4K Blu-ray. Any early adopters out there?

StantonZ

...but still no Dolby Vision content (not that I was waiting for any) and no UHD announcements from Disney. Guess I won't be buying Rogue One yet (still waiting on TFA also); I want Atmos anyway!

honestaquarian

http://hometheaterreview.com/uhd-blu-ray-finishes-2016-strong-twice-reports/

honestaquarian

http://www.twice.com/news/blu-raydvd/discs-giving-4kuhd-delivery-real-shot-arm/64236

honestaquarian

http://hometheaterreview.com/dolby-vision-takes-center-stage-at-ces-2017/

honestaquarian

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/dtsx-hits
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tonyb

I should hope so Ken, otherwise I'd ask for my money back. Sammy's have a nice picture for sure.

honestaquarian

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

Toolfan66

honestaquarian wrote: »

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

Yep, as soon as it's released I'm buying it...

vmaxer

Is there any information on it anywhere?

honestaquarian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRAL-TV

Exactly ten years after this TV station became the first in the country to begin broadcasting HDTV. They have also become the first to broadcast 4K UHD TV last year.

honestaquarian

http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

COMING NEXT MONTH!

honestaquarian

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-announces-pricing-availability-4k-oled-tvs#h73CvMU4OzLRYBH4.97

honestaquarian

http://www.soundandvision.com/content/samsung-qled-tvs-arrive-uhd-blu-ray-player-follow#mY48wqrff4YoygRl.97

honestaquarian

Just got this e-mail from Sony

honestaquarian

Oppo sent me notification that the UDP-205 is available for pre order

honestaquarian

A lot of movies are already,but the intermediate,which is used for post production isn't 4k. So what you see depends on which movie...............

StantonZ

honestaquarian wrote: »

A lot of movies are already, but the intermediate, which is used for post production isn't 4k. So what you see depends on which movie..........

And even that can vary: I've seen some 2k DI's that look better than 4k DI's. However, over time "true" 4k DI's will become both the norm and the standard for high-quality.

pitdogg2

StantonZ wrote: »

honestaquarian wrote: »

A lot of movies are already, but the intermediate, which is used for post production isn't 4k. So what you see depends on which movie..........

And even that can vary: I've seen some 2k DI's that look better than 4k DI's. However, over time "true" 4k DI's will become both the norm and the standard for high-quality.

4k will not be around long. Most of the movies are being shot in higher resolution and down converted to 4k. 8k has dropped in Japan as of this year so i honestly do not see longevity here in the states.

StantonZ

pitdogg2 wrote: »

4k will not be around long. Most of the movies are being shot in higher resolution and down converted to 4k. 8k has dropped in Japan as of this year so i honestly do not see longevity here in the states.

You're kidding, right?
4k DI's still aren't common...broadcast 4k hasn't happened yet (limited to streaming)...commercially viable 8k displays are years away...and the bandwidth and storage required for broadcast 8k is a non-starter until/unless 4k becomes mainstream.
Japan had HD almost 10 years before it was mainstream here, so I wouldn't base anything on what they can "demo" at this time (even with accelerated development).
I'll probably be enjoying my current UHD/4k set-up until I retire (as much as 10 years away).

pitdogg2

Movies are shot in higher than 4k resolution now no i was not kidding.
I hope you're right but i bet not. Look how short it has gotten from 720p to 1080 to 4k it's picking up speed

StantonZ

pitdogg2 wrote: »

I hope you're right but i bet not. Look how short it has gotten from 720p to 1080 to 4k it's picking up speed

Now that's a good question...and here's a good answer:

• 720p TVs were first available in 1999 (I owned one...and yes, it was expensive...but lasted me over 15 years!) even though HD content would take a few years to really kick in
• 1080p (not 1080i) TVs were first available in 2005
• True 4k (2160p) TVs (with the proper HDMI ports/compatibility) were first available in 2015 (I own one...and yes, it was expensive...but definitely worth it!) and 4k content has started to come around thanks to streaming (which obviously wasn't available 15 years ago)

So, if we extrapolate from 1080p commercial availability, it would suggest 8k TVs (not a "demo") might arrive on the scene sometime between 2021 and 2025, allowing for some accelerated development.

But all this ignores the ultimate question, which is: can/will any of us be able to tell the difference between 4k and 8k in the home environment? Given that many still can't tell the difference between 1080p and 2160p (I can...barely...because I have a decent size TV and enjoy the addition of HDR/WCG), that could ultimately be the deciding factor.

honestaquarian

StantonZ wrote: »

pitdogg2 wrote: »

4k will not be around long. Most of the movies are being shot in higher resolution and down converted to 4k. 8k has dropped in Japan as of this year so i honestly do not see longevity here in the states.

You're kidding, right?
4k DI's still aren't common...broadcast 4k hasn't happened yet (limited to streaming)...commercially viable 8k displays are years away...and the bandwidth and storage required for broadcast 8k is a non-starter until/unless 4k becomes mainstream.
Japan had HD almost 10 years before it was mainstream here, so I wouldn't base anything on what they can "demo" at this time (even with accelerated development).
I'll probably be enjoying my current UHD/4k set-up until I retire (as much as 10 years away).

Just a heads up guys
There is a tv station in North Carolina broadcasting 4k right now. First in the country and they've been doing it since last year or the year before. Google it. This was also the very first station in America to broadcast 1080i.
Had fun with you all and thanks.
I'm gone

honestaquarian

I am LOVING my new Oppo UDP-205!!!! Oppo digital decided to slowly go out of bid’ness. So I rushed out and put one on layaway

honestaquarian

gudnoyez

Enjoy the 205, I've considered one but kept my 105D and got a Sony for 4k only duties. Keep us informed on the new toy, once it is up and running.

honestaquarian

Picture

gudnoyez wrote: »

Enjoy the 205, I've considered one but kept my 105D and got a Sony for 4k only duties. Keep us informed on the new toy, once it is up and running.

Thanks
I can’t comment yet on the 4K picture as that is the next and most expensive upgrade that I have yet to do. Sound-wise it is EXCELLENT! It plays everything that I throw at it and the High Definition picture with Blu-rays is also excellent. I’m still breaking it on and haven’t tried everything Yet. E

honestaquarian

I definitely noticed a BIG difference between the 205 and the 105 sound-wise because of the jitter reduction circuit. I compared it to my Pioneer Elite DVL-91and the Pioneer was the victor at first. The catch is that I was using the analog outputs on the Pioneer and the HDMI outputs on the Oppo. I then switched to the Analog outputs on the Oppo after a week of break in and it was more detailed. The pioneer sounded very similar and had more bass and was about 7 DB louder, but the Oppo clearly had more detail when the volume was matched. I had a non audiophile friend over who happened to be Chinese (and he didn't know that Oppo was a Chinese company) and he heard the same thing and even though he had trouble describing it.He hit the nail right on the head.

honestaquarian

I just discovered the volume control (variable output) on the unit came turned down a bit. So I turned it up to the top and now it matches the output of the Pioneer.

F1nut

honestaquarian wrote: »

I definitely noticed a BIG difference between the 205 and the 105 sound-wise because of the jitter reduction circuit. I compared it to my Pioneer Elite DVL-91and the Pioneer was the victor at first. The catch is that I was using the analog outputs on the Pioneer and the HDMI outputs on the Oppo. I then switched to the Analog outputs on the Oppo after a week of break in and it was more detailed. The pioneer sounded very similar and had more bass and was about 7 DB louder, but the Oppo clearly had more detail when the volume was matched. I had a non audiophile friend over who happened to be Chinese (and he didn't know that Oppo was a Chinese company) and he heard the same thing and even though he had trouble describing it.He hit the nail right on the head.

OPPO Digital is independently operated and headquartered in Menlo Park, CA. USA.

DarqueKnight

StantonZ wrote: »

But all this ignores the ultimate question, which is: can/will any of us be able to tell the difference between 4k and 8k in the home environment? Given that many still can't tell the difference between 1080p and 2160p (I can...barely...because I have a decent size TV and enjoy the addition of HDR/WCG), that could ultimately be the deciding factor.

In my case, it's not a matter of not being able to see a difference between 1080p and 2160p, it's a matter of the difference being so small that it's not worth the high investment costs in hardware and software. The "WOW" factor going from 2K to 4K just isn't there...at least not for me. Judging from what I read on this, and other, forums, the 4K wow factor isn't there for a lot of people.

The last time I was wowed by a television picture was the first time I saw a 1080p blu-ray displayed on a Pioneer Kuro plasma. This was during the summer of 2009.

I would like to go from my current 60" display to an 80" display...if there was something on the market that rivaled my Kuro plasma in holographic picture quality. As it stands now, I would be taking a big hit in picture quality to gain more screen area. It's not worth it to me.