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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,288
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    @erniejade ^^ Big difference ^^ between 2ce and 3 meaning going up in number is for the better or worse? Trying to figure out the nomenclature.

    The 3a being better, clearer, more bass, clearer mids.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    https://www.zuaudio.com/loudspeakers/omen-dirty-weekend-2

    Be quick, in a week, and grab a pair of these.
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    edited March 2019
    For 6 hundred bucks... you need to run and grab these, and if you don't like them, you can send them to me. Magnepan's Ribbon tweeter is sublime.They are a three hour drive from you and maybe the seller will meet you somewhere in the middle, or the Polkie Express can help out.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnepan-Magneplanar-MG2-6R-True-Ribbon-Speakers/143184838662?hash=item21567b4006:g:CTwAAOSwk4hcc2CG

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,009
    edited March 2019
    I had the 2.5Rs and they were awesome! Almost no sub needed and there was a live sound to them. You'd swear the singers were in the room.

    If I didn't need money back when I sold them, I'd still have them.

    I had a lot more space back then and played them quite often. 600 is a steal if they're in great condition. I received 550.00 for mine years ago during a recession.

    Those real ribbons are superb!
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,553
    stretchl wrote: »
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    ^^ 16 hour run, each way, in my car ^^ I know... where is my committment... that might be out of range.

    I’d be happy to pick these up for you and hold onto them until I make my annual trek east in late May. Meet you down in Richmond for sure if I’m dont get as far north as DC.

    Not many have heard these but they are amazing. I'm playing "let's make a deal" with Klaus right now thanks to @stretchl (I'll PM you what happened if you'd like) and may have these for sale at less than your target price. Getting them to you could be "fun". 100 lbs each.

    Nothing definite at the moment but things are moving along.

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  • stretchl
    stretchl Posts: 1,334
    @ALL212 Ahhh, Klaus. I am interested so please do tell. I'm behind already on the first day in the office after spring break, so won't be able to respond immediately. But please share. :) I also have a story to tell. Maybe we should talk by phone later this week?
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  • adb3da
    adb3da Posts: 506
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    adb3da wrote: »
    Dynaudio Contour S3.4. I’ll admit that I am biased, those are the speakers that I own.

    Personal experience is welcomed! Nothing wrong with that and in fact what I'm hoping for!

    What do you dig about them?

    Honestly, I like pretty much everything about them. Great low end and sweet mid range. Not at all fatiguing. If you can get your ears on them then I highly recommend it. There are many Dynaudio models that you might find that you like.
  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    I truly truly appreciate the thoughts, comments, links and suggestions you all shared, gave me lots to think about and a wide net to cast which is always key to a good deal.
    So these followed me home this weekend... JMLab Electra 926, thoughts and impressions to come.
    Suffice to say because of the obvious condition issues, and the fact that the guy was moving in 5 days and just needed them gone, I was able to come to a favorable arrangement.
    Good news is they have cleaned up well so far, still want to redo grill cloth, and work out some of the marring on the wood finish. The drink rings cleaned right off.

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    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    Congrats man
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    Thanks @nooshinjohn, honestly, I might have enough left over to grab those Maggies too if I push it and see which ones I like better. I'm watching them right now and giving it serious consideration. I do worry about having to place them into the room, as you can see, I'm a little cramped off the wall.
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    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    DSkip wrote: »
    Forget the Maggie’s. You won’t hear what they are capable of in that room.

    Actually, they may do quite well there. I had MG20's cramped into a very small apartment and they were so good there that I got rid of my 2.3TL's...
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,288
    Nice speaker! I was actually looking at a set myself.
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    edited March 2019
    None taken @dskip, like you say we work with what we have, and its certainly not ideal.

    Any thoughts on if the Electra should be toed? I've tried both ways, I think so far I like them a little more with just the slightest toe-in as they are now, but it will be an evolution.
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    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    None taken @dskip, like you say we work with what we have, and its certainly not ideal.

    Any thoughts on if the Electra should be toed? I've tried both ways, I think so far I like them a little more with just the slightest toe-in as they are now, but it will be an evolution.

    Those look amazing! Congrats!

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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    ALL212 wrote: »
    stretchl wrote: »
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    ^^ 16 hour run, each way, in my car ^^ I know... where is my committment... that might be out of range.

    I’d be happy to pick these up for you and hold onto them until I make my annual trek east in late May. Meet you down in Richmond for sure if I’m dont get as far north as DC.

    Not many have heard these but they are amazing. I'm playing "let's make a deal" with Klaus right now thanks to @stretchl (I'll PM you what happened if you'd like) and may have these for sale at less than your target price. Getting them to you could be "fun". 100 lbs each.

    Nothing definite at the moment but things are moving along.

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    Are the VR2's making their way into your home??
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Looking good!

    I usually do a slight toe in, no tilt

    Definitely get them off the wall atleast a foot and try to prevent furniture between them...

    Congrats
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  • ALL212
    ALL212 Posts: 1,553

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    Are the VR2's making their way into your home?? [/quote]

    Liquids from Odyssey Audio are being negotiated. :)
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 325
    KEF Q750 retailing at $750/ea didn't make the list? I can't say I've heard them, but aren't they supposed to have trickle-down technology from the lauded LS series?
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    ^^ Honestly, I have heard some of the KEF^^, and they remind me a little of Wharfedale, in that English "laid back" kinda way. Maybe unfair, probably just an internal bias, but I eliminated KEF for that reason, right or wrong.
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    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 325
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    ^^ Honestly, I have heard some of the KEF^^, and they remind me a little of Wharfedale, in that English "laid back" kinda way. Maybe unfair, probably just an internal bias, but I eliminated KEF for that reason, right or wrong.

    I see. But the LS50 has a rep for being forward, and I figured with aluminum drivers the Q would be anything but laid back. I'll take your word for it, however.
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited March 2019
    sponger wrote: »
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    ^^ Honestly, I have heard some of the KEF^^, and they remind me a little of Wharfedale, in that English "laid back" kinda way. Maybe unfair, probably just an internal bias, but I eliminated KEF for that reason, right or wrong.

    I see. But the LS50 has a rep for being forward, and I figured with aluminum drivers the Q would be anything but laid back. I'll take your word for it, however.

    I have the Q150's and I would not describe them as "laid back" or as exceptionally forward. I think the previous generation of Q100's were more forward, brighter, and, possibly, more fatiguing. The Q150's are not fatiguing at all, to my ears, but they present many details, to me, in music that were veiled or hidden in the past. These are some of the most balanced speakers I've heard, especially with a sub taking care of the lowest notes. I am, of course, just a little biased. So, YMMV.
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    edited March 2019
    Hmm thanks for the comments, just goes to show, you have to listen to know for yourself. My bias out of ignorance of the brand probably eliminated a speaker (KEF) that i might have liked, completely unheard.
    I'll have to give them a good listen if I run across a set!
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    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,021
    Sooooo….How are you liking the Electra's?
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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    I know you put a hard stop at $1500, but, just a few hundred more would get you a really nice pair of Usher MD2's. I know a guy that can hook that up.
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,021
    kharp1 wrote: »
    I know you put a hard stop at $1500, but, just a few hundred more would get you a really nice pair of Usher MD2's. I know a guy that can hook that up.

    LOVE my MD2's. I don't see them leaving my house for a very long time. As a matter of fact, they may carry me out of the house before the speakers leave :#:D
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,862
    I 3rd the md2's :D
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  • MrBuhl
    MrBuhl Posts: 2,419
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    Sooooo….How are you liking the Electra's?

    Muy Bueno!

    At first I wasn't sure, I definitely was impressed with just how good the Lsim705's are in that this wasn't the slam dunk at first listen I was expecting... But in the end, I believe these are definitely keepers.
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    Noggin Schiit Valhalla, Pangea, Phillips Fidelio X1, Polk UF8000

    Polk SDA1c modded
    Polk CRS+ 4.1TL modded (need veneer)
    Polk SDA2BTL (fully modded)
    A/L 1000VA Dreadnought Canare 4s11 SDA cable
    SACD Marantz DV8300
    Sony S9000ES CD/DVD/SACD
    Yamaha YP-D6
    Soundcraftsmen PCR800
    Audible Illusions L1 Preamp
    Vincent MFA based Cocci Tube Preamp
    Pho-700 Phono Pre
    Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC's






  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
    MrBuhl wrote: »
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    Sooooo….How are you liking the Electra's?

    Muy Bueno!

    At first I wasn't sure, I definitely was impressed with just how good the Lsim705's are in that this wasn't the slam dunk at first listen I was expecting... But in the end, I believe these are definitely keepers.

    The older Electra’s are ok. I really wish you could have grabbed stangmans Arias for 1750$ they are exceptional, I think they sound like baby kantas. I’ve heard a lot of the focal line. The Aria is a giant killer speaker! I have them, and new Electra’s. The Electra’s being superior. If Sh$t hit the fan, I would be totally ok living with the Arias. They are super good! Not to mention easy to drive.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,124
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    kharp1 wrote: »
    I know you put a hard stop at $1500, but, just a few hundred more would get you a really nice pair of Usher MD2's. I know a guy that can hook that up.

    LOVE my MD2's. I don't see them leaving my house for a very long time. As a matter of fact, they may carry me out of the house before the speakers leave :#:D

    You can't trust Paul, he's a Texan that speaks Texan, but doesn't own a pair of boots...just sayin'

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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,021
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    You can't trust Paul, he's a Texan that speaks Texan, but doesn't own a pair of boots...just sayin'

    :D:D:p:pB)

    I ain't got no idear whut yer talkin bout.
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