Impressions of Tidal

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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 6,010
    Tidal has definitely gotten considerably better with radio and customized playlists. Still not nearly as good as Spotify, but it’s plenty good for me since I care more about sound quality and mostly listen to my own playlists or albums I’ve saved.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Solar Fields makes good stuff.

    Yep. Marketing scheme? For sure! I've since bought a few BluTech CD's, and looking for others on this playlist! All good, cause it's music that ordinarily I wouldn't have been exposed too.
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  • displaynamedisplayname Posts: 485
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Tidal has definitely gotten considerably better with radio and customized playlists. Still not nearly as good as Spotify, but it’s plenty good for me since I care more about sound quality and mostly listen to my own playlists or albums I’ve saved.
    I do love the curated music on Spotify. It's one of the biggest things that keeps me on that platform. I also use the collaborative playlist fairly often with friends. Spotify and YouTube are probably my top music discovery sources.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    So I've been digging the suggestions lately that Tidal has been making for me. Yep a bit lazy, but nice to select a playlist and have Tidal stream for hours on end.

    Still loving Solar Fields! :smile:
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  • MilitoMilito Posts: 658
    What about a senior discount?
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    Milito wrote: »
    What about a senior discount?

    Great idea! I do know they offer student and military discounts. Our son has the account and gets 1/2 off. Of course I have pay for it! :smile:
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  • gudnoyezgudnoyez Posts: 7,064
    edited July 29
    Tidal has saved me mucho dinero. The money saved from no longer buying CDs all the time and finding room to store them. I listen to stuff that I would of ended up buying, if it wasn't accessible through Tidal. The funny thing is my physical collection is large and I will take forever to make my mind up on what to listen to, I'm now experiencing the same problem scrolling through Tidal deciding what to listen to. The information on the artists that your listening to on Tidal is just as enjoyable as reading the liner notes on your physical media be it album or CD.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,648
    I've had Tidal for a few months now. Definitely softer, not as dynamic, as my ripped files. Still has a bit more detail and separation than Napster though, but Napster is still more dynamic. Tidal just seems too rounded around the edges, but I do like the detail and separation it throws out. Trade offs I guess with everything.
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  • ThortonThorton Posts: 1,248
    tonyb wrote: »
    I've had Tidal for a few months now. Definitely softer, not as dynamic, as my ripped files. Still has a bit more detail and separation than Napster though, but Napster is still more dynamic. Tidal just seems too rounded around the edges, but I do like the detail and separation it throws out. Trade offs I guess with everything.

    Try Qobuz for free. It sounds much closer to my ripped files than Tidal. I also found Tidal to sound too rounded.
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  • codycatalistcodycatalist Posts: 2,567
    Thorton wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I've had Tidal for a few months now. Definitely softer, not as dynamic, as my ripped files. Still has a bit more detail and separation than Napster though, but Napster is still more dynamic. Tidal just seems too rounded around the edges, but I do like the detail and separation it throws out. Trade offs I guess with everything.

    Try Qobuz for free. It sounds much closer to my ripped files than Tidal. I also found Tidal to sound too rounded.

    Agreed.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    Interesting. Had to get my read on of course. From Stereophile's audio glossary:
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,074
    I'm curious what type of cable most are using. USB, I'm sure.
    Keep this in mind . . . I'm a fresh as a daisy newbie streamer (using Tidal) and noticed a marked diff . . . er, improvement actually, going from a high quality USB to mid quality AES cable.
    It's too soon to make any conclusions as the cable and transport aren't run-in, yet.

    Are ya'll using USBs, or what?
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    For the PC, I'm using AQ Cinnamon USB and iFi Purifier2 to the NS DAC. The 2 Cambridge streamers are connected to Tidal via WiFi, and then digital coax to the NS DAC in the basement and Peachtree Integrated in the living room.
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  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 16,282
    Glenn, let that cable burn in. It does take time.
  • ThortonThorton Posts: 1,248
    GlennDog wrote: »
    I'm curious what type of cable most are using. USB, I'm sure.

    Are ya'll using USBs, or what?

    There’s many reviews with different cable set-ups… USB, Coaxial, AES. Most point to direct ethernet connection being the best and I can’t argue with that. I don’t see going back.
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,556
    I use an extender with 5 ethernet inputs for my living room, works perfect
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,074
    Thorton wrote: »
    There’s many reviews with different cable set-ups… USB, Coaxial, AES. Most point to direct ethernet connection being the best and I can’t argue with that. I don’t see going back.
    VR3 wrote: »
    I use an extender with 5 ethernet inputs for my living room, works perfect

    I should clarify. I’m coupling the “dacless” U1 Mini to my standalone DAC with said cable and direct Ethernet cable into the Mini
    Wifi is not an option

    I’ll let the usb run-in for the rest of the month and reevaluate 😎



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  • Mikey081057Mikey081057 Posts: 6,668
    I went the AES/EBU route from my U1 mini to my DAC... No perceptible noise and no perceptible flavoring of the music. Neat and simple and the connectors lock.

    My prefs would be:

    1 AES/EBU
    2. Digital Coax
    3. USB
    4. Optical

    But I haven't found a way to make the U1 Mini sound "bad" yet....Nicest streamer I have used to date and it mates very nicely with my DAC.
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  • I was also impressed by Tidal's Hi-Fi quality, just like CD quality. Although it's a little experience to subscribe to this plan, it worths this money.
    To play my Tidal music offline, I have used Tidal Music Downloader to download and convert Tidal to MP3 with my Hi-Fi subscription and then play them on my offline devices, such as MP3 player.
    I do love Tidal's high-quality audio files. Nice to meet Tidal to enjoy my music life.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,279
    Yes, let's convert Tidal to mp3s. Der duh der. Never heard of anything so pointless. Go away lame spammer.
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,074
    tonyb wrote: »
    I've had Tidal for a few months now. Definitely softer, not as dynamic, as my ripped files. Still has a bit more detail and separation than Napster though, but Napster is still more dynamic. Tidal just seems too rounded around the edges, but I do like the detail and separation it throws out. Trade offs I guess with everything.
    I’m wondering if this rounding-off was done on purpose. So the majority of ear bud and Close ‘N Play listeners find it agreeable??
    Clearly something was done to the master files, either deliberately or it’s a result of something else they did
    Thorton wrote: »
    Try Qobuz for free. It sounds much closer to my ripped files than Tidal. I also found Tidal to sound too rounded.

    Qobuz is on my list of things to try in the near future
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  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,107
    GlennDog wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    I've had Tidal for a few months now. Definitely softer, not as dynamic, as my ripped files. Still has a bit more detail and separation than Napster though, but Napster is still more dynamic. Tidal just seems too rounded around the edges, but I do like the detail and separation it throws out. Trade offs I guess with everything.
    I’m wondering if this rounding-off was done on purpose. So the majority of ear bud and Close ‘N Play listeners find it agreeable??
    Clearly something was done to the master files, either deliberately or it’s a result of something else they did
    Thorton wrote: »
    Try Qobuz for free. It sounds much closer to my ripped files than Tidal. I also found Tidal to sound too rounded.

    Qobuz is on my list of things to try in the near future

    Try it! Sound quality is better on Qubuz
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  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,971
    edited September 12
    TIDAL is damn impressive on the Lumin D2 using balanced inputs to the the slp05 , really impressed with this product.
  • Sound quality is better on Qubuz
  • WagnerRCWagnerRC Posts: 1,971
    Qubuz is very impressive. Sound is much better. signed up for the sublime+ for a year. not a bad deal at all. I guess its by by to Tidal. Thanks for the info.
  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 8,637
    There's a lot of bands I like nowhere to be found on Qobuz but are on Tidal.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 3,705
    Compared to FLAC’s of the same songs, they don’t compare. I wouldn’t say it sucks soup to nuts (mainly because it’s like having about 500,000+ cds) but head to head there is a clear winner.
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    This is weird. I get this on the PC, but the same playlist works fine on the iphone. Any ideas Tidal gurus?
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  • verbverb Posts: 8,185
    So, I deleted that album, and added it again. All is good. Still weird, though. :)
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