4K Blu-ray. Any early adopters out there?
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I hate to burst your bubble BUT most everything is shot in 8k and down converted to 4k. 4k panels will be shorter lived than 720/1080 panels.
I don't think so. Even if everything was shot/mastered in 8k (very little it is at this point in time), there is no practical 8k distribution medium (news flash: broadcast TV is still 1080i). 4k streaming finally drove 4k TVs, and capturing live events beyond 4k (even if they could distribute it) is not cost effective. 8k won't see wide-spread adoption for many years.
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@StantonZ Actually 8K first appeared in Japan several years ago (as per usual they are way ahead) However you’re absolutely right about it not being ready for mass consumption for years
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With 4K, resolution is no longer an issue in most home system displays. Maybe an iMax screen in a theater might benefit from an 8K source but that is also debatable. The real issues with display technology are motion blur, contrast, getting deep black levels, accurate color rendition, and having a reliable display that does not have image retention issues. I suppose an 8K display may hit the market at some point, but it would mainly be for marketing reasons to get people to “upgrade” to something new. Even then, without major improvements in WiFi speed and bandwidth the display would be useless for most people who would not have a disc spinner any more.
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honestaquarian wrote: »Imagine my surprise when I saw this come up on the screen after I popped that CD into the Oppo UDP-205!
I fully expected the usual pic of the white album cover to come up and not the Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab pic
I think the Oppo connects to Gracenote’s service to look up metadata and cover art for an inserted CD. It will report back whatever someone last identified a disc as being. Sometimes it can be way off, or not find info at all.
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honestaquarian wrote: »Imagine my surprise when I saw this come up on the screen after I popped that CD into the Oppo UDP-205!
I fully expected the usual pic of the white album cover to come up and not the Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab pic
I think the Oppo connects to Gracenote’s service to look up metadata and cover art for an inserted CD. It will report back whatever someone last identified a disc as being. Sometimes it can be way off, or not find info at all.
Actually the UDP-203/5 doesn't do that anymore. The BDP-103/5 did and you would see the Gracenote tag beneath the cover art. The owners manual of the 205 does not say where it gets the cover art info from. It does not display the cover art for every CD though. -
Considering that many countries outside of the good ol'USA have download speeds in excess of 100 gigabytes and some pass 200 gigabytes I feel it will be quicker than most realize. Japan has blazing fast speeds that make our fastest look like 56k dial up.
@ptdogg2 No disrespect buddy, but you made a very common mistake there. A byte is 8 bits. Most do not know there is a difference between a bit and a byte and erroneously say megabytes or gigabytes instead of megabits. I gig is a billion bits and a meg is a million bits also. No one has speeds as fast as 100 to 200 gigabytes or even gigabits at this point in time outside of a laboratory. -
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@pitdogg2 Currently Comcast is offering 2gbps symmetrical speeds via Fiber Optic in different parts of the country.
I lot of providers large and small are offering 1gig speeds over copper using DOCSIS 3.1 technology. The only catch is that it's not symmetrical up and down. It is REALLY lopsided (meaning the download speeds might be 1 gbps, but the upload speeads are MUCH LOWER) I had it with RCN before I was finally able to get gig speed with Verizon FiOS fiber. FiOS is symmetrical.
So don't feel bad about the Japanese
Once I can save up enough to get a nice 4K OLED, I'll be able to stream 4K Netflix on my TiVo BOLT with no problems whatsoever. -
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Verizon is no longer building the FiOS out. They are only completing it in towns where it already is.
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Unfortunately because of a lot of things which have come together like a perfect storm, cable providers are just not making the money that they used to with cable TV anymore. Providing internet service for cord cutters seems to be the way to go, but wireless is apparently the wave of the future. 5G is coming late this year and next year with gigabit speeds promised.
So Verizon is building out their 5G wireless network and FiOS is no longer a priority. Fiber Optic is the best way to move all of that data and that is what all of the cell carriers are using to get the signals to the towers. However it is extremely expensive to run and splice fiber optic cable.
(just to clarify about the FiOS at my place. It has been here in Washington, D.C. for some years.However it was available on some streets and not on others. You could literally cross the street and walk right out of FiOS coverage. They finally got to my neighborhood in 2015 and I was EXCITED and ran around telling all of my neighbors it was coming. Then I ran smack into a brick wall, because I live in a small apartment building. I had to fight for two solid years to get it and finally did the day before my birthday in January of this year)
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honestaquarian wrote: »Verizon is no longer building the FiOS out. They are only completing it in towns where it already is.
Gotcha.
For some reason i had thought they abandoned it altogether.
Cablevision (Optimum) has had a stranglehold on FiOS where I live, and many other parts of LI. SO I am not surprised at all to hear that Verizon isn't fighting them anymore.
Now I hear that Optimum is running new fiber optic lines in certain test areas, they plan on offering download speeds up to 1 Gbps once that's complete, but for now they max out at 400 Mbps.
So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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Yes, fiber optic cables are expensive to repair, but usually the company doesn't pay for it, the person/company that broke it does. Most your phone cables are fiber optic, broke a few in my day. Very expensive to repair as each strand needs to be spliced back together in a special way....and there could be thousands of strands in a Fiber optic cable.
Cable companies, like comcast, are pricing themselves out of the market. If they are to rely only on internet services.....what do you think that does for the price of internet ?
5G, while it sounds nice, has some health related issues attached to it as well. You pick your poisons I guess. Pros and cons to everything.HT SYSTEM-
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I agree with yous guys completely. However this is a subject do another thread. This has little to do with 4K (unless your primary source of 4K content is streaming. In which case you need some good, high speed Wideband internet service-Wideband being speeds higher than about 20mbps. Anything lower is just Broadband)
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honestaquarian wrote: »@pitdogg2 Currently Comcast is offering 2gbps symmetrical speeds via Fiber Optic in different parts of the country.
I lot of providers large and small are offering 1gig speeds over copper using DOCSIS 3.1 technology. The only catch is that it's not symmetrical up and down. It is REALLY lopsided (meaning the download speeds might be 1 gbps, but the upload speeads are MUCH LOWER) I had it with RCN before I was finally able to get gig speed with Verizon FiOS fiber. FiOS is symmetrical.
So don't feel bad about the Japanese
Once I can save up enough to get a nice 4K OLED, I'll be able to stream 4K Netflix on my TiVo BOLT with no problems whatsoever.
Really. You started a thread 2.5 years ago that's still going strong, so what if people post about broadband/internet/streaming? Scrolling up a bit, I see a couple of your posts that deals with fiber optics, broadband, etc. but that's OK?
It's not like it's a For Sale thread that's getting all mucked up, but if you prefer it stays out of your sandbox, so be it.
So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?
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honestaquarian wrote: »@pitdogg2 Currently Comcast is offering 2gbps symmetrical speeds via Fiber Optic in different parts of the country.
I lot of providers large and small are offering 1gig speeds over copper using DOCSIS 3.1 technology. The only catch is that it's not symmetrical up and down. It is REALLY lopsided (meaning the download speeds might be 1 gbps, but the upload speeads are MUCH LOWER) I had it with RCN before I was finally able to get gig speed with Verizon FiOS fiber. FiOS is symmetrical.
So don't feel bad about the Japanese
Once I can save up enough to get a nice 4K OLED, I'll be able to stream 4K Netflix on my TiVo BOLT with no problems whatsoever.
Really. You started a thread 2.5 years ago that's still going strong, so what if people post about broadband/internet/streaming? Scrolling up a bit, I see a couple of your posts that deals with fiber optics, broadband, etc. but that's OK?
It's not like it's a For Sale thread that's getting all mucked up, but if you prefer it stays out of your sandbox, so be it.
Dude lighten up!!!
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Hey does anyone know if the audio only HDMI output on the Oppo UDP-205 get deactivated when you use the analog audio outputs??
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You could start a new thread instead of muckin up this fine thread
So you want to use both of the ess saber dacs?
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I wanted to compare the audio only HDMI output (which has the jitter reduction circuitry-that works quite well btw) to the analog outputs. Nothing wrong with having a little fun is there???? -
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Check the manual???
WHO DOES THAT?!?!?! -
One pair went to the Oppo UDP-205 4K combi player and one pair went to the Pioneer Elite DVL-91 Laserdisc combi player. Now that the playing field is level the audible differences between them on the analog outs isn’t as big as it used to be. The Oppo definitely wins out sounding smoother and more coherent. However the Pioneer is VERY CLOSE BEHIND IT In fact when switching a CD back and forth between the two players, sometimes it’s hard to hear the difference.
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My all time favorite track from this group (and the Porcaro family who anchored this group are from Connecticut my home state) ANYWAY on the Oppo Steve Lukather’s voice sounds a bit more three dimensional compared to the Pioneer. The drums have a bit more impact and have a bit more bass. The differences which I’m describing are not huge here and again the Pioneer is not at all embarrassed. On the Pioneer his vocals are a tad thinner sounding and brighter. -
On this the opening track of this disc there is a phase manipulated vocal sound effect which goes around the room in a circle and goes right through your head when listening to a pair of SDA’s properly set up. On the Oppo the sound effect is more of an actual circle ⭕️ compared to the Pioneer (which does go around the room and through your head, but the circle takes on a bit of “V” shape as it goes around the room)
ALL IN ALL FUN TO LISTEN TO!! -
I finally found this on DTS CD💿in 5.1 at a reasonable price. It sounds AMAZING on the Oppo! -
Bright is usually the word I would use to describe this CD 💿 overall. Now, while it CLEARLY was eq’d with some tipped up highs. It doesn’t sound so bright and unpleasant. I can hear more information coming through and it actually sounds good. You can definitely hear the presence peak eq’d into Gordon’s voice though!
