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  • I get the concept, displayname, but it could also backfire on them. I know a couple people who are ticked off by the "exclusivity" of the release. I'm less ticked and more just scratching my head about the whole thing. A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho. You're probably right though, another release will be on the way soon enough. Anyway... dead horse and all...

    Bluefix - Yeah, I might end up getting the digital, but I like to have the physical and then rip it myself for my Plex library. Best of both worlds.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,176
    audio_alan wrote: »
    Bluefix - Yeah, I might end up getting the digital, but I like to have the physical and then rip it myself for my Plex library. Best of both worlds.

    The problem there is a ripped CD is still only 44/16 sound versus the 96/24 sound quality from HDTracks.

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  • BlueFox wrote: »
    audio_alan wrote: »
    Bluefix - Yeah, I might end up getting the digital, but I like to have the physical and then rip it myself for my Plex library. Best of both worlds.

    The problem there is a ripped CD is still only 44/16 sound versus the 96/24 sound quality from HDTracks.

    Good point, BlueFox.... well played. :wink:
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,451
    audio_alan wrote: »
    A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho.

    Most people don't give a hoot about physical media.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • Nightfall wrote: »
    audio_alan wrote: »
    A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho.

    Most people don't give a hoot about physical media.

    True, except for the fact that most Tool fans are probably in their mid/late 40's or older, and they're probably less on the digital train than the youngsters. Physical media is a great backup, you get the artwork, the liner notes, and you can hold it. Maybe my age is showing. Ha!
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,176
    I will be 70 in two weeks. Physical media is fine if there isn’t a high-res version available. I have boxes full of CDs just taking up space. :)

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,359
    audio_alan wrote: »
    you can hold it.

    You can hold your Tool? :o
  • Viking64 wrote: »
    audio_alan wrote: »
    you can hold it.

    You can hold your Tool? :o

    As often as I can. Is it just me? LOL! :D
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,451
    audio_alan wrote: »
    Nightfall wrote: »
    audio_alan wrote: »
    A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho.

    Most people don't give a hoot about physical media.

    True, except for the fact that most Tool fans are probably in their mid/late 40's or older, and they're probably less on the digital train than the youngsters. Physical media is a great backup, you get the artwork, the liner notes, and you can hold it. Maybe my age is showing. Ha!

    I don't know about that. Tool were occupying a whole bunch of top 10 iTunes download charts. Albums and songs.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • Nightfall wrote: »

    I don't know about that. Tool were occupying a whole bunch of top 10 iTunes download charts. Albums and songs.

    Yeah, because nobody could find the physical media! Check and mate! hahaha :p
  • audio_alan wrote: »
    I get the concept, displayname, but it could also backfire on them. I know a couple people who are ticked off by the "exclusivity" of the release. I'm less ticked and more just scratching my head about the whole thing. A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho. You're probably right though, another release will be on the way soon enough. Anyway... dead horse and all...

    Bluefix - Yeah, I might end up getting the digital, but I like to have the physical and then rip it myself for my Plex library. Best of both worlds.
    audio_alan wrote: »
    I get the concept, displayname, but it could also backfire on them. I know a couple people who are ticked off by the "exclusivity" of the release. I'm less ticked and more just scratching my head about the whole thing. A solid album will build a MUCH stronger fan base than any limited release trickery scheme, imho. You're probably right though, another release will be on the way soon enough. Anyway... dead horse and all...

    Bluefix - Yeah, I might end up getting the digital, but I like to have the physical and then rip it myself for my Plex library. Best of both worlds.
    I’m not saying I agree or disagree with it, just saying that’s what they’ve done previously. I would not be shocked by a regular CD version later, premium vinyl later, and standard vinyl even later. It’s not an uncommon release cycle for artists with huge following, which Tool has.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,451
    So now that it's been a while, how does everyone else rank this in the discography? Does anyone like it more than Lateralus or 10k Days? More than Aenima?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • verbverb Posts: 7,939
    This is interesting. Blu-Ray and DVD-A compatible? Looks like a bootleg to me.

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    On eBay of all places!

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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,451
    halo wrote: »
    I’m not really into “ranking” their stuff. Either I like it or I don’t. I like it :)

    Fair enough.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,564
    1. 10000 days
    2. aenima
    3. lateralus
    4. fear In
    5. undertow
    6. opiate


    Although 3 & 4 could swap
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,324
    verb wrote: »
    This is interesting. Blu-Ray and DVD-A compatible? Looks like a bootleg to me.

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    On eBay of all places!

    Bootleg?
    eBAY?

    I am shocked.
    Shocked.

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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 4,359
    mhardy6647 wrote: »

    Bootleg?
    eBAY?

    I am shocked.
    Shocked.


  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,606
    I'm on the fence to be perfectly honest. I like the older albums much better and I'm really getting tired of hearing the Fear Inc. song every 12th song on the radio across multiple stations.
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 442
    Apparently some stores are getting restocks. Good news for anyone that doesn't want to pay the resale prices.
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    @marvda1 - might be worth picking up since you couldn't rip my copy.
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  • halohalo Posts: 5,244
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I'm on the fence to be perfectly honest. I like the older albums much better and I'm really getting tired of hearing the Fear Inc. song every 12th song on the radio across multiple stations.

    I can understand how/why you feel that way. But, Sober and Schism had a lot of air play back in the day as well. Time has been a good buffer! :)

    Plus, I’m really happy for them and their much deserved and long overdue mainstream success. Just my humble opinion.
  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 442
    I don't mind rankings, but I can't rank this one yet. It's still very new and getting a ton of play time in my house. I need to see how I feel about in a year honestly.

    But I feel pretty confident that Lateralus will remain firmly planted as #1 for me.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,451
    edited October 15
    Lateralus is a masterpiece.

    Fear Inoculum is kind of far down on the Tool discography rankings for me. I still love it though. It's like asking to rank a burger, pizza, and steak. They're all great but something has to come last.
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,564
    Yeah. Please don’t take my ranking as saying the bottom ones are less than stellar (except maybe opiate- not my cup of tea) because they are all fantastic. Just some speak to me more than others.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,606
    halo wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I'm on the fence to be perfectly honest. I like the older albums much better and I'm really getting tired of hearing the Fear Inc. song every 12th song on the radio across multiple stations.

    I can understand how/why you feel that way. But, Sober and Schism had a lot of air play back in the day as well. Time has been a good buffer! :)

    Plus, I’m really happy for them and their much deserved and long overdue mainstream success. Just my humble opinion.

    Yes I'm very happy for them and their success 100%

    I feel for me this one runs together a little more so than the earlier albums. My take is that the songs seem very similar in structure. For me I feel earlier albums had more of a harder edge. Don't get me wrong here it may just take a year or more to finally hit me and I may feel different.
    No disrespect meant I've had many albums that had not grabbed me right off the bat.
    It's why I said I'm on the fence.
  • PSOVLSKPSOVLSK Posts: 4,134
    edited October 15
    audio_alan wrote: »
    ...I noticed you can stream if for free if you have Amazon Prime.

    I’m a month late, but I just saw this and downloaded it in UltraHD via Amazon Prime. Going to bed now, but will listen tomorrow.
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  • verbverb Posts: 7,939
    Apparently some stores are getting restocks. Good news for anyone that doesn't want to pay the resale prices.
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    @marvda1 - might be worth picking up since you couldn't rip my copy.

    Only available in stores! Kinda cool, IMO, to limit the number of re-sellers out there! :)
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  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 442
    If anyone is interested in tickets to the show in San Antonio, feel free to shoot me a PM. We had some family stuff come up, so we won't be able to make it unfortunately. They are currently listed on Ticketmaster, but I wouldn't mid bypassing some fees on both ends.

    We have 4 to sell.
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