend, the tires were suffering badly. Mercedes, which in recent years has often been heavy on its tires, was among those worst affected.
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  • KexKex Posts: 4,304
    Similar heat problems for MBZ in Austria last year, when the cars were silver.

    ”Wolff says Mercedes need to work on cooling problems after Austria struggles”
    Painful. That’s how Mercedes Team Principal Toto Wolff described his viewing of the Austrian Grand Prix as he was forced to watch his silver cars cruise around – rather than fight – because of cooling issues...

    Mercedes arrived in Austria unbeaten, with eight wins on the trot this year. They knew Austria was going to be challenging, with the warm conditions and altitude – and that turned out to be the case as they could not compete with Red Bull or Ferrari...
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    Quoting all that info from last year in an effort to twist the facts is an epic failure on your part, which comes as no surprise.

    No one can dispute the fact that a black car will get a helluva lot hotter than a silver car. Mercedes had heat related issues last year due the reduced size of the cooling openings done for aero reasons. They addressed that and in races after Austria 2019 in even higher temperatures the cooling issue was a non-factor.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    edited July 8
    Kex wrote: »
    Seems fairly obvious that the color of the cars had nothing to do with the outcome. 🙄

    ”Botched strategy, mechanical issues doom Mercedes at F1 Austrian GP”
    However, everything started to unravel on lap 14 when Valtteri Bottas exited the race from second place courtesy of a hydraulic problem which caused the gearbox to fail.

    In the ensuring virtual safety car period, Ferrari and Red Bull cars pitted but Mercedes didn’t.
    The next -- and bigger -- problem was tire wear. With temperatures much higher than at any other point across the weekend, the tires were suffering badly. Mercedes, which in recent years has often been heavy on its tires, was among those worst affected.

    That's not 2020. 🙄
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,536
    edited July 8
    F1nut wrote: »
    No one can dispute the fact that a black car will get a helluva lot hotter than a silver car. Mercedes had heat related issues last year due the reduced size of the cooling openings done for aero reasons. They addressed that and in races after Austria 2019 in even higher temperatures the cooling issue was a non-factor.

    Wouldn't driving fast keep the outside of the car cool? Granted the engine gets hot, but I suspect that occurs irrespective of the car color.
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  • KexKex Posts: 4,304
    F1nut wrote: »
    That's not 2020. 🙄

    Exactly. MBZ has had a problem at the Austrian GP well before 2020.

    And what color was the car that won this year?

    Oh wait! 🤭

    Yeah... BLACK. 🤫
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    BlueFox wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    No one can dispute the fact that a black car will get a helluva lot hotter than a silver car. Mercedes had heat related issues last year due the reduced size of the cooling openings done for aero reasons. They addressed that and in races after Austria 2019 in even higher temperatures the cooling issue was a non-factor.

    Wouldn't driving fast keep the outside of the car cool? Granted the engine gets hot, but I suspect that occurs irrespective of the car color.

    The sun is still beating down.
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  • KexKex Posts: 4,304
    edited July 8
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Wouldn't driving fast keep the outside of the car cool? Granted the engine gets hot, but I suspect that occurs irrespective of the car color.

    It’s not about the facts, silly.

    Sure, black absorbs heat, but a well built engine should be able to cool itself properly, and the bodywork is not the main factor in cooling it down. I drive black MBZ cars, and they don’t run hotter than white or silver cars, because the cooling is designed that way.

    The hot temperatures in Austria, with the effect of the altitude, would appear to have contributed to problems.

    In any case, it’s no surprise that those who protested Hamilton’s kneeling before the race, would also protest the team changing the car color to black in sympathy for his cause - and the other car, from the same team WON. It was black.
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  • KexKex Posts: 4,304
    F1nut wrote: »
    ... They addressed that and in races after Austria 2019 in even higher temperatures the cooling issue was a non-factor.

    What about altitude?! 🤔
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    edited July 8
    Kex wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Wouldn't driving fast keep the outside of the car cool? Granted the engine gets hot, but I suspect that occurs irrespective of the car color.

    It’s not about the facts, silly.

    Sure, black absorbs heat, but a well built engine should be able to cool itself properly, and the bodywork is not the main factor in cooling it down. I drive black MBZ cars, and they don’t run hotter than white or silver cars, because the cooling is designed that way.

    The hot temperatures in Austria, with the effect of the altitude, would appear to have contributed to problems.

    The facts are you have no idea what you're talking about. Fact, last year the issue was engine cooling due to the size of the air ducts. This year it was the electronics housed under the skin of the car, which were failing due to excessive heat unrelated to the size of the air ducts, but the increased internal temperatures directly related to the black paint on the body.
    In any case, it’s no surprise that those who protested Hamilton’s kneeling before the race, would also protest the team changing the car color to black in sympathy for his cause - and the other car, from the same team WON. It was black.

    When all else fails and you look like a fool with a big bag of nothing you pull the race card. Sad, but typical.

    Read this until it sinks in. Not engine related, it was electronics related.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,819
    Wait -- them guys' got black paint...?!?

    hmm...

  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,310
    Kex wrote: »
    the team changing the car color to black in sympathy for his cause.

    I had no idea that this was supposedly the reason for the livery change. Figured they were just going for a different look for the car this year.
  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 800
    Well, according to the weather report for this weekend "HEAT" will not be an issue, but possible rain will be on the menu. Danny Ric already smashed up in FP2
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    ESPN is worthless.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,819
    The John Player Specials were gorgeous in black & gold.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,536
    edited July 11
    Aren’t slicks now banned? I seem to remember that the cars were too fast with slicks. However, I’m not betting any money on my memory. :)

    Edit:

    Never mind. Google knows everything. Apparently they were banned from 1998 to 2008, and were then re-allowed. Shows how much I keep up on sports. :)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_slick
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,819
    edited July 13
    Lookit the tie on the geezer in the JPS photo -- that's old school F1, ol' son...


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    OK, not quite that old school.
  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 800
    F1nut wrote: »
    ESPN is worthless.

    Lucky I saw the highlights on youtube, I saw what you were saying ESPN screwed the pooch on this one, they should have replayed the Q sessions at a later time.
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  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 800
    I guess the universe is back in alinement...Hamilton back up front and Max's Tires just didn't have enough left to fight off Bottas. Once again Lando proving he will be the man next year at Mclaren. Danny Ric looked like he got his lunch money stolen from him in those last laps and Daddy Stroll must have put boot in Jr's butt as he is racing for his life all of a sudden.
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  • recoveryonerecoveryone Posts: 800
    Racing point throwing the gauntlet down on the rest of the field "How you like me NOW!"
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  • OleBootOleBoot Posts: 695
    Racing point throwing the gauntlet down on the rest of the field "How you like me NOW WE'RE A PINK MERCEDES!"

    FIFY
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,826
    US, Canada and Brazil races officially cancelled due to the Wuhan virus.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,310
    Damn, Circuit of the Americas is one of my favorite tracks.
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