What did you do to your stereo rig today?

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,388
    The stereo is sounding exceptional tonight, must be the moon is at the right height and the the cosmos are aligned or something
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,931
    VR3 wrote: »
    The stereo is sounding exceptional tonight, must be the moon is at the right height and the the cosmos are aligned or something

    I agree that must be it because mine is just exceptional tonight. These 2.3tl's, Aragon amp and Adcom 565 just keep getting better it seems.
  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    edited November 2019
    Well, shoot. Guess I better listen to at least one album before I put on Simpsons and go to bed. Hopefully the moon is the right height from CO too.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,878
    That's no moon... That's Russ' pasty azz planted against your windows.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,315
    Yesterday I was finally able to sit down and listen to my 1.2tl's for the first time in over a month. It was an OMG moment and for most of the evening as well to hear the expansive and detailed sda soundstage once again. My ears were accustomed to hearing standard stereo speakers (khorns and ADS 1530's) which are great performers.....except when compared to the 1.2tls.
  • I know what you mean. Those OMG moments are very surprising and wonderful.
    "Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"
    Harry / Marietta GA
  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,149
    ZLTFUL wrote: »
    These new Rosso Fiorentino Elba are something special.
    the originals were good but nothing that ever wowed me.
    The second gen Elbas though are amazingly good. I even caught myself enjoying them more than the (GASP) Siennas. I guess it is because they are far more attainable for a mere mortal like me.

    things that make you go, uhmmm??
    AC Regenerator PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Source Lumin U1 Mini into Lampizator Baltic 4 DAC
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Power Rogue M180 Dark monos
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Rythmik F12
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 29,388
    In a decade I'm sure you can find them for around 4 to 5k no problem
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,668
    I resurrected a Sony PS-LX5 turntable today that I picked up cheap a fee weeks ago Really just needed cleaning up and a new stylus.
  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,875
    While my mono's are in for a refresh I was given a Hafler 500 "loaner" Auditioning shows good depth in the soundstage but a complete collapse of the SDA effect I became accustomed to with the B&K's. Bass is greatly diminished. Mids and highs are good almost too crisp to the point of fatiguing but I need to listen some more. I REALLY need to find me a good pre but things are kinda tight right now.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre Upgraded with Mundorf Supremes
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,917
    I bought myself a Christmas present (with Mrs. H's foreknowledge and - at least tacit - approval). Further details as events warrant.

    Well... I thought it was a cool thing, and unusually so. :)

  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,875
    Threw in an old Carver 900 Receiver between my CA 851N and the loaner Hafler 500 I'm forced to use while my monos are getting a tuneup. I hate to say it but I actually like this WAY better than using the pre in the 851. The Hafler has so little bass compared to what I'm used to that I added the receiver just so I can use the loudness button feature. It also helped knock down some of the harshness that was killing me with the 500/851N combo. Bonus is the SDA effect is working again.
    Gustard X26 Pro DAC
    Belles 21A Pre Upgraded with Mundorf Supremes
    B&K M200 Sonata monoblocks refreshed and upgraded
    Polk SDA 1C's modded / 1000Va Dreadnaught
    Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
    Harman Kardon T65C w/Grado Gold. (Don't laugh. It sounds great!)


    There is about a 5% genetic difference between apes and men …but that difference is the difference between throwing your own poo when you are annoyed …and Einstein, Shakespeare and Miss January. by Dr. Sardonicus
  • I've been having trouble with my newly acquired SDA SRS3.2TLs in that there were very few songs that gave me the SDA Effect. Some suggested it was that my Pioneer 100wt receiver didn't have enough current to drive them. Well, I bought myself an early XMAS/Hanukkah present... Amazon had a Monolith USB DAC on sale for $52. WOW! The imaging and overall sound have improved dramatically. Like removing a veil. Very happy... Just wish i did it years ago. Listening to flac rips of some regular cds, MFSL cds, and some 96/24 downloads. Just amazing! Anyone else have similar results with a DAC? Was looking at the dragonfly when I saw this on sale... even cheaper now on Amazon. ELP, Joe Satriani, Jeff Beck, SRV, Eagles, Steely Dan just sound amazing. Like a whole new system!
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    I swapped out the 5ar4 rectifier tube to a 5U4GB,and a OD3 regulator to a OC3,in my Aric Audio Unlimited pre amp on the recommendation of an agon poster,and Aric. If you have one of these pre's,I highly recommended this swap. Pure magic.
    See my profile for list of gear.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,917
    edited December 2019
    So, a 5U4 will have a slightly higher peak inverse voltage rating, but a higher voltage drop, and lower capacity to deliver power (i.e., lower plate current rating) compared to a 5AR4 -- I take it that the Aric Audio Unlimited (whatever that is) doesn't need the extra performance capabilities of a 5AR4? ...'cause if it does, it might not be very happy with a 5U4 in there(?)

    https://300guitars.com/articles/rectifier-tube-voltage-drop-chart/
    http://www.fourwater.com/files/fullrect.txt

  • @scottfox Absolutely! The quality of DAC makes a huge difference and I'm assuming you went from the computer's soundcard's DAC to an external USB one, which is the biggest jump you will observe. Believe it or not, higher end external USB DAC's will result in further improvements in noise reduction, jitter reduction, musicality of presentation, etc.. I have a modest DAC compared to most people here (gotta start somewhere) with an iFi nano idsd DAC. I got a huge improvement by adding an iPurifier3 and, to a lesser extent, an iDefender with a low noise external iPower power supply. The iPurifier3 does what some much higher quality DAC's and higher end regenerators do in that it regenerates and reclocks the USB signal resulting in a much cleaner, smoother, and musical sound.
    George / NJ

    Polk 7B main speakers, std. mods+ (1979, orig owner)
    Martin Logan Dynamo sub w/6ft 14awg Power Cord
    Onkyo A-8017 integrated
    Logitech Squeezebox Touch Streamer w/EDO applet
    iFi nano iDSD DAC
    iPurifier3
    iDefender w/ iPower PS
    Custom Steve Wilson 1m UPOCC Interconnect
    iFi Mercury 0.5m OFHC continuous cast copper USB cable
    Custom Ribbon Speaker Cables, 5ft long, 4N Copper, 14awg, ultra low inductance
    Custom Vibration Isolation Speaker Stands and Sub Platform
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    edited December 2019
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    So, a 5U4 will have a slightly higher peak inverse voltage rating, but a higher voltage drop, and lower capacity to deliver power (i.e., lower plate current rating) compared to a 5AR4 -- I take it that the Aric Audio Unlimited (whatever that is) doesn't need the extra performance capabilities of a 5AR4? ...'cause if it does, it might not be very happy with a 5U4 in there(?)

    https://300guitars.com/articles/rectifier-tube-voltage-drop-chart/
    http://www.fourwater.com/files/fullrect.txt
    That's why Aric had me replace the OD3,with an OC3,due to the voltage dip. Aric Audio is a small shop in MA. Reasonable price,high quality stuff. At least in my opinion.
    The "Unlimited " is one of his preamps. If I could figure it out,I would post a link. It would make things so much easier.
    See my profile for list of gear.
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
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    Here’s a quick pic of my pre.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,917
    edited December 2019
    Don't know it/him.
    http://aricaudio.com/tube_gear.php

    For a preamp, which should have modest P/S demands, it probably doesn't matter what's in there... but the 5AR4 was a super-duper HV fullwave rectifier, developed for high-power, high-performance hifi (and fairly late in the vacuum tube era, too). Plus, good ones are 'spensive (and most of the current production 5AR4s are more or less junky). 5U4s are a dime a dozen (in fact, I can send you a couple if you want to play with -- and you're in the US :) Just PM me).

    "We" sometimes substitute rectifiers with more voltage drop as a quick & dirty workaround to the typically higher AC mains voltage of today vs. the 1950s (it takes some of the strain off of vintage hifi components, which might otherwise push, e.g., output tubes too hard). Gee-tar amp buffs tend to like some sag in their amp
    P/S, but they're into creative uses of distortion (and compression), which we generally like to avoid in hifi.

    Still, lots of designers/builders out there with all kinds of ideas!
    Pretty 'stiff' P/S design for what looks to be a pretty simple preamp -- I would guess the 5U4 loosens things up a bit and may well sound better.

    EDIT: The photos on the site show a Sovtek 5AR4. Did you have a good one (vintage Mullard) in yours, or a current production 5AR4? If the latter, that may be why the 5U4 sounds better, too. :|

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    It is cool it has a built-in phono preamp for that low price.

  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    Ivan??? Do tell
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 26,931
    joecoulson wrote: »
    Ivan??? Do tell

    Snitches get stitches I'll never give it up ...

    What are we talking about ?
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Don't know it/him.
    http://aricaudio.com/tube_gear.php

    For a preamp, which should have modest P/S demands, it probably doesn't matter what's in there... but the 5AR4 was a super-duper HV fullwave rectifier, developed for high-power, high-performance hifi (and fairly late in the vacuum tube era, too). Plus, good ones are 'spensive (and most of the current production 5AR4s are more or less junky). 5U4s are a dime a dozen (in fact, I can send you a couple if you want to play with -- and you're in the US :) Just PM me).

    "We" sometimes substitute rectifiers with more voltage drop as a quick & dirty workaround to the typically higher AC mains voltage of today vs. the 1950s (it takes some of the strain off of vintage hifi components, which might otherwise push, e.g., output tubes too hard). Gee-tar amp buffs tend to like some sag in their amp
    P/S, but they're into creative uses of distortion (and compression), which we generally like to avoid in hifi.

    Still, lots of designers/builders out there with all kinds of ideas!
    Pretty 'stiff' P/S design for what looks to be a pretty simple preamp -- I would guess the 5U4 loosens things up a bit and may well sound better.

    EDIT: The photos on the site show a Sovtek 5AR4. Did you have a good one (vintage Mullard) in yours, or a current production 5AR4? If the latter, that may be why the 5U4 sounds better, too. :|

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    It is cool it has a built-in phono preamp for that low price.

    I only used the Sovtek that Aric provided,so no experience with anything else. The 5AR4 was replaced with a 5U4GB. As I understand it,there is also a 5U4 (no GB)? He said DO NOT USE A 5U4. That he said would cause problems. Now you must know,I have about zero technical knowledge. I figured if the guy that built this suggested the swap,explained how I could make it happen,and also talked about how the sound might be effected. I figured I'd give it a whirl,and I'm glad I did.
    The pre I have does not have a phono stage,as I already had one,and I run a mc cart. I found out about his gear on one of the other forums,and purchased one of his early pre's.(which I still own) I think his stuff sounds great,he's great to deal with,and I can actually afford some of his products!
    See my profile for list of gear.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,917
    The 5U4GB is rated for 275 mA plate current, the GA was only rated for 250 mA, and the "G" ("G" stands for "Glass" -- there was no unsuffixed version per se and AFAIK), which was a 5Z4 with an octal base, was only rated for 225 mA.
    Apparently there was a metal 5U4 'variant', but its type designation was 5T4.
    http://www.fourwater.com/files/fullrect.txt

    That's
    why the designer/builder says to use the GB if you're not going to use a 5AR4.

  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    Hey guys! @rocray , the 5U4GB (not 5U4 or 5U4G) can safely be used in the Unlimited as the first filter cap it requires can be no larger than 40uf, whereas the 5U4 is much lower (the Unlimited uses 33 uf). Using it will lower the B+ voltage just a bit, so just make sure the regulators light consistently. If you find they are going out, then use one OC3 and one OD3 when the 5U4GB is in place. I agree with Tube Power on his choice for a favorite 5U4GB. For 5AR4s I’ve only ever used new production- either the Sovtek, Tung Sol or Mullard reissues all sound really good! Best, Aric

    Here was part of our conversation on Agon. This is all way above my pay grade.
    See my profile for list of gear.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 34,917
    Ahh, so he uses a big input filter. That's the deal.
    Thanks.
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    At some point I'll try a different/better? 5AR4,but the 5U4GB,OC3 combo sounds so good.
    See my profile for list of gear.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,945
    Started catching up on all of the new albums I have....one, right after the other.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,032
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Started catching up on all of the new albums I have....one, right after the other.

    Tom
    What have you been playing?
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,084
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,945
    TEAforONE wrote: »
    What have you been playing?

    Mark Knopfler, 3 new albums from Chris Stapleton, Eva Cassidy and a couple of new ones from Vince Gill. Enjoyable day.

    Never knew Chris Stapleton until I heard him on the speakers at a bar while I was eating pizza. I heard something about "Tenesssee Whisky and Strawberry wine", so I looked it up on the phone while I was there 'cuz I really dug the song....or what I could hear of it. Daggum place was noisy!

    Went home and played all CS songs on Tidal and got to liking his style and voice. Liked him so much, I bought three of his albums right off the bat. Glad I did.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~